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HarryFeltersnach

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Posted at: 12/3/02 11:43 AM

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if you think pot should be legal reply...and why it should be legal


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Taken from the Libertarian party website, http://www.lp.org


It's time to re-legalize drugs and let people take responsibility for themselves. Drug abuse is a tragedy and a sickness. Criminal laws only drive the problem underground and put money in the pockets of the criminal class. With drugs legal, compassionate people could do more to educate and rehabilitate drug users who seek help. Drugs should be legal. Individuals have the right to decide for themselves what to put in their bodies, so long as they take responsibility for their actions.


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Posted at: 12/3/02 01:11 PM

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I think peole should be able to do whatever they want to their body. I mean it is THEIR body, not the governments body


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Pot should be legal simply because it's too much trouble to police it. Jails are filled with pot offenders who haven't really done anything wrong and who serve overly long and manditory sentences. If it was legal it could be regulated not to mention you could tax the hell out of it.


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Posted at: 12/4/02 03:30 AM

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Pot should be legalized I am no longer a user but i can still take from personal experince that it's a LOT more dangerous to buy from dealers than if u had the chance to go to a govt run store (such as buying hard liqour is here in canada). I still think it's a filthy habit and no one should smoke anything. O and btw BlGDlCK123, your a fool so your telling me that a idiot teen who jsut got dumped should be able to go out and OD on E cause they wanted to feel happy???


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At 12/3/02 11:43 AM, Jonny_Fingerfuck wrote: if you think pot should be legal reply...and why it should be legal

hey my smoker buddy. i think it should be leagal since evryone does it,and plust the effect of marijuana are no where near as harmful as tobacco.

Well since you already know me and we know eachothers opinions i will just end this here

pot legalization


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At 12/7/02 02:02 PM, spazztastickid wrote:
At 12/3/02 11:43 AM, Jonny_Fingerfuck wrote: if you think pot should be legal reply...and why it should be legal
hey my smoker buddy. i think it should be leagal since evryone does it,and plust the effect of marijuana are no where near as harmful as tobacco.

Well since you already know me and we know eachothers opinions i will just end this here

Plus it is also not as harmful as alcohol. Alcohol can do whole lot more damage than weed can ever do. Have you ever heard of a guy who was high that lost control of his anger and kill someone while he was high? The only instances I can think of that someone that is high can kill someone if they're operating heavy or dangerous machinery while high and loses control of it.


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hey my smoker buddy. i think it should be leagal since evryone does it,and plust the effect of marijuana are no where near as harmful as tobacco.

took the words right outta my mouth.


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Why should make tobbaco illegal then make pot legal, Damnit!


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I don't think pot should be legalized.


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At 12/7/02 02:02 PM, spazztastickid wrote: hey my smoker buddy. i think it should be leagal since evryone does it,and plust the effect of marijuana are no where near as harmful as tobacco.

Well since you already know me and we know eachothers opinions i will just end this here

hmmmm.... right, We should legalize something because we already do something that bad. Or because everyone is doing it?

Shouldn't we be illegalizing or least attempting to illigalize tabacco? Instead of just using it as a scape goat to legalize other drugs? Wouldn't that make more sense. Its like going out and killing someone then deciding anything less harmful then killing people is ok because we've done worse.

And to the whole people's own body bullshit. What about parents? What if they decide to ruin there kids life with pot? Robert Downy Jr. grew up in a house where his parents smoked pot. Look out he turned out. What if he wasn't an actor. It obviously isn't just their bodies. Its society's job to look after its people. Illegalize alcohol, smoking, and pot.Then slowly over years drugs will stop plaguing our society.


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Posted at: 12/8/02 08:52 PM

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I'd first like to point out that marijuana has no permanent negative side-effects at all, and the worst temporary side effect is that very heavy users experience a temporary IQ drop of about 5 points, which fades if they stop using it. I'd also like to point out at this time that 5 points is very little. I've never done any kind of drugs or anything, and I took 3 IQ tests in the space of 3 years and the results varied by more than 10 points.

Pot should not be legal simply because tobacco and alcohol are, but because there is no reason for it to be illegal, and so much money is wasted in policing marijuana use (70% of drug arrests are for marijuana).

Alcohol and tobacco should be illegal because they cause damage to your body, and in the case of alcohol, can cause you to become violent. Marijuana on its own cannot do this, as a matter of fact, from the users I've known, they tend to be nicer people and easier to get along with if they are high.

For the good of society, marijuana should be legalized in place of tobacco and alcohol. So many people are of this belief nowadays, that I am certain it will be within the next 10-20 years.


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u call him a dictator when u call him an idiot mearly for posting what his opinion is, so your saying his opinion is wrong adn yours is right obviously u don't know what a dictator is and for the no harmful sideaffects theres still lunch cancer and the other cancesr that go along with it. The fact u can fry your brain if u depend on it to much (and don't BS me with thats impossible cause i got a friend in the hospital right now), theres also the 2nd hand smoke effects. I still belive it should be legalized but don't think it's still a safe thing to do if it was totaly safe it would ahve been legalized already since things like tobacco and alchoal are.


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What about high drivers? They'll kill people.

If we get rid of all drugs do you know how many lives could be saved?


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At 12/9/02 07:01 AM, EZ3 wrote: What about high drivers? They'll kill people.

If we get rid of all drugs do you know how many lives could be saved?

High Drivers would be a risk in a similar way as Drunk drivers, However if it is legalised and legislated then controls can be put on it in the same way as Alcohol, limits could be set and effective roadside tests could be devised.

Although in my experience High drivers tend to drive pretty slowly and safely anyway because they are well aware they aren't in full control, I know they shouldn't be driving at all but i'd rather be in a car with a stoned driver than a drunk one


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The state restricting how high the driver can be is insignificant. If we outlawed alcohol there would obviously be way less drunk drivers. Same goes with pot.


