this has go to stop !

[SheffieldWednesday]

Fraudsters who trick people into giving them thier credit card number is bad enough until THIS !
on google

www.google.co.uk
i typed in Cheats For Thief (thief is a game)
and the first thing that came up was HOW TO COMMIT CREDIT CARD FRAUD
i did not say anything about Credit cards or fraud

Our "internet Police" Should Stop theese sites that was like 2 years ago and it was that easy

also whats scary is that youm can type something innocent in and get a PORN website. and if i can find it easy surely the internet Police should find this easy

[sosjulian]

At 10/29/05 05:41 PM, SheffieldWednesday wrote: also whats scary is that youm can type something innocent in and get a PORN website. and if i can find it easy surely the internet Police should find this easy

umm, that's not illegal...

[SheffieldWednesday]

it is not illigal i know that but the point i am trying to get across is that younger children EG around the age of 8 or 9 will be able to acess all this Hardcore adult matierial

[RedSkunk]

Your threads have to stop.

[Maus]

At 10/29/05 05:47 PM, SheffieldWednesday wrote: younger children EG around the age of 8 or 9 will be able to acess all this Hardcore adult matierial

More reason for parental supervision on the internet. The internet is not a babysitter.

[sosjulian]

More reason for parental supervision on the internet. The internet is not a babysitter.

site filterers also work...

[Maus]

At 10/29/05 05:52 PM, sosjulian wrote: site filterers also work...

Not always.

Seriously, with kids that age, you have to be stupid to let them surf the net unsupervised.

[Blackhawkdown]

While sitefilters don't always work they do help to limit what a kid can access, if the kid isn't smart enough to bypass them.

But the filters are no subsitute for good parenting. The parents should supervise they're kids, keep the computer in a centralized area of the house, little things to watch over what the kid is doing.

"Internet police" that's a good one. Except for the whole breaking of the first admendment, and the whole impossibility of it.

[Reverend-Kyle]

At 10/29/05 05:47 PM, SheffieldWednesday wrote: it is not illigal i know that but the point i am trying to get across is that younger children EG around the age of 8 or 9 will be able to acess all this Hardcore adult matierial

When does it become alright to access this hardcore adult material?

[RedSkunk]

At 10/29/05 07:00 PM, ohp-kyle wrote: When does it become alright to access this hardcore adult material?

18 in the civilized world. In some of the more backwards areas, children mature quicker, so they can watch (or participate!) earlier.

[IllustriousPotentate]

ROFL! The internet police!

Seriously, if someone commits credit card fraud using that information, then the authorities that have jurisdiction over the area in which the fraud took place can take legal action against the perveyor of that information for aiding and abetting criminal activity.

Ultimately, it is the users responsibility, not the "internet police" (LOL), not websites, not government, not ISPs, etc. to monitor what is on their computer.

A person who has a subscription to pornographic paid TV channels is responsible, not the cable company, not the channel itself, for the people that view that in his or her home. The same situation applies to the internet.

[muxxor]

Yeah, last time I checked, that was all allowed with the First Amendment.

You can't say "Freedom of Speech, unless some kiddies might be able to see something they're not supposed"

[MisterDurando]

The Internet and television arent babysitters. Neither are the parental controls you can put on them. Kids are smarter than you think they can find away around it for whatever reason they feel is necessary.

[The-Deadly-Spoon]

it is scary you can find porn without looking for it?!

You know what's scary? The fact that you are more concerned with porn on the interenet than.. well.. just anything else that might have prompted you to start a thread on the politics board.
WTF?!

[Maus]

At 10/29/05 09:12 PM, muxxor wrote: Yeah, last time I checked, that was all allowed with the First Amendment.

You can't say "Freedom of Speech, unless some kiddies might be able to see something they're not supposed"

The Bill of Rights does not apply to the internet.

[Blackhawkdown]

At 10/29/05 10:14 PM, Maus wrote:

At 10/29/05 09:12 PM, muxxor wrote:

The Bill of Rights does not apply to the internet.

I'm not to sure about that. Didn't the ACLU defened the NAMBLA website by saying they had a constitionial right. Everything I've heard, says that the Bill of Rights does apply to the internet.

[Kla-Kla]

Credit Card Fraud is theivery. Theif's commit Theivery. fucking get it?

