Perception of thought

[Verg]

Has anyone stopped to wonder?
When you are thinking, you are aware of it. It is a perception.
If when you are thinking and you are aware that you are thinking, then, where does it stop?
There must be a starting point.
Thoughts don't obviously come from nowhere.
But I would be intrieged to find someone who has caught
the seed (before you become aware of it).
Meditation claims to transcend this, but I highly doubt this.
The deeper you go the closer you seem to get, but alas,
once your there, you become aware of it.
Ouch I'm getting a headache! HELP!

[MarijuanaClock]

Thoughts are triggered from what you see, smell, touch, and hear. All thoughts are stimulated by some outside input. Thats not to say all actions are, your body performs all maner of actions with out your conscience knowledge.

If you were completly isolated and did not have sight, smell, touch, and hearing. Well then you wouldn't even know you exist, and couldn't form thought.

[Spike-J-Wolfwood]

It was always my feeling with meditation that if you could transcend consciousness you would never really know it. You would snap back to reality feeling like no time has passed. Sorta makes looking for nirvana seem all in vain. The only time I can meditate is when I’m not thinking about it. That’s why I do all my best meditating while I’m drunk. Seriously though, I think MJClock has a point. Almost all consciousness dependant on externally stimuli. As is all life experience. If it were not for light traveling through your eyes, stimulating the optic nerve to send information through the optic chiasm, lateral geniculate nucleus of thalamus, midbrain, to the occipital lobe, your mind would never get this information. Then again how do you know if you really are reading this? Since the mind depends on electrical impulses to define the world the true mind can never directly experience anything and must trust the information sent to it. This makes it hard to prove that anything really exists outside of your own mind.Wait,......in that case, if you transcend consciousness.......do you stop being? Maybe that’s why it’s so hard, it’s a failsafe.

[MarijuanaClock]

At 12/3/02 03:24 AM, Spike_J_Wolfwood wrote: Since the mind depends on electrical impulses to define the world the true mind can never directly experience anything and must trust the information sent to it. This makes it hard to prove that anything really exists outside of your own mind.Wait,......in that case, if you transcend consciousness.......do you stop being? Maybe that’s why it’s so hard, it’s a failsafe.

No, for I also reciever input from you in forming my thought. You understood what I said, thus validating my thoughts. Just being able communicate shows us we really exist outside of our own minds. I think. haha.

[Spike-J-Wolfwood]

No, for I also reciever input from you in forming my thought. You understood what I said, thus validating my thoughts. Just being able communicate shows us we really exist outside of our own minds. I think. haha.

Wrap your head around this one. Do you know that I wrote that or is your mind telling you that I wrote it and you are responding to your own deeper thoughts. The mind is capable of creating scenario upon scenario ever exploring countless possible contingencies and outcomes. Even while the superficial mind is active the subconscious is at play. Or so it tells me.

[MarijuanaClock]

........ Damn. I think I'll put the joint down now.

Really thats interesting to think of, maybe our mind is creating some flase world, we could be different from everyoen else and not even realize it.