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Racist to want to make sure that the Japanse culture remains Japanese?

Last time I checked that wasnt racist.

Racist to express that via discrimination and violence against non-Japanese.

At 10/25/05 01:05 AM, DMXRoid wrote: Racist to express that via discrimination and violence against non-Japanese.

Even though the beliefs of other cultures threatened to tear apart the Japanse culture.
Why do you think it is one of the oldest living monarchys?
Luck?

Even though the beliefs of other cultures threatened to tear apart the Japanse culture.
Why do you think it is one of the oldest living monarchys?
Luck?

At no point does any non-violent threat, even should it threaten one's culture, become an excuse for violence. It doesn't matter if Japanese kids were getting tattoos saying "Shinto Sucks Go Jesus", it wouldn't justify violence or discrimination.

At 10/25/05 01:41 AM, Velocitom wrote: Even though the beliefs of other cultures threatened to tear apart the Japanse culture.
Why do you think it is one of the oldest living monarchys?
Luck?

Isn't that what the KKK was against... you know poluting of the white race... gee that sounds familiar! NAZIS!

I realized thats almost as fun as Yatzi! .. but not quite because of the conotation

Nazis, KKK, black panthers, all other racist groups, its all dumb and stupid and unrighteous.... End of subject, on my end anyway.

On a last note, i really dont see the point in talking about the damn nazis, unless you like them or something or respect their foolish ways of understanding whats right and whats wrong. Having discussions about the nazis is like having a discussion about Satan, either way its a waste of time and space.

I think someone should lock this thread, serious. F*** hitler.

At 10/22/05 02:44 AM, TurnipClock wrote:

At 10/22/05 01:07 AM, gumOnShoe wrote: That is good enough for me, and the fact that they would do it again if they tried. I enjoy being able to "make my own decisions" or at least believe that I can. The complete disrespect for human life is also a turn off. I'm sorry if I want to be able to say what I want and live to see the sun rise without fear for me, my family or my friends.

Nazis aren't cool. They were based on an inconcieved idea in strenous times. Essentially they misinterprated darwin for their own political advantage.

What about what the Jews did to the Cannanites? or what they are doing to the Palestinians?
Get over yourself, its just as easy to hate Nazism as it is to compare Nazism to what the Jews have done.

What the heck are you talking about. The Palestinians brought it on themselves. Let me give you a little history lesson. The Zionists (Jews who wanted to create a homeland in Palestine) originally bought all of the land from the Palestinians!. They tended the land arid so crops could flourish. Meanwhile, Palestine had a little fuedal system going on so when the Palestinians saw the paradise the Zionists had created they wanted to join and leave their old peasant life behind! (they joined for better pay, obviously, the Palestinian land lords were not very kind to their "employees.") With the project for a homeland in Palestine going well the Palestinian land lords noticed they were losing money! The land lords roused up the masses and created antisemetic lies about the zionists stealing the land that belonged to Palestine. It was only in the war for independance that the Zionists gained land through means other than buying. When the State of Israel was formed the Zionists had to create a large army to defend it. THEY HAD 5 ARAB NATIONS READY TO TEAR IT'S HEAD OFF! Every Israeli had to be in the army for a minimum of 4 years. Under such extreme circumstances it's no wonder that the Israeli army has to keep such a constant vigil over it's Palestinian occupants. We gave the Palestinians the oppertunity to make a homeland for themselves, but the offer was shat on

By the way, in my life time every single Nazi is gonna be fucking dead. Either through sword or blade or fire and bomb, we shall have vengeance.

From, The human Race

At 10/25/05 09:38 AM, gumOnShoe wrote: Isn't that what the KKK was against... you know poluting of the white race... gee that sounds familiar! NAZIS!

Did black culture threaten to unearth the very fabric of the white culture?
Not really, they did it because they thought lower of black people and thought there race doesnt deserve to live.

While Christianity brought into Japanese culture threatened to demolish the monarchy and turn the entire country into dividing sides, Christians against the original Japanese. They has nothing against Christians, just the beliefs they held. The only foriegners that were allowed onto Japan was the Dutch because all they wanted to do was trade. Not to try and save souls.

Wow, you are a fucking idiot because Germany invaded Poland. Great Britain made a protection pact with Poland. So obviously when Germany invaded Poland GB had no choice but to protect it dumb ass!

Also German people are cool, im fucking German! The Nazi's fucking destroyed Germany and are burning in hell as we speak!

At 10/25/05 08:38 PM, Velocitom wrote:

At 10/25/05 09:38 AM, gumOnShoe wrote: Isn't that what the KKK was against... you know poluting of the white race... gee that sounds familiar! NAZIS!

Did black culture threaten to unearth the very fabric of the white culture?

