At 5/23/06 03:38 AM, Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
I love the way you always fundament what you say: that's shit or a load of crap. You, owner of absolute truth... (sarcasm in case you didn't notice).
This is coming from the guy who claims without sources most of the world would want the USSR back and that the USSR never used other countries people and resources.
USSR never used other countries' workers to get wealth or resources.
The Berlin Wall.
I dont need to say anything else.
USA has done it for a very long time already, since before USSR existed. USSR never exploited other countries' resources - it had enough to self-supply.
Your acting like the USA doesnt have tons of natural resources already.
And never exploited other countries? LAUGH. LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH. Thats all I have to say. You are so incredibly biased and in ignorance of such obvious historical facts such as the creation of communist puppet governments, against the native countries wishes, in damn near every Eastern Bloc country. Tell me, if those Eastern Bloc countries loved the USSR so much and all the wonderfullness the USSR offered them, why did EVERY SINGLE ONE of them leave the USSR when they realized the USSR could no longer hold them in agains their wishes, why they became capitalists, why they joined the EU, why they joined NATO, why they moved closer to the West and pulled away from Moscow.
That is a complete and utter ideological victory over communism and the USSR. It failed, the weaker country with the weaker economy, the weaker system, the more autocratic and controlling system, failed.
And you make no sense. You decry the USSR for not being real communists then pine for their re-existence. Illogical and foolish.
Nowadays 98% of Cubans can read and write and Cuba has become an authority on health research world-wide, nice way USSR exploited Cuba.
Yeah, I agree. Almost forcing a nuclear war by trying to stick their nuclear weapons and submarines in Cuba was such a nice way of not exploiting Cuba.
which could have meant the extermination of those communities' cultures if not for Cuban and Soviet assistance.
Did you totally miss that link I gave you about Latvia? Well, fine.
Unequal trade agreements with the East European countries permitted the Soviet Union access to valued resources.
Instead, the Soviet Union compelled Soviet-occupied Eastern Europe to supply machinery and raw materials. Germany and former Nazi satellites (including Finland) made reparations to the Soviet Union. The Soviet people bore much of the cost of rebuilding because the reconstruc tion program emphasized heavy industry while neglecting agriculture and consumer goods.
Eager to consolidate influence over a number of countries adjacent to the Soviet Union, Stalin pursued a n aggressive policy of intervention in the domestic affairs of these states, provoking strong Western reaction. The United States worked to contain Soviet expansion in this period of international relations that came to be known as the Cold War.
Taking advantage of its military occupation of these countries, the Soviet Union actively assisted local communist parties in coming to power. By 1948 seven East European countries--Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland, Romania, and Yugoslavia--had communist governments. The Soviet Union initially maintained control behind the "Iron Curtain" (a phrase coined by Churchill in a 1946 speech) through the use of troops, security police, and the Soviet diplomatic servi ce. Inequitable trade agreements with the East European countries permitted the Soviet Union access to valued resources.
Of course, every link I am giving and going to give is probably just Western propaganda and bullshit.
Look like the USSR
didnt give a rats ass about the enviroment either. Oh, indeed, the USSR cared SO much for the rainforests, evidenced by their actions.
The Hungarian Revolution was BRUTALLY supressed by your so called "non exploitive" USSR. The funny thing is, the people who started the campaign to withdraw from the Warsaw Pact WERE THE USSR's OWN COMMUNIST PUPPETS. And the USSR still came in and massacred them.
Prague Spring. Another "uprising" lead by the countries OWN COMMUNIST LEADERS is put down, by force, by the Soviet Union.
If not for Soviet assistance probably Viet Nam wouldn't have got rid of Unitedstatian troops, since, Warsaw's pact and COMECON's integrants did not only send military supplies to it but also basic needs. I'm sure such assistance is another way of exploitation.
Dont kid yourself. Soviet actions in Vietnam and Korea and wherever else they supplied arms and training to leftist guerillas and groups were NO different than what the United States did when they supplied arms to rightist guerillas to set up puppet governments for their own gain. ONE AND THE SAME.
You want to say all that? Fine. Im going to call the School of the Americas, when it was in Panama, a peaceable organization and training facility meant to maintain order in the volatile South Americas. I mean, giving arms and training to people cant be exploitation meant to further your own gains, can they?
And, would you mind to stop saying just "this is shit, the othr is shit, this is a load of crap..."?, damn, it becomes too monotonous and thus bothering. Or maybe I can't ask for too much.
If you can take your head out of your ass and finally admit some sembelance of the truth, I might try. But that also may be asking to much. When you say supid, unsupported shit, I really dont care how I come across.