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communism 2005-10-21 21:47:31 Reply

i love to tell you right wing assholes that hate communism Marshal Tito led a Communist revolution in serbia and he actually follwed communism instead of being an asshole like stalin and the the chinese it was more efficien than any other political systems so leave as much hate replies as you want

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Response to communism 2005-10-21 21:54:54 Reply

why?

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Response to communism 2005-10-21 22:38:00 Reply

Ok, fair enough, have your views but don't try and feed me no red bullshit

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Response to communism 2005-10-21 22:39:09 Reply

At 10/21/05 09:47 PM, ironmaiden233 wrote: i love to tell you right wing assholes that hate communism Marshal Tito led a Communist revolution in serbia and he actually follwed communism instead of being an asshole like stalin and the the chinese it was more efficien than any other political systems so leave as much hate replies as you want

Grammar doesn't hurt.

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Response to communism 2005-10-21 22:43:06 Reply

At 10/21/05 09:47 PM, ironmaiden233 wrote: i love to tell you right wing assholes that hate communism Marshal Tito led a Communist revolution in serbia and he actually follwed communism instead of being an asshole like stalin and the the chinese it was more efficien than any other political systems so leave as much hate replies as you want

Your argument is really lacking...
You basically say that these people followed communism, followed by some personal opinion - Twice over.
You say nothing as to why they chose communism, or why communism is more effiecient, or anything at all!!

Start over, and try again.

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Response to communism 2005-10-21 22:53:42 Reply

lol

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Response to communism 2005-10-22 07:42:48 Reply

At 10/21/05 09:47 PM, ironmaiden233 wrote: i love to tell you right wing assholes that hate communism Marshal Tito led a Communist revolution in serbia and he actually follwed communism instead of being an asshole like stalin and the the chinese it was more efficien than any other political systems so leave as much hate replies as you want

Then:
- Go work to china for 60$ on month or even less
- Have chinise google and ect
- Read I love communist party newspapers
- Be in 90% of chines people that dont have anny rights
- Be forcen to join "We all are happy" marches.

They start to lead in economy because they force people to work, people simply dont have choise he will work for shity money or he and his family will starw - communist party have 800 000 000 of low wage workers to use. Also other countirs that call chines bad they trade with them giving out technology ther.
+ chinies are much more effective in work than people in europe
and muche muche more :>

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Response to communism 2005-10-22 08:39:20 Reply

Not really

China can make all of that *made in china* crap because (and the definition of crap for this paragraph is just stuff. stuff..) they pay workers very low...

It's more of a slavery form of government then a communisitc, the rich arn't really sharing with the poor, and to a much much sharper degree then in america.

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Response to communism 2005-10-22 11:16:52 Reply

jesus tap dancing christ, how did the world come to this today. what the hell is going on in schools anymore that makes kid think like this.

Alright number one, try grammar.

number two, Has anyone ever heard of a man named Marshall Tito, when that is probally the most un russian name you can think of.

Number three, this is fucking siberia, of course if it ever worked, could work in a hunter society.


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Response to communism 2005-10-22 11:32:07 Reply

why can't we have an official communism thread, I'm getting really sick of all these communism topics. It's like we get a new communist in here every week, and none of them use the search bar.


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Response to communism 2005-10-22 11:40:45 Reply

At 10/22/05 11:32 AM, The_Tank wrote: why can't we have an official communism thread, I'm getting really sick of all these communism topics. It's like we get a new communist in here every week, and none of them use the search bar.

because if they believe in communism they have to be so smart and punk to not use the search bar.


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Response to communism 2005-10-22 12:13:54 Reply

ok..." Why shouldnt we have an official commnism thread"?

Because i dont want the homeland-security boys knocking up my house...

And about commnuism in general, I think everyone know that the intial Marxist ideal would have resulted in a good (not going to say any more than that, dont feel like talkin to the FBI tomorrow), society
The major flaw with the entire concept is the power structure of the transition.
The prime example of this is the history of the now-dissolved USSR
If you want a compressed-lesson, just go rent/buy the movie 'Animal farm'

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Response to communism 2005-10-22 12:16:44 Reply

At 10/22/05 12:13 PM, StLarry wrote: ok..." Why shouldnt we have an official commnism thread"?

Because i dont want the homeland-security boys knocking up my house...

Well I don't think thats really up to you, I was hoping a mod would take that particular idea to heart.

And about commnuism in general, I think everyone know that the intial Marxist ideal would have resulted in a good (not going to say any more than that, dont feel like talkin to the FBI tomorrow), society

You can say whatever you want, It's a free country. Observe - I advocate Terrorists and I'm in love with Saddam Huessien. The FBI isn't going to do shit.


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Response to communism 2005-10-22 13:36:02 Reply

At 10/22/05 12:13 PM, StLarry wrote: If you want a compressed-lesson, just go rent/buy the movie 'Animal farm'

People always mistake that for an anti-communist book. It was merely anti-USSR and anti-Stalin and against any other forms of totalitarianism. Orwell himself was a socialist, and as an educated man, he probably found Marx's ideals intriguing and insightful.

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Response to communism 2005-10-22 13:41:56 Reply

At 10/22/05 01:36 PM, Aapo_Joki wrote: Orwell himself was a socialist, and as an educated man, he probably found Marx's ideals intriguing and insightful.

Also, Orwell is the shit. And he probably has the nicest car in heaven.


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Response to communism 2005-10-22 19:15:51 Reply

Indeed, communism is the perfect type of ruling if a human that can be uncorupted leads it, unfortunately no such being exists. oh and try typing slowly or reading it over correct grammar doesn't hurt.

