A Madness Combat Dvd?

[Krinkels]

Okay, so I'm just wondering, and I thought I'd ask the good folks of Newgrounds, about making a Madness DVD. But, I've only got 5 episodes. How many would I need for a Madness DVD to be marketable? And how much would you good folks be willing to pay for it?

This is a shot in the dark. There seems to be a positive regard for the Madness, but I'm trying to gauge it.

[maddenbadass82]

im not sure how all that works, but just in case make a few more, or maybe one long one and see how that turns out

[Frostbreath]

Hundreds. Which means you can never stop produce them.

HAHAHA!

[Crashman]

Well if you have bonus stuff too like how you made it as well that might help make it "longer" if you want, but shoot for at least two more episodes. For price, probably $20-$30.

[Miikro]

It really would depend on how long said episodes are... And how long you plan the overall storyarc to be. Does it have a definitive end in your mind? Or are you just going to keep pumping out new ones until you can't milk it anymore?

If it has an actual end, I'd shoot for the whole shebang on a disc.

[Krinkels]

No end in mind, the story is too scattered. Just more meyhem.

[OpenSource-247]

At 11/10/05 02:14 AM, Krinkels wrote: Okay, so I'm just wondering, and I thought I'd ask the good folks of Newgrounds, about making a Madness DVD.

0.o Holy crap, it's Krinkels himself! =D
I could rave and rant (and will if left unchecked) about how great you are, but i'm sure you get more than enough of that.

As for a Madness DVD, that is an awesome idea, i'd buy one with even the stuff you've already released, really. I was actually just playing Madness Interactive for the first time in awhile today when my internet went out, I really do love that game.

I was just deciding whether or not to lurk the boards a bit more or watch Madness again when I saw this thread...then your name beside it...and I really could not believe it.

Gah, I have so many questions I feel bad asking any of them, so i'll try and control myself.

You rule, though. Seriously.

[Lidov]

Well, considering that fact that all of your current episodes are on NG, i am no sure I would spare a dollar to buy the DVD, because I can get all the episodes free. There aren't also enough episodes tp make a DVD yet.
i would suggest you to do the following:
1) Improve your current movies and make them in the highest quality you can, improve every single detail. Don't make the first episode's zombies look different than the new zombies for example.
2) Make other episodes, at least five new ones and don't submit them fully to NG, because then, poeple would eatch it here only. However, if you would like to arrouse more interest, you can submit an intro to the new episodes you created.
3) I would say that if there are enough episodes there to fill at least an 80 monutes, I would be willing to pay 15 dollars, even 20 if it is more.
But that is just what I would do, you don't have to follow my advice.

[OpenSource-247]

I guess the main question is, how many episodes do you want to release before you feel you have enough to put into a Season 1 DVD? Or are you thinking of releasing just one DVD to span the entire series? I would assume it's rather costly and it should probably have enough to satisfy the demand you'll no doubt get from the NG fanbase, i'm not sure how many people outside Newgrounds know of Madness, (I personally refer everyone I know to the series) so maybe you could get away with releasing the DVD after a few more episodes?

[Miikro]

At 11/10/05 02:38 AM, Krinkels wrote: No end in mind, the story is too scattered. Just more meyhem.

In that case, how long is the average episode? I've watched the series but it's been awhile, and I don't feel like killing my dialup.

[OpenSource-247]

At 11/10/05 02:44 AM, Lidov wrote: Well, considering that fact that all of your current episodes are on NG, i am no sure I would spare a dollar to buy the DVD, because I can get all the episodes free. There aren't also enough episodes tp make a DVD yet.
i would suggest you to do the following:
1) Improve your current movies and make them in the highest quality you can, improve every single detail. Don't make the first episode's zombies look different than the new zombies for example.

I totally agree with the zombie idea...definetly look into refining the series a bit, and maybe (OMG brainstorm!) include redone episodes using your current skill, as i'm sure there's stuff you might have wanted to do in earlier episodes that you can now do, in the DVD as inscentive to buy it!

2) Make other episodes, at least five new ones and don't submit them fully to NG, because then, poeple would eatch it here only. However, if you would like to arrouse more interest, you can submit an intro to the new episodes you created.

I still think you should continue to submit your movies in full to Newgrounds, no matter what happens. I suspect you have your largest (maybe only, again I don't know just how popular you are yet) fanbase, and most chance of making sales.

3) I would say that if there are enough episodes there to fill at least an 80 monutes, I would be willing to pay 15 dollars, even 20 if it is more.
But that is just what I would do, you don't have to follow my advice.

All in all, I think just to have a compilation of the Madness episodes to show others and watch myself would be great, and i'd pay any reasonable price, really. Probably no more than $20 because that would be out of my price range, but around $10 per DVD would be fair if you included some new episodes and redone versions of the older ones.

[Lidov]

At 11/10/05 02:51 AM, RPGoddess wrote: I still think you should continue to submit your movies in full to Newgrounds, no matter what happens. I suspect you have your largest (maybe only, again I don't know just how popular you are yet) fanbase, and most chance of making sales.

Well, why would I spend my money if I can see his movies on NG freely, as much as i want, without spending a dime? Maybe he should redo his episodes with his current skills and resubmit them after he is done making them again. However, I am not sure i am going to buy it if he is going to submit the new episodes, unless it is very cheap, but I am not sure that what he wants... Anyway, submitting it to NG before making a DVD is like showing a movie on TV and only after that making a DVD for it. You would always be able to get a tape which someone recorded instead of buying a DVD in a lot more money...

