even when the women is a crack whor

[Leftover-crack]

ok so most parents that have all custody of their kids are 90% women(even if the woman is a crack whore). but really (most) men like too raise their children but the Fing system is full of female judges(I'm not saying that female judges are bad)
that seem too think that even though the man has a better paying job, can support their kids real easy and are probably better parents, the women have too take the children since "they need a mother more". BULL SHIT! I could do without a mom(I lvoe my mom). when I cried because of a scraped knee I went too my dad and thats how I toughed up and such but he still acted as a parent should with his toddler. even if it was a girl with her father it would be the same, or just a little.

WHY DO THE WOMEN ALWAYS WIN IN THE COURT EVEN WHEN THEY ARE THE WORSE PARENT ON THE PLANET!?

[Leftover-crack]

At 10/6/05 06:18 PM, CadillacClock wrote:

Also, the woman shot you out and thus she was more right to you.

yet you say I suck at spelling...

anyways I'm just saying that once women say "I love my kids" they win. IF I GOT SOME CHIC KNOCKED UP AND WANTED MY KIDS I'D SAY THAT TOO! BUT LOVING THEM IS ONE THING TAKING GOOD CARE OF THEM AND PLANNING WHAT SCHOOL THEY GO TOO AND SUCH!

[PhysicsMafia]

theres a pretty big deal bein made abt this in brtin at the min, a group called fathers for justice have been protesting for fathers rights for a while now. the thing is in a lot of separations the father doesnt want full custody. its more fair now than it used to be but women are usually better at parenting than men, they have a more caring nature (in general) and it has always traditionaly been seen as the womens job to look after the children and the mans job to bring in the money..

[Proteas]

My cousin's wife loved her kids... still didn't work on the judge though. I'm sure the whole "she slept with half the town" bit didn't help matters anyway.

Seriously, she was.

[Leftover-crack]

EXACTLY mafia! thats what i've been saying!! but really the whole I love my kid thing is just stupid

[PhysicsMafia]

At 10/6/05 06:31 PM, bratpack34 wrote: EXACTLY mafia! thats what i've been saying!! but really the whole I love my kid thing is just stupid

trying to discerne who is a better parent wouldnt be an easy job tho, unless one was a crack whore or a murderer or sumfin like that. i think the child, if they are old enough should hav a say in it to, join custody is generally the best idea tho, children benifit from having both a father and a mothers influence in their lives

[Memorize]

Why do more women get custody? Because others ignore the fact that it takes a man to create a child as well.

[JoS]

What I think is unfair is if they seperate and have joint custody or atleast frequent visitation and then the wife decides to move far away, makign it incredibaly difficult for the fatehr to see the child, soemtimes finacially impossible to see them more than once or twice a year.

[fahrenheit]

Unfortunatly thats how our society works. Full custody is given to the women unless (a) the mother is abusive or (b) she is addicted to drugs. But even then she sometimes gets the child.

[Leftover-crack]

men really have too take this too the courts or something before the feminist have a field day.

[Radam]

At 10/6/05 06:12 PM, bratpack34 wrote: ...WHY DO THE WOMEN ALWAYS WIN IN THE COURT EVEN WHEN THEY ARE THE WORSE PARENT ON THE PLANET!?

I'd have to check my facts to be sure, but from what I've been told, while it's mostly women who end up with custody, the majority of men who seek custody do get it.

If my information's right, I guess your answer would be that the men don't seek custody.

[lili462]

ok the thing about crack whores getting custody of their children over a decent well paid father, thats a bunch of cripe. First off in that situation if the father actually cared he could get custody over the crackwhore. all a man has to do is prove the mother unfit, i think being a crackwhore would fit into that catagory. when you post try not to over exxagerate

[lili462]

At 10/6/05 06:43 PM, TimeFrame wrote: Why do more women get custody? Because others ignore the fact that it takes a man to create a child as well.

I'll put it simply for you. We carry a life around in our wombs for nine months. we go through mood swings, we vomit constantly, and last but not least..WE PUSH SOMETHING THE SIZE OF A WATERMELON OUT OF SOMETHING THAT IS THE SIZE OF A PEA. Dont get me wrong yes men do take part in creating life, but they dont have to bare the pain. thats why.

[SEXY-FETUS]

It's getting better. In my case my ex is stable, not abusive, and has a steady income. She just isn't a very good person. I'm pretty damn close to having full custody as we speak, I think the main deciding factor was I chose a home in a better school district and she's been constantly late to court through this little ordeal.
Also if the mother is a crack whore, what does that say for the father?