The threat was imagined... why do you think that areas in inner cities that white people used to live in became predominantly black within a decades of black people first showing up. No one is going to admit they are racist, but I have seen it... and trust me there are white people that genually do hate black people and it isn't pretty. Thinking you are above someone else is a form of racism... thats the way nazis thought of themselves. I don't know how the connection can't be made

Not really, they did it because they thought lower of black people and thought there race doesnt deserve to live.

Same as nazis... RACISM... just by a differnt group

While Christianity brought into Japanese culture threatened to demolish the monarchy and turn the entire country into dividing sides, Christians against the original Japanese. They has nothing against Christians, just the beliefs they held. The only foriegners that were allowed onto Japan was the Dutch because all they wanted to do was trade. Not to try and save souls.

Sure they were protecting their culture and there is nothing wrong with that and frankly the whites were just as racist trying to force their ways on others... the japanese may have been right to keep people out, but hating people for the sole reason of their skin color is racisim... If anything once again the white people were racist again

At 10/25/05 10:10 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: The threat was imagined... why do you think that areas in inner cities that white people used to live in became predominantly black within a decades of black people first showing up.

To the racist people out there the incoming of black people was an inconvienance. Its not like it would tear apart the country.

No one is going to admit they are racist, but I have seen it... and trust me there are white people that genually do hate black people and it isn't pretty. Thinking you are above someone else is a form of racism...

Racism is attacking someone else because of there race, not thinking your higher than them.
But my grand parents where racist, so its not like its anything new.

Same as nazis... RACISM... just by a differnt group

Yes, they killed them because they thought they were a lower race and ATTACKED them because of it. I was setting this up for my next one because thats what I was mainly talking about. (Japanese)

but hating people for the sole reason of their skin color is racisim... If anything once again the white people were racist again

You dont understand it all do you? They didnt kill their own JAPANESE PEOPLE because of their skin color, they killed them because they believed that no man should rule an entire country and since they had a MONARCHY it was quite difficult for them to go on there way with thousands of protestors trying to abolish and tear apart the entire culture and life style of Japan.

Understand now?

At 10/25/05 10:21 PM, Velocitom wrote: Understand now?

But that wasn't the reasoning behind the nazis. They hated Jews and Black people because of their heritage and their identity, they posed no real threat and it was imagined so they would have a scapegoat... thats what racisim is...

antisemetism is a form of racism that nazis used. Why else would they have posters and propaganda on how to recognize a jew... by the nose, dipecting them as devils or greedy.

It was racism

At 10/25/05 10:43 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: But that wasn't the reasoning behind the nazis.

I wasnt talking about the Nazis, at the time when you quoted me I was talking about what the Japanese did (because some of the stuff they did might be considered racist) but it had a good reason. My point was there might be a point behind the slaughtering, not in the nazis case, but slaughtering a type of people that have a certain belief might have a reason behind it.

At 10/22/05 05:01 PM, gumOnShoe wrote

While we used to sacrifice animals we now pray peacefully for peace. We love our neighbors, welcome them into our homes. We work, we contribute to civilization, and we don't hurt anyone simply because of what they believe in.

You aren't a Jew from several thousand years ago, what you are like has shit-all to do with what they were like or did back then.

As for today, Israelies are currently in a battle with terrorists. The palestinians were offered peace, they were offered land, and they refused all of it.

If i recall the Palestinians were there first. How would you like it if you lived in a great place and then got told to go live in the desert?

They left their homes so that guerilla warfare could be used against the new nation as several nations attacked in a failed attempt.

Yeah, i'm sure every single Palestinian left their homes to participate in guerilla warfare. Please die you propagandist.

You are obviously a nazi, and will not listen to reason. You are as anti semetic and your insinuations are not appreciated. The Jews don't control the country, or the world. They don't control the media and they certainly aren't the stingy uncaring people you imagine them to be.

I am no Nazi, just because I completly disagree with you doesn't mean i want to gas you. I never stipulated the Jews controlled the world or the media nor would i ever beleive such a laughable thing. Please get fucked.

At 10/22/05 09:10 AM, sark88 wrote:

What about what the Jews did to the Cannanites? or what they are doing to the Palestinians?
Get over yourself, its just as easy to hate Nazism as it is to compare Nazism to what the Jews have done.

You forgot to mention the execution of Jesus Christ

No i left that out because Christ *had* to die for our sins (regardless of who killed him, he still needed to be killed by someone).

At 10/22/05 11:41 AM, Mr_B_Wich wrote: Do you live there? They rioted because of the Nazi did you even read my first post "A Neo-Nazi group CAUSED riots there last weekend"

I dont care what your post was called, the NSM had a march through the city, the retarded city-dwelling youth who dropped out of school turned a peacefull march into a riot. Regardless of what the NSM stands for, they did not cause the riot nor did they participate in it.

