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Bush Outlines $7.1B Flu-Fighting Strategy
By LAURAN NEERGAARD, AP Medical Writer
2 hours ago

WASHINGTON - President Bush outlined a $7.1 billion strategy Tuesday to prepare for the danger of a pandemic influenza outbreak, saying he wanted to stockpile enough vaccine to protect 20 million Americans against the current strain of bird flu.

The president also said the United States must approve liability protection for the makers of lifesaving vaccines. He said the number of American vaccine manufacturers has plummeted because the industry has been hit with a flood of lawsuits.

Bush said no one knows when or where a deadly strain of flu will strike but "at some point we are likely to face another pandemic."

The president, in a speech at the National Institutes of Health, said the United States must be prepared to detect outbreaks anywhere in the world, stockpile vaccines and anti-viral drugs and be ready to respond at the federal, state and local levels in the event a pandemic reaches the United States.

Bush outlined a strategy that would cost $7.1 billion including:

_$1.2 billion for the government to buy enough doses of the vaccine against the current strain of bird flu to protect 20 million Americans; the administration wants to have sufficient vaccine for front-line emergency personnel and at-risk populations, including military personnel;

_$1 billion to stockpile more anti-viral drugs that lessen the severity of the flu symptoms;

_$2.8 billion to speed the development of vaccines as new strains emerge, a process that now takes months;

_$583 million for states and local governments to prepare emergency plans to respond to an outbreak.

Bush said a pandemic flu would be far more serious than the seasonal flu that makes hundreds of thousands of people sick ever year and sends people to their doctors for a flu shot. "I had mine," Bush said. Unlike seasonal flu, pandemic flu can kill people who are young and healthy as well as those who are frail and sick, he said.

In asking Congress for money to buy vaccine, Bush said the vaccine "would not be a perfect match to the pandemic flu because the pandemic strain would probably differ somewhat from the avian flu virus it grew from. But a vaccine against the current avian flu virus would likely offer some protection against a pandemic strain and possibly save many lives in the first critical months of an outbreak."

He also said the United States was increasing stockpiles of antiviral drugs, such as Tamiflu and Relenza. Such drugs cannot prevent people from catching the flu, but they can reduce the severity of the illness when taken within 48 hours of getting sick, he said.

"At this moment there is no pandemic influenza in the United States or the world, but if history is our guide there's reason to be concerned," Bush said. "In the last century, our country and the world have been hit by three influenza pandemics, and viruses from birds contributed to all of them."

He pointed out that the 1918 pandemic killed over a half million Americans and more than 20 million people across the globe. "One-third of the U.S. population was infected, and life expectancy in our country was reduced by 13 years.

"The 1918 pandemic was followed by pandemics in 1957 and 1968, which killed tens of thousands of Americans and millions across the world," Bush said.

Bird flu has been documented in Asia and has spread to Europe but has not reached the United States, the president said. "Our country has been given fair warning of this danger to our homeland and time to prepare," he said.

Bush said the cornerstone of his strategy was to develop new technologies to produce new vaccines quickly. "If a pandemic strikes, our country must have a surge capacity in place that will allow us to bring a new vaccine online quickly and manufacture enough to immunize every American against the pandemic strain," Bush said.

The principal goal of Bush's plan, Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt said, "is the capacity for every American to have a vaccine in the case of a pandemic, no matter what the virus is." "There is no reason to believe that in the next day or two or week or month that that's going to occur," Leavitt said on CBS's "The Early Show." But he added that "we do need to be ready in case it begins to mutate into a human transmissable disease."

Pandemics strike when the easy-to-mutate influenza virus shifts to a strain that people have never experienced before, something that has happened three times in the last century. While it is impossible to say when the next super-flu will strike, concern is growing that the bird flu strain known as H5N1 could trigger one if it mutates to start spreading easily among people. Since 2003, at least 62 people in Southeast Asia have died from H5N1; most regularly handled poultry.

The nation's strategy starts with attempting to spot an outbreak abroad early and working to contain it before it reaches the United States.

Today, most of the world's vaccine against regular winter flu, including much of that used by Americans each flu season, is manufactured in factories in Britain and Europe.

The government already has ordered $162.5 million worth of vaccine to be made and stockpiled against the Asian bird flu, more than half to be made in a U.S. factory.

But the administration plan, to be released in more detail on Wednesday, calls for more than stockpiling shots. It will stress a new method of manufacturing flu vaccines _ growing the virus to make them in easy-to-handle cell cultures instead of today's cumbersome process that uses millions of chicken eggs _ as well as incentives for new U.S.-based vaccine factories to open.