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Response to communism 2005-10-22 19:52:35 Reply

Tito wasn't communist nor did he practice communism in its 'true form' in his country. He was a socialist, very much like one you would find in any country around the world today.

The reason for the prosper of Yugoslavia is almost wholly due to Tito, with a good leader, any system can prosper, espescially with a good leader who has ultimate control. Not to say it was a bad system, just that Tito was a good guy.

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Response to communism 2005-10-22 20:17:29 Reply

At 10/22/05 07:52 PM, Jimsween wrote: just that Tito was a good guy.

Too bad he was so good that the country couldn't exist anymore without him. It's so intriguing that less than ten years after his death someone like Slobodan Miloševi was leading the country.

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Response to communism 2005-10-22 20:20:16 Reply

Part of it was that Tito had almost complete control over the country when he died, what was left was a group of people who had no idea what to do.

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Response to communism 2005-10-22 22:36:14 Reply

My sig says it all!

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Response to communism 2005-10-22 22:50:09 Reply

At 10/22/05 12:16 PM, The_Tank wrote: You can say whatever you want, It's a free country. Observe - I advocate Terrorists and I'm in love with Saddam Huessien. The FBI isn't going to do shit.

actually the Patriot Act is still in effect so if the FBI deemed that a terroristic statement, they could smash in your front door tomorrow and take you into custody no questions asked. however, making an official thread for communism isnt going to do anything as long as its just a debated topic. if there were actually plans made to overthrow the u.s. government and set up a communistic regime in the thread, however, then that can be deemed as a terrorist act and would result in a visit from the F.B.I.

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Response to communism 2005-10-23 01:09:55 Reply

Communism blows in my opinion. Nonetheless, US policies seem to lead us ever closer to becoming communist, only under a banner of democracy.

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Response to communism 2005-10-23 10:17:13 Reply

At 10/23/05 01:06 AM, marchingtyrants wrote: Communism has done good to the people and improvises globalisation and the welfare of the people of the Soviet Union, Cuba and China. >=(

SO STFU NOOB

china isn't communist, Cuba isn''t either and same with the USSR. but you have to be kidding about the good of the people. Stallin did real good for his people, how many did he kill or send to the gulags again. Have how about Mao, his great leap forward was really splendid too, and so was the attack on the students at Tienieman square.


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Response to communism 2005-10-23 13:49:31 Reply

At 10/23/05 01:09 AM, jlwelch wrote: Communism blows in my opinion. Nonetheless, US policies seem to lead us ever closer to becoming communist, only under a banner of democracy.

Are you kidding me, America is probably the least communistic first world country in the world (maybe Japan). If you want examples of countries moving slowly twords communism look at socialist Europe, more specificly France.


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Response to communism 2005-10-23 21:20:38 Reply

At 10/23/05 01:06 AM, marchingtyrants wrote: Communism has done good to the people and improvises globalisation and the welfare of the people of the Soviet Union, Cuba and China. >=(

SO STFU NOOB

communism sacrifices self gain for "the greater good." nothing exceptional can stand out from the pack and make something for itself. if you and little johnny worked at the same place and little johnny broke everything he touched you and him would earn the same pay even if you were gods gift to the working man. it causes lack of personal responsibility and inspires laziness in people because it causes people to expect things to be done for them. communism is a left wing government and is a completely messed up ideal. in the perfect world, it would be a utopian society, but since no such world exists, communism only leads to opression and ruin of a country. it can not work. if you want a view of what a city would look like under communism, read "faith of the fallen" by terry goodkind. publisher is TOR under their fantasy section, it's part of the sword of truth series. in that book you can see the "benefits" of communism.

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Response to communism 2005-10-23 21:51:10 Reply

At 10/23/05 09:20 PM, random8982 wrote: if you and little johnny worked at the same place and little johnny broke everything he touched you and him would earn the same pay even if you were gods gift to the working man.

You dont get it do you? There is no payment in communism.
You do your part and you recieve what you need to live. Communism is just a way of life where you survive, you dont need to expand or evolve. You just survive. You live under a roof, work, eat, sleep and start the day over until you become to old to work.


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Response to communism 2005-10-23 22:05:23 Reply

At 10/23/05 01:06 AM, marchingtyrants wrote: Communism has done good to the people and improvises globalisation and the welfare of the people of the Soviet Union, Cuba and China. >=(

What connunism? Oh, you mean state capitalism and totalitarianism. True communism has never been done.

SO STFU NOOB

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Response to communism 2005-10-24 03:52:50 Reply

At 10/22/05 11:32 AM, The_Tank wrote: why can't we have an official communism thread, I'm getting really sick of all these communism topics.

I tell people to go to this thread every single time I see a communism topic pop up. No one listens. Everyone continues to argue their stupid uninformed opinions advocating or bashing communism. I'm really not sure why I try.

As I tell people almost everytime I post this link, "start with my post on this page and read to the end of the thread. It is about 7 pages of reading. It won't kill you. If you still have something to contribute then contribute otherwise please refrian from discussing this topic ever again on Newgrounds. Thank you." Maybe I'll start bumping the topic every time I see someone create a new communism thread.

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Response to communism 2005-10-24 15:42:56 Reply

At 10/24/05 03:52 AM, Last_Socratic wrote: I tell people to go to this thread every single time I see a communism topic pop up. No one listens. Everyone continues to argue their stupid uninformed opinions advocating or bashing communism. I'm really not sure why I try.

Maybe I'll start bumping the topic every time I see someone create a new communism thread.

Id'e say bumping all these surplus communism topics would be a damn good idea. For instance this one right here should realy go.


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