[Maus]

At 10/30/05 01:29 AM, Blackhawkdown wrote: I'm not to sure about that. Didn't the ACLU defened the NAMBLA website by saying they had a constitionial right. Everything I've heard, says that the Bill of Rights does apply to the internet.

Even sites located in different countries? You do realise that is how spam email (which is illegal) still exists. They base operations where the government doesn't care, like China.

The Bill of Rights only applies to sites located in the U.S., and even then can be filtered completely if a different country's government decides they don't want their people seeing it, like China.

:o
:o
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[cram320]

the internet is a messed up place

[TheMartyr18]

I kinda have a question... why is it wrong for minors, specifically teens, to see porn? Not saying they should be able to, but I was pissed about it before I turned 18.....

[Reverend-Kyle]

At 10/29/05 07:14 PM, red_skunk wrote:

At 10/29/05 07:00 PM, ohp-kyle wrote: When does it become alright to access this hardcore adult material?

18 in the civilized world. In some of the more backwards areas, children mature quicker, so they can watch (or participate!) earlier.

Yes, but this kid is saying 8- or 9-year olds, and he is only 13 according to his profile. I think he's being a hypocrite. >:(

(But who isn't? :/)

[hellsgift]

what the hell are you people talking about? why are you not talking about important issuse like the enviormental crisis or how bush is destroying everything that this country stands for?

[LadyGrace]

You probably need to specify your search like "thief walkthrough" or "thief 3 deadly shadows" or something like that. Good game choice by the way. But I prefer Thief 2 The Metal Age better.

[SilentB1ade]

Who cares?

[Maus]

I'm surprised no-one has brought up the fact that shock sites (like rotten or ogrish) are more detrimental than most pornography. If anything, it's making us regress into a time when such images of gore and atrocity don't make a child even wince. I was in my mid twenties when I saw things like goatse for the first time, and to be perfectly honest, it shocked me tremendously. Now, some years later, it doen't even elicit a reaction, let alone faze me. It troubles me that kids as young as 11 and 12 are seeing things like this, often without their parents even realising it. Is parenting as we know it in need of an overhaul?

At 10/30/05 04:56 PM, hellsgift wrote: what the hell are you people talking about? why are you not talking about important issuse like the enviormental crisis or how bush is destroying everything that this country stands for?

Different threads for those.

At 10/30/05 05:05 PM, SilentB1ade wrote: Who cares?

Read the rules during your one day vacation.

[IllustriousPotentate]

At 10/30/05 06:36 PM, Maus wrote: I'm surprised no-one has brought up the fact that shock sites (like rotten or ogrish) are more detrimental than most pornography. If anything, it's making us regress into a time when such images of gore and atrocity don't make a child even wince. I was in my mid twenties when I saw things like goatse for the first time, and to be perfectly honest, it shocked me tremendously. Now, some years later, it doen't even elicit a reaction, let alone faze me. It troubles me that kids as young as 11 and 12 are seeing things like this, often without their parents even realising it. Is parenting as we know it in need of an overhaul?

Actually, some of the stuff on ogrish and rotten can have redeeming value. I know I drive much more carefully and attentively now that I've seen all those pictures of car crashes and people laying scrunched up in a car with their brains splattered on the pavement. They can serve as a hard knocks deterrent--don't play with fireworks or guns, don't drive a motorcycle without a helmet, wear your safety belt, wear a hard hart, etc. While it may be too shocking for yungins, I would have no problem with say, a 13 or 14 year old.

Other shock sites, like goatse, lemon party, tubgirl, etc., etc. could technically be considered pornography.

While parents should be a whole lot more active in monitoring their children's usage of the internet, let's face it, especially with both parents often working outside the home to pay the bills, it's nearly impossible to stand guard over children's internet use 24/7.

The solution? Get rid of the internet access in one's home. Schools and public libraries offer safe, filtered internet access that is more secure and foolproof than many home filters. If internet access is needed by parents for work, then keep access on a laptop, that the parent can take with them to work, when they wouldn't be able to monitor their children's activities on it.

[Blackhawkdown]

At 10/30/05 08:05 PM, IllustriousPotentate wrote:

At 10/30/05 06:36 PM, Maus wrote:

While parents should be a whole lot more active in monitoring their children's usage of the internet, let's face it, especially with both parents often working outside the home to pay the bills, it's nearly impossible to stand guard over children's internet use 24/7.