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and not only should they legalize pot...tobacco should be outlawed.I mean it kills how many..i think its over 400,000 people a year. thats ten times the amount of american troops lost in the vietnam war.


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Pot doesn't cause lung cancer. Tobacco is capable of causing lung cancer because there are microhairs on teh surface of the leaves that have a strong tendancy to capture radioactive elements in the air, which then remain mixed in the tobacco and are breathed in during smoking. Unlucky smokers can end up with high concentrations of radioactive materials in their lungs.

Garden variety smoke doesn't give you cancer, tobacco smoke is a unique case.

High driving, huh? Ok, here in Canada, pot is de-facto legal (at least in Toronto). A cop will ignore someone smoking pot here in 95% of cases. I've never heard of a single case ANYWHERE in the city where there was an accident because one of the drivers was high on pot. Not once. So obviously, your logic is wrong somewhere.


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Has anyone in the US seen the new anti-pot commercials?


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At 12/11/02 11:10 PM, freakydude101 wrote: taken from libertian site

Police arrest more people for marijuana than murder, rape, and robbery combined

Interesting point.

Building on that article, does anyone here think that a major reason for not legalizing marijuanna is because it's a drug that isn't easily taxed (and therefore the government doesn't get there cut)?

I mean you don't have to be a rocket scientist to grow the stuff in your own home. And it doesn't take that much space either. If you can grow tomatoes you can grow pot.

If you had commercial pot that was too expensive it would cause people to say fuck it and just grow there own or buy it from a friend. Maybe legalized pot might even cut into the profits of booze and cigarette companies. Who knows...


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Posted at: 12/14/02 12:09 PM

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It should be legalized.

Not only would the government save money on police enforcment. But they could tax the hell out of it. Think of how much money they would make. It could help with the national debt.


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At 12/14/02 12:09 PM, Askey18 wrote: It should be legalized.

Not only would the government save money on police enforcment. But they could tax the hell out of it. Think of how much money they would make. It could help with the national debt.

But you CAN'T tax it to hell or else people will:

a) grow it themselves
b) buy it from a private grower

This illegal substance could be very plentify in the future if it was legalized.


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At 12/16/02 03:21 AM, P-Chan wrote:
But you CAN'T tax it to hell or else people will:

a) grow it themselves
b) buy it from a private grower

This illegal substance could be very plentify in the future if it was legalized.

Not if its government regulated.


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if you think making pot leagal will make it less apealling, thus causing the numbers of users to drop, your stupid. countless millions of people only don't do it because it is ilegal/ they are afriad of getting caught. take that boundry away and user numbers will soar. pot should never be legal.


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No i do not feel it should be legalized because it will cause deaths from lack of judgement and driving while high and no matter how much you police it it will happen. Second the only reason that drugs like cigarettes and alchohol are still legal are that they have been with society for a long time and would be almost impossible to make illegal. This was tried in the the 30s and there was a massive uproar throughout america. The same would happen with pot it would integrate itself into society and never leave. So what if it can calm your nerves it will do harm with little good and we need to start getting ride of the problems we have instead of trying to weasil another drug for people to smoke up every damn minute.


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i think pot should be legal...not any other drugs lyke heroine...pot doesn't really have side effects that r that bad....sure, you may stumble ur words a bit...but i know someone whos a genius...and he's such a pot head....also, i know an all state athlete...whos no stranger to mary jane...and govt. spends so much tryin to get it out of our country....even tho theres no possible way to get rid of it, cuz someones bound to grow it somewhere....we'd save money then...i say if amsterdam can legalize it, we can too...


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pot should never be legal. i think the 18th ammendment was a great move, and its repeal was a terrible idea. pot was legal in this country a while ago, but once the user number got over 1,000,000, they made it illegal due to societal degredation. if they make it legal again, it will just as much of a problem as alchohol. sure there are responsible drinkers, and there are some responsible pot smokers, but that doesn't mean it's not a problem.


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Everyone I know who does pot is mental.
Usually related to pot..
Just listen to that Afroman song

Should be illegal
Cause like the people who REALLY REALLY wanna do it will get it done anyway..
Dont make it eaiser for people to experiment with it.


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At 12/20/02 10:57 AM, SPiNDLE_XL wrote: Everyone I know who does pot is mental.
Should be illegal
Cause like the people who REALLY REALLY wanna do it will get it done anyway..
Dont make it eaiser for people to experiment with it.

I have done chiba about 5 times, maybe once a month to loosen up, I'm not really mental. I think it should still be illegal, but I know it might good for you to puff once in a while


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At 12/20/02 12:09 AM, subliminalclock wrote: pot should never be legal. i think the 18th ammendment was a great move, and its repeal was a terrible idea. pot was legal in this country a while ago, but once the user number got over 1,000,000, they made it illegal due to societal degredation. if they make it legal again, it will just as much of a problem as alchohol. sure there are responsible drinkers, and there are some responsible pot smokers, but that doesn't mean it's not a problem.

The only problem with that is the fact that people are going to smoke weed no matter what the government tries to do. It is alot easier to grow pot in your backyard or even in your basement than it would be to make bootleg whiskey or moonshine. During Prohibition that's what happened. People said fuck you to the government and the temperance movement and made their own stuff at home. When Uncle Sam realized that nothing he could do would dissuade people from drinking and that he wasn't getting any money out of it anymore the government struck down Prohibition. It was all about the mighty dollar. Why not legalize the use of marijuana? Sell it in government appropiated shops. I conducted an informal poll of people I work with and almost every one of them said they'd rather ride with someone who had been smoking weed than someone who had been drinking.


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