Such steps will take several years to implement, but the hope is that eventually they could allow production of enough vaccine to go around within six months of a pandemic's start.

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Associated Press Writer Nedra Pickler contributed to this report.

Bush was later seen saying to Cheney "Thank God money grows on trees."

Thank God for fiscal irresponsibility!

And I bet Bush is just eating his heart out. What a way to steal the show with the scandals going around, like Clinton did with his impromptu bombings Afghanistan and Iraq during his trials. What a sly litte devil Bush is.

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On the bright side, I doubt it will actually happen..

.. Wait.. Where else would that $7.1 billion be put?

.. shit. Star Wars.

The one thing force produces is resistance.

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At 11/1/05 01:24 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:
And I bet Bush is just eating his heart out. What a way to steal the show with the scandals going around, like Clinton did with his impromptu bombings Afghanistan and Iraq during his trials.

At least Clinton didn't bomb any civilians.


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At 11/1/05 01:45 PM, Monoceros wrote: At least Clinton didn't bomb any civilians.

Neither did Bush. Neither did FDR. Neither did Woodrow Wilson. Neither did LBJ.

What kind of retarted point is that?

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At 11/1/05 01:45 PM, Monoceros wrote:
At least Clinton didn't bomb any civilians.

At least Bush went after Bin Laden after a terrorist attack unlike clinton, who had the chance to assassinate Bin Laden multiple times but ignored each one.


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At 11/1/05 01:45 PM, Monoceros wrote: At least Clinton didn't bomb any civilians.

*pfft*

Kosovo, Bosnia, etc.?

So often times it happens, that we live our lives in chains, and we never even know we had the key...

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Although it may seem like an extreme amount, there is no other way you can respond to a possible pandemic. There was a special on this on the HIstory Channel, which should show what the worst case outcome can be.


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That whole article translates to "BOO, BE AFRAID, YOU'RE GONNA DIE! FOCUS ON THE BIRDS INSTEAD OF THE BULLSHIT SURROUNDING ME!"

Bird flu is just another disease blown out of proportion, it's no deadlier than West Nile or Monkey Pox.


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don't flu strands change too fast for there to be a truly effective countermeasure? Isn't it something like once a year the've become immune to whatever antibiotics we've been using them? Besides, 7.1 billion that we don't have, and who's stupid enough to lend us that much money?


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At 11/1/05 10:29 PM, afterdeath wrote: Besides, 7.1 billion that we don't have, and who's stupid enough to lend us that much money?

The people that are "stupid" enough to lend us the money are the ones growing nice and fat from the interest the United States has been paying them.


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At 11/1/05 09:30 PM, IllustriousPotentate wrote:
At 11/1/05 01:45 PM, Monoceros wrote: At least Clinton didn't bomb any civilians.
*pfft*

Kosovo, Bosnia, etc.?

On the eve of the sex scandel.

It is funny how Clinton and Bush can act alike, yet because of the political views people hold, people "forget" how "their" president fucked up.


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At 11/1/05 10:24 PM, Redbob86 wrote: That whole article translates to "BOO, BE AFRAID, YOU'RE GONNA DIE! FOCUS ON THE BIRDS INSTEAD OF THE BULLSHIT SURROUNDING ME!"

Bird flu is just another disease blown out of proportion, it's no deadlier than West Nile or Monkey Pox.

*Sigh*

Sorry for the double post, but the death rate for people who contracted the disease is astoundingly high. Plus, with any type of flu, it can mutate to be contracted from human to human. I think that we are in for a crisis if something bad happens, just because most of the pharmiceutical companies are based in Europe. If the shit hits the fan, and a pandemic hits, don't expect Europe to be giving up its supply of its antibiotics.


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At 11/1/05 01:45 PM, Monoceros wrote: At least Clinton didn't bomb any civilians.

Are you fucking kidding? At least bush's plans were targeted sites. Seems like any military action clinton took was a damn carpet bombing, plenty of civilians died during those I'd bet more then have died during the whole squable we've been in thanks to bush, but people didn't say a damn thing because he was clinton and no americans died.


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Clinton bombing civilians. I guess if we are going to generally blame the administrations for everything that happened.

Cant forget the bombing of the Chinese embassy during the Kosovo bombings. That was kinda a "Oh shit" move.

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Interesting... but I'm curious, how much money does Bush put foward to fund Aids and Cancer research?


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At 11/2/05 05:44 AM, EnragedSephiroth wrote: Interesting... but I'm curious, how much money does Bush put foward to fund Aids and Cancer research?