At 10/22/05 05:05 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: Yes the romans killed Jesus. Just like they did thousands of other jews. Simply because they believed him to be causing trouble. Why would the jews kill him and nail king of the jews over his head. Aren't we bright?

Jesus was killed by the Romands because the Jews could not condem a man to death. The high priests were threatened by Jesus because he went against there way of doing shit (which was very much money-oriented), and in turn they handed him over to the Romans to be killed.

I'm not tacking a jab at Jews, I'm just saying the high preists caused his death.

So... what relationsip does Jesus, Japan, and Romanads have with Nazism?

None I can see.

At 10/26/05 09:02 PM, affejunge wrote: So... what relationsip does Jesus, Japan, and Romanads have with Nazism?

None I can see.

You obviously can't understand what context is.

At 10/26/05 06:32 AM, TurnipClock wrote: At 10/22/05 05:01 PM, gumOnShoe wrote

While we used to sacrifice animals we now pray peacefully for peace. We love our neighbors, welcome them into our homes. We work, we contribute to civilization, and we don't hurt anyone simply because of what they believe in.

You aren't a Jew from several thousand years ago, what you are like has shit-all to do with what they were like or did back then.

so youre saying back then we hurt people simply for what they believed in, and we didnt contribute to civilazation? oh and gum please dont use the "we dont slaghter animals" thing because we do. and i firmly believe there isnt anything wrong with that

As for today, Israelies are currently in a battle with terrorists. The palestinians were offered peace, they were offered land, and they refused all of it.

If i recall the Palestinians were there first. How would you like it if you lived in a great place and then got told to go live in the desert?

woop-de-do GB was here before we were. great place? ha lmao. before the jews made their "yishuv" palestine was a fucking desert. it wasnt filled with cities and the like. the jews move there build it up and then palestinians attak them because they wanted to reap the more fruits of the israeli labor, even though they did already owe a lot to the israelites

They left their homes so that guerilla warfare could be used against the new nation as several nations attacked in a failed attempt.

Yeah, i'm sure every single Palestinian left their homes to participate in guerilla warfare. Please die you propagandist.

did he say they ALL left their homes?

You are obviously a nazi, and will not listen to reason. You are as anti semetic and your insinuations are not appreciated. The Jews don't control the country, or the world. They don't control the media and they certainly aren't the stingy uncaring people you imagine them to be.

At 10/27/05 07:01 AM, therealsylvos wrote:

At 10/26/05 06:32 AM, TurnipClock wrote: At 10/22/05 05:01 PM, gumOnShoe wrote

While we used to sacrifice animals we now pray peacefully for peace. We love our neighbors, welcome them into our homes. We work, we contribute to civilization, and we don't hurt anyone simply because of what they believe in.

You aren't a Jew from several thousand years ago, what you are like has shit-all to do with what they were like or did back then.

so youre saying back then we hurt people simply for what they believed in, and we didnt contribute to civilazation? oh and gum please dont use the "we dont slaghter animals" thing because we do. and i firmly believe there isnt anything wrong with that

What I'm saying is that you aren't a Jew from back there nor is any other Jew alive today, so whatever bullshit you stand for has nothing to do with the Jews from 2000 years ago.

Just to piss all the peasce-lovers off: HEIL HITLER!

Well. It is quite a harsh topic. I believe I have a pretty accurate view. The original Nazism was an extremely bad event. People were slaughtered ant treaded very badly. It doesn't effect me too much because I am Christian but I have Jewish friends. Now, I have no problem with Neo-Nazism. I saw this thing on like 60 minutes or something about these kids and families that grew up with Neo-Nazism. They were happy, fun loving people. This new trend isnt doing anything wrong. People aren't dying as a result. People just need to understand that too many people died as a result. Now, it WAS nature's way of weening out the population. If everyone that died had kids, (say 10,000 died and each had 2 kids and each of those 2 kids had 2 kids) there would be too many people in this world. I don't feel like calculating it although it is an easy calculation, there would be too many people. So this event needed to happen even if it was a bad event.

At 10/26/05 09:02 PM, affejunge wrote: So... what relationsip does Jesus, Japan, and Romanads have with Nazism?

None I can see.

You do know that Hitler’s vision was heavily based around the Roman empire and wanted to resurrect it but in a modern form. Also Hitler had all ways admired the British Empire, which once healed America, India, Australia, and New Zealand and never wanted war with Britain. And did you know that even the Hitler salute comes from the Romans

It's kind of depressing to see that people are so brain-dead that they automatically revert to media stereotypes of Nazism being nothing beyond "Aryans", War, and genocide. Nationalism can be applied to ANY ethnic group to preserve their race and culture. Jeff Weise was a Nazi because he saw that his people's land, culture, and race we're slowly fading away, (as is the case for all people in a mulit-culturalist egalitarian society). Whether he's white or not is irrelevant, National Socialism benefits all races and cultures respectively

Black Nationalists

Chinese Nationalists

Quebec Nationalists

Jewish Nazis

Aztec Nationalists

Nazism sucks because of their socialist programs. And are stupid because they send all those smart people to america to make nuclear bombs and such.