[Eskimoshmo]

thnx tht wd b nce.

But yeah, I agree, 5 episodes isn't enough.

[OpenSource-247]

At 11/10/05 02:59 AM, Lidov wrote:

At 11/10/05 02:51 AM, RPGoddess wrote: I still think you should continue to submit your movies in full to Newgrounds, no matter what happens. I suspect you have your largest (maybe only, again I don't know just how popular you are yet) fanbase, and most chance of making sales.

Well, why would I spend my money if I can see his movies on NG freely, as much as i want, without spending a dime? Maybe he should redo his episodes with his current skills and resubmit them after he is done making them again. However, I am not sure i am going to buy it if he is going to submit the new episodes, unless it is very cheap, but I am not sure that what he wants... Anyway, submitting it to NG before making a DVD is like showing a movie on TV and only after that making a DVD for it. You would always be able to get a tape which someone recorded instead of buying a DVD in a lot more money...

I see what you're saying, the average potential customer probably does think that way, so I get your point entirely, and I'm definetly speaking from the perspective of a long-time fan of his work, if it wasn't already obvious (I'm watching the series beginning to end again as this thread continues, just finished the first) so I would buy the DVD anyways if I had the money to spend on it.

Besides, I think Krinkels needs to stay loyal to his fans here on Newgrounds like they have to him...he makes the Madness and has the ultimate say, but he'd be just another Flash animator no matter how good he makes without Newgrounds itself to show his movies and the users and fans to vote and review and generally spread the word, so it's only fair that his audience still recieves what they love, they will still support him as they have i'm sure.

Really, even if he gave the DVD away he'd only be increasing his popularity, it's not like he gets paid to submit to Newgrounds (I don't think anyways) so he's got nothing to lose by doing what he already does and continuing to submit his stuff to Newgrounds. We'll still watch!

[Siiike]

I would actually buy a Madness DVD, I'd pay 15 bucks for 45 minutes, if they were some damn fine minutes of rewatchable destruction. If it was shorter it would require some filler, like a making of film or other random shit. I would be very likely to buy if it was more than the current movies on a disc.

[Rebel666]

If you add Marshmellow Madness as an extra that would be cool. And maybe a longer version of the music video. As for the Madness itself, definately have a few more but don't share them completely on NG because anyone wouldn't buy anything if they can find it for free. I know you hate trailers and such but it would seem necessary.

[Nicko9y]

I seriously would.
Ma by about 10 cartoons would warrant a 20$ price
I would buy 5 cartoons for 10$.

[j00bie]

im sure if you made a madness dvd, tom would gladly advertise it in a news post like he did for knox's.

as for how much i'd be willing to pay... well, it depends on how good it is :o)

[Jizwh0r]

Wait till you're done with #8 at least, and maybe put some stuff in between each episode.

[DeadPixels]

I'd say 12, but that's loads! Go with however many you feel.. because it is yours..
I'd pay £10 - £14 for a Madness DVD. I'm trying to collect every Newgrounds featured DVD...

[Virtus]

First of all you'd have six right?:

MARSH-MELLOW-MADNESS

MADNESS COMBAT

MADNESS REDEEMER

MADNESS AVENGER

MADNESS APOTHEOSIS

and MADNESS DEPREDATION

Plus all of the fan made flash like:

Star Wars Madness Request

The Maximum Ninja Trilogy

and a crap load of parodies! So, you could easily make a box-set DVD with all of that stuff on there.

[Andersson]

At 11/10/05 02:14 AM, Krinkels wrote: Okay, so I'm just wondering, and I thought I'd ask the good folks of Newgrounds, about making a Madness DVD.
But, I've only got 5 episodes. How many would I need for a Madness DVD to be marketable? And how much would you good folks be willing to pay for it?

Five episodes is marketable if it cost like 10 bucks to buy it. The serie is great so many people would like it. =)

But seriously, if I were you, I would start selling the "Madness Combat" serie on DVD when there's an end on it all. Maybe make a sixth episode to end the story?

And then possibly make other "Madness Combat" movies about another character or about Hank's background and so on.

On a side note, I believe you will know when you have enough episodes to make a DVD. =)

[CUCKA-DUDE]

What will he look like next? A brain in a jar?

[asdfrasdfg]

7 episodes, two of which can only be seen on the dvd. For extras include things like marshmallow madness and the music video. Play the music video song for the menus. Charge people 20 bucks a copy.

Include the game, if you can, too.

[Lucozadedude]

i'd pay a good £20 (yep, English Pound Sterling) for a DVD box set with about 6-8 eps on.

[STEM]

make 5 more, and you have yourself a buyer :)

[TheAbominableMatt]

If you have episodes that are only on the dvd people will buy it.

[AmberAffliction]

I would never buy such DVD, it is not plausible for you to meet my standards.

[Krinkels]

At 11/10/05 06:43 PM, Sie7e wrote: I would never buy such DVD, it is not plausible for you to meet my standards.

You make me cry. ooooooHooooOVoooooBooohooooo..... *sob*

[Tim7]

Good Idea I'd probably try to buy it :\