I hadn't even thought of that so I looked it up.

http://www.futurepun..archives/002614.html

Under the president's request, the budget of the National Institutes of Health, which doubled from 1998 to 2003, would rise by 0.7 percent, to $28.7 billion next year. That is much less than what would be needed to keep pace with the costs of biomedical research, which are rising more than 3.5 percent a year.

http://www.whitehous..3/09/20030901-2.html

My Administration remains committed to supporting research efforts to help find a cure for ovarian cancer. My fiscal year 2004 budget proposal includes more than $5.6 billion for cancer research at the National Institutes of Health. This investment will lead to a better understanding of ovarian cancer and greater hope for women who suffer from this disease. Through education and continued research, we can win the fight against ovarian cancer and save the lives of thousands of American women.

Looks like 5.6 billion in 2004.

My mom just passed away from ovarian cancer October 19th. So yeah, that's a tough thing to know right now.


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At 11/2/05 05:44 AM, EnragedSephiroth wrote: Interesting... but I'm curious, how much money does Bush put foward to fund Aids and Cancer research?
At 11/2/05 07:33 AM, Phantasia wrote: I hadn't even thought of that so I looked it up.

good researching Phantasia (..for a minute there i thought i was part of a community where we all pitched in togeather)

My mom..

jeez, my condolences.

At 11/1/05 01:24 PM, FAB0L0US wrote: Bush Outlines $7.1B Flu-Fighting Strategy

"Our country has been given fair warning of this danger to our homeland and time to prepare," Bush said.

War on Birds.. now there's a war America can win dammit!!

**imagines wall of duck hunters along Canadian border**


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well bird flu is only a threat IF and i repeat IF it mutates.......i wonder if all the panic about it killed more people than the bird flu would have


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jeez that much? holy shit...


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At 11/2/05 01:13 PM, -BuRnBoY- wrote: jeez that much? holy shit...

There's a lot of birds out there.

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At 11/1/05 09:26 PM, TimeFrame wrote:
At 11/1/05 01:45 PM, Monoceros wrote:
At least Clinton didn't bomb any civilians.
At least Bush went after Bin Laden after a terrorist attack unlike clinton, who had the chance to assassinate Bin Laden multiple times but ignored each one.

You actually believe that story? You actually believe that the Sudanese government (or whatever) offered up Osama bin Laden to Clinton multiple times and yet Clinton refused them? That's like saying that the Germans offered up Adolf Hitler during the 1936 Summer Olympics. All we had to do was have Jesse Owens run up to Hitler and strangle him to death.


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At 11/1/05 08:21 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:
At 11/1/05 01:45 PM, Monoceros wrote: At least Clinton didn't bomb any civilians.
Neither did Bush.

False.

Neither did FDR.

False.

Neither did Woodrow Wilson.

True.

Neither did LBJ.

False.


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At 11/1/05 08:21 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:
At 11/1/05 01:45 PM, Monoceros wrote: At least Clinton didn't bomb any civilians.

Kosavo, serbia, bosnia, his air raids on bagdad.....

Neither did Bush.

this is a joke right?afghanistan, iraq...

Neither did FDR.

Hiroshima anyone?

False.

Neither did Woodrow Wilson.

actually cant find a bad word said about the guy, seems like a nice bloke


Neither did LBJ.

so he sent the cluster bombs on holiday to vietman?


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You people are son dense.

Clinton didnt bomb any civilians. FDR didnt. Truman didnt.

You cannot personally blame the President for someone fucking up and bombing an unintended target.

And no, I still consider Hiroshima and Nagasaki completly a military action. You fight a total war, you get a total war.

They had their chance to surrendur, they passed on it.

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At 11/2/05 01:07 PM, Jinzoa wrote: well bird flu is only a threat IF and i repeat IF it mutates.......i wonder if all the panic about it killed more people than the bird flu would have

How will a panic about the flu kill anyone?


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Maybe Bush should have focused that money on disaster victims and further research on the virus. They could probably find something on it that would disable the virus, rendering it completely harmless BEFORE it actually transfers to us.


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Shit man our goverment pisses away 8bill a day. I'm glad to see that were at least sending a day's worth of money the flu's way.


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Being in the military, I get all kinds of vaccinations. Flu, small-pox, typhoid, the Heps, ANTHRAX too.

That Anthrax one sucks the most. It burns like a mother after they inject it into your arm, then the area gets rock hard, sore, and swollen. THAT one sucks.

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