At 12/26/05 08:51 PM, arz756 wrote: Nazism sucks because of their socialist programs.

The Socialist programs employed by the Third Reich seemed to benefit their society greatly. Although I suppose if you're someone who is more concerned with absurd individualism as opposed to the health of a civilization as a whole may disagree with the way Nazi Germany was structured.

:And are stupid because they send all those smart people to america to make nuclear bombs and such.

The Germans never deported any scientists as far as I know, those who chose to leave did so willingly. And the only reason the Allies came up with the nuclear bomb first was because they had far greater resources and personal to do so in comparison to the Germans (as they were pressed fighting a war where they were outnumbered 10 to 1).

At 10/22/05 05:05 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: Yes the romans killed Jesus. Just like they did thousands of other jews. Simply because they believed him to be causing trouble. Why would the jews kill him and nail king of the jews over his head. Aren't we bright?

Jesus was killed by the Romands because the Jews could not condem a man to death. The high priests were threatened by Jesus because he went against there way of doing shit (which was very much money-oriented), and in turn they handed him over to the Romans to be killed.

I'm not tacking a jab at Jews, I'm just saying the high preists caused his death.

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!?!! THIS IS DENYING ALL HISTORICAL FACT! It is a KNOWN fact that Pontus Pilate, A ROMAN, not a Jew (as various Medival ballads state), was the instigator of the crucifiction of Joshua of Nazareth. So, we know that your Christ (I say 'your' Christ because the word Christ refers to a messiah as far as I know, and my messiah hasn't come yet, so there we go.) was crucified. Yes. We can all agree on that. By whom? Romans. Who else would do that?

A nazi (short for; nationalist socialist) is, in itself, a contradiction, due to hitlers explusion of communism as soon as he got to power. Naziism is defined as the belief in an aryan race, so yes, it is racist, to the most extreme degree. And finally, aimless 13 year olds and the like are most prone to believing in naziism because of their lack of taught morality. That is why they're telling you those things. Naziism is not a good thing to get into, not only because of the inherent evil imbued to it by the third reich, but also the embarrassment you'll feel in a few years when you look back at what you did.

I am not sure whether I replied to that post or not, just in case, I would reply to it again.

At 10/24/05 04:54 PM, sark88 wrote: 1.) And what of Stalin who killed 20,000,000 of his own kind

Excuse me sir, but who said that Stalin was a great man? I think that Stalin was a terrible, awful man and that his acts were wring, I never supported the fact that he killed 20,000,000 people.

2.) Also it was the UK who started WWII

Nah...It was germany which started the WWII, Nazi germany to be accurate.

3.) Not when you have good reason to be

What is it, if I may ask? Anyway it is, even if they hate the Jews for a justified reason (and there is no justified reason to do so), is it a justified reason to kill 6,000,000 of them? Do you even realise this number?! When you hate someone, you don't go and kill him, don't you?

4.) That’s your opinion

Nah...That is everyone's opinion. Look at the arguments they have for their racist point of view. This whole darwinism and rubbish is not something which proves a single thing.

5.) Don’t the Jews call themselves "gods chosen people"? And you say Nazi believe they are the best.

Well, don't the Christians believe that they are the only right religion? Don't the Islam believes the exact same thing? What about the ancient Helenistic and Roman religion? They are all the same, they all believe that they believe in the only right religion. However, Judaism is the only one between all of those which didn't convert people to their religion. So please do not say that the Jews are thinking themselves to be the best of all, that would make you retarded.

So in answer to your question, No that’s not enough reasons.

Well, actually, even the first reason alone is enough, but if you want to do it the hard way, it is your problem.

6. The Nazis used Imperialism in order to take over Europ.
7. The Nazis destroyed every single right the human has, even their civilians' rights.
8. The Nazis fooled the regular German to think that the Jews are evil.

I can continue this, but I don't even bother because these are the small things.

my god that guy was a complete idiot, Naziism is stupid due to many reasons.

1. need i mention the millions of jews killed and other types(homosexuals etc) who were killed unjustly for no humane reason.
2.started war with neighbouring countries for no sane reason.
3.need i mention their arrogance due to their racism,homophobia and any other things.
4.they are pig headed believing their"Race is better"
5.they are again close minded due to their stance to other religions.
6.they killed people in wars they started for no sane reason.

need i go on? oh and if anyone trys to go on about comparing other people or whatever to nazi's saying they were bad aswell then dont bother as this guy asked about Naziism.