[Leftover-crack]

At 10/13/05 02:15 AM, lili462 wrote:

I'll put it simply for you. We carry a life around in our wombs for nine months. we go through mood swings, we vomit constantly, and last but not least..WE PUSH SOMETHING THE SIZE OF A WATERMELON OUT OF SOMETHING THAT IS THE SIZE OF A PEA. Dont get me wrong yes men do take part in creating life, but they dont have to bare the pain. thats why.

whoa whoa. first off I want too say I bow too women for bringing life into the world. but just because you pushed a melon from your vagina doesn't mean your the best parent in the fucking world. yeah men do shape a childs life forever as well. no one really likes mothers aproval. well guys at least.

in a way (I hope god doesn't have the internet) a father is a childs god. what I'm saying is that HE is the one that sets us striaght. really fathers teach the child right from wrong. mothers do this but not really as much.

SO DON'T FUCKING TELL ME THAT YOU GET CUSTODY BY DEFUALT AND BECAUSE YOU PUSHED A BABY OUT OF YOU! THATS DANDY AND ALL BUT IN THE END ITS ONE THAT IS THE BETTER PARENT!

[lili462]

At 10/13/05 05:58 PM, bratpack34 wrote:

At 10/13/05 02:15 AM, lili462 wrote:

I'll put it simply for you. We carry a life around in our wombs for nine months. we go through mood swings, we vomit constantly, and last but not least..WE PUSH SOMETHING THE SIZE OF A WATERMELON OUT OF SOMETHING THAT IS THE SIZE OF A PEA. Dont get me wrong yes men do take part in creating life, but they dont have to bare the pain. thats why.

whoa whoa. first off I want too say I bow too women for bringing life into the world. but just because you pushed a melon from your vagina doesn't mean your the best parent in the fucking world. yeah men do shape a childs life forever as well. no one really likes mothers aproval. well guys at least.

in a way (I hope god doesn't have the internet) a father is a childs god. what I'm saying is that HE is the one that sets us striaght. really fathers teach the child right from wrong. mothers do this but not really as much.

SO DON'T FUCKING TELL ME THAT YOU GET CUSTODY BY DEFUALT AND BECAUSE YOU PUSHED A BABY OUT OF YOU! THATS DANDY AND ALL BUT IN THE END ITS ONE THAT IS THE BETTER PARENT!

i never said that it made women the better parent. i was just answering a question. women are most likely to gain custody of their children, due to the fact that we bare the pain of child birth. You have to prove a mother unfit in order for her to get no custody. and secondly why are you trying to turn this into an argument. and yes, women are granted custody by default, you have to prover her to be unfit. In my opinion i dont think one parent should get sole custody, if they were a decent parent they would want the child to to still have there mother or father in their life still. i only see soul custody necessary if the other parent is severely fucked up in the head, or cant hold a steady job, or is a horrible drug addict. I'm not saying with my previous statement that all women should get sole custody because we pushed a baby out, i was just stating why we normally do get custody.

[smith916]

The author of this thread is lucky.

You see... male is one of the qualifications of the axis of evil. You fortunatly have a good democratic dad who is nice to you rather than an insane republican one who sexually abuses you (if you were a girl) and his wife. The kind of insane republican like george bush who inslaved laura and turned her into a stepford whife.

[specimen56]

The idea of a court decicion should be about who is the better parent. Thats the idea behind it. Based on money, psychological state and so on. The fact of gender should have no part to play in it. The better parent- the parent who can give the child the better quality of life- should be the one who raises it.
I did an article a while ago on fathers 4 justice, in which I interviewed some members of the pressure group. Their stories are appauling. A lot of the time in the courts facts are twisted by lawyers, irrelevant information is bought up. One man's wife cheated on him 3 times: they divorced, and she got custody of the children based on the idea that she needed to find stimulation in places other than her husbands company.
The British family court system is very biased and sexist in its attitudes to child care. Don't hope for it to change anytime soon though unless you get out there yourself and say something on the streets instead of on a internet BBS.

[Gunter45]

I know of a woman who lost her right to have children, ever. She tried to kill her baby by leaving it in a dumpster. It sucks, because he's the grandson of some of the coolest people on the planet. The father didn't even know he was a father, but they caught the woman and she ID'd him as the father. DNA tests were positive. He chose to give up his right as a parent, as well. It really sucks. The grandparents are raising the baby, but what's sad is that he lost a lot of blood because the umbilical cord wasn't tied off and he lost a lot of blood. He suffered massive brain damage, but he's the sweetest little baby you've ever seen. He's fascinated by the guitar. When I'm playing, he'll walk over and stare at it. He'll look all over the guitar trying to figure out how it works. He'll even walk over and strum som eof the strings when I'm not playing. It's adorable. He has to wear glasses, too. Thick ones. It's sad that he never even had a chance from the start.