The solution? Get rid of the internet access in one's home. Schools and public libraries offer safe, filtered internet access that is more secure and foolproof than many home filters. If internet access is needed by parents for work, then keep access on a laptop, that the parent can take with them to work, when they wouldn't be able to monitor their children's activities on it.

People should have the internet in their homes. Site filters at schools and libraries are often very easy to bypass, and won't keep children from getting onto inappropriate websites. I've already bypassed my schools blockers and it didn't take some giant leap of hacking. Plus often times the filters will restrict access to websites that a child needs when researching something.

Also children may need the internet when working at home on projects or reports. So it would be nessecary to have it then as well. Also it allows a child quick and easy communication with their peers. Throught email it becomes very easy for kids to work on a school project, even thought they are in diffrent places.

The best solution is to have a computer in the centralized part of the house, and keep internet access restricted with a password. This way the child must go to the parents when they want access to internt so they know when their child is online. And by keeping it in a centralized part of the house (ie: the kitchen, dining room, living room, ect.) parents can easily see what their kids are accessing.

[OpenSource-247]

Ha! You mean you did a search...on Google...and came up with results that were something other than cheats for your game?

Jesus Christ, the Internet must be broken!

Look,
Google is a huuuuuuuuuuuuge (big) search engine, and finds relevant words in the articles it turns up from your search.

The word Thief, for example...is very closely related to FRAUD, and credit card fraud is very popular, apparently...and I don't think it unreasonable to assume that the keyword 'thief' would turn up something related very closely to fraud....do you?

As for porn on the internet...it could be worse than there being kiddies somewhere bypassing their parental filters or exploiting their lack of oppression (*cough* Sorry, supervision) on the internet to look at material they either sought intentionally, or were disturbed by and Xed the window immediately. If the kid is interested in it, can't do much about it.

If the kid sees porn and doesn't understand it, maybe it's an opportunity to talk to them about sex, anyways...unless you find yourself trying to explain the difference between people and animals doing it, and depending on WHAT the child saw, why they shouldn't do it together...it's probably not a very big deal.

Heck, there's porn out there with kids of the age in question playing starring roles, go make a big deal about that.

Priorities, people! Think!
~Peace and <3

[SheffieldWednesday]

At 11/2/05 03:26 PM, RPGoddess wrote: Ha! You mean you did a search...on Google...and came up with results that were something other than cheats for your game?

Jesus Christ, the Internet must be broken!

Look,
Google is a huuuuuuuuuuuuge (big) search engine, and finds relevant words in the articles it turns up from your search.

The word Thief, for example...is very closely related to FRAUD, and credit card fraud is very popular, apparently...and I don't think it unreasonable to assume that the keyword 'thief' would turn up something related very closely to fraud....do you?

As for porn on the internet...it could be worse than there being kiddies somewhere bypassing their parental filters or exploiting their lack of oppression (*cough* Sorry, supervision) on the internet to look at material they either sought intentionally, or were disturbed by and Xed the window immediately. If the kid is interested in it, can't do much about it.

If the kid sees porn and doesn't understand it, maybe it's an opportunity to talk to them about sex, anyways...unless you find yourself trying to explain the difference between people and animals doing it, and depending on WHAT the child saw, why they shouldn't do it together...it's probably not a very big deal.

Heck, there's porn out there with kids of the age in question playing starring roles, go make a big deal about that.

Priorities, people! Think!
~Peace and <3

I do understand what you mean by this that Thief is close to fraud.
but i have Accedently Cliked PORN links and on some sites
there is no membership

there is 1 question
are you over 18
well thats a stupid question
ON GAMBLEING sites you have to hand your credit card details over to Say you are over 18 but on some porn sites they dont

[ninjitsu1212]

That my friend is true. The problem is, however, they can't define pornography. It could be classified as just "Unclothed People". The problem is, these people who are the so called "Internet Police" may...
1. Enjoy this stuff. (unlikely)
2. Just flat out don't care.
3. Try to convince themselves it's ok.
Another fact is that a website can be created fast and cheap, and chances are that about half of these are pornographic. The problem may in fact be that these people have never seen how easy it is to get into some bad places. If they got a Porn Store down the street from their house, they would do something. But, I doubt that will happen anytime soon, so I wouldn't expect too much too soon.