What's crazy, though, is that both the mother and father have lost their right to ever be a parent again. Can you imagine? That has to be an awful feeling to know that you were so negligent that you can't ever raise a child? That's sad.

[Der-Ubermensch]

At 10/13/05 02:15 AM, lili462 wrote:

I'll put it simply for you. We carry a life around in our wombs for nine months. we go through mood swings, we vomit constantly, and last but not least..WE PUSH SOMETHING THE SIZE OF A WATERMELON OUT OF SOMETHING THAT IS THE SIZE OF A PEA. Dont get me wrong yes men do take part in creating life, but they dont have to bare the pain. thats why.

If you women didn't have men to support you, you'd be raising those kids out of cardboard boxes while begging for scraps near your local chinese restaurant.

Quit being so ungrateful.

[PhysicsMafia]

At 10/15/05 02:34 PM, -Ubermensch- wrote:

If you women didn't have men to support you, you'd be raising those kids out of cardboard boxes while begging for scraps near your local chinese restaurant.

Quit being so ungrateful.

Who said chivalry was dead.lol. joint custody is the only viable option for the children in most cases, children that come from a stable background are more likely to do well in school and not be involved in petty crime. i would say this is down to the fathers authoritarian figure, sure mothers can deal out punishments but by the time most kids, guys anyway, are 14 or 15 they are already bigger than their mums and without a father figure to put them in line it can be hard for the mother to keep controll. children benifit from the influences of both parents and the sooner the parents realise that their selfish antics or trying to get one over on eachother by using their kids is just gona fuk them up in the long run the better

[Der-Ubermensch]

At 10/15/05 02:44 PM, PhysicsMafia wrote:

children benifit from the influences of both parents and the sooner the parents realise that their selfish antics or trying to get one over on eachother by using their kids is just gona fuk them up in the long run the better

I couldn't agree more. We're living in a rather depraved era though; people couldn't care less about what's considered to be proper.

[afterdeath]

My father was my main parental guardian. I saw my mom every other weekend, and they switched off holidays, maybe it's just 'cause our case was older?

[lili462]

At 10/15/05 02:34 PM, -Ubermensch- wrote:

At 10/13/05 02:15 AM, lili462 wrote:

I'll put it simply for you. We carry a life around in our wombs for nine months. we go through mood swings, we vomit constantly, and last but not least..WE PUSH SOMETHING THE SIZE OF A WATERMELON OUT OF SOMETHING THAT IS THE SIZE OF A PEA. Dont get me wrong yes men do take part in creating life, but they dont have to bare the pain. thats why.

If you women didn't have men to support you, you'd be raising those kids out of cardboard boxes while begging for scraps near your local chinese restaurant.

Quit being so ungrateful.

i know plenty of women who raise their children without support from the father and they are pretty well off. You need to lose the concept that women are completly dependent upon men.

[Memorize]

At 10/15/05 07:07 PM, lili462 wrote:

i know plenty of women who raise their children without support from the father and they are pretty well off. You need to lose the concept that women are completly dependent upon men.

No one is thinking that. What bothers people is that the father could have a higher paying job and could be much better suited in raising the child, yet it's the mother who always gains custody regardless.

[lili462]

At 10/15/05 07:16 PM, TimeFrame wrote:

At 10/15/05 07:07 PM, lili462 wrote:

i know plenty of women who raise their children without support from the father and they are pretty well off. You need to lose the concept that women are completly dependent upon men.

No one is thinking that. What bothers people is that the father could have a higher paying job and could be much better suited in raising the child, yet it's the mother who always gains custody regardless.

yes he was, he said if it wasnt for men we'd be living in cardboard boxes or some shit like that. And what your saying i know this, its not me who chooses to give custody to all mothers, i'm just answering peoples questions.

[Leftover-crack]

At 10/15/05 12:32 PM, lili462 wrote:

and yes, women are granted custody by default.

wait what if the man sues for custody?

[lili462]

At 10/16/05 12:13 AM, bratpack34 wrote:

At 10/15/05 12:32 PM, lili462 wrote:

and yes, women are granted custody by default.

wait what if the man sues for custody?

well then they fight it out in court, what else would they do? about a year ago i had a family that lived in the same building as i. The couple had three children. The couple split up. One nigh there was a big dispute between the two of them over the kids, the cops got involved yada yada yada. i was present when the cop arrived because i was trying to calm down the mother. she was asking questions about custody before during seperation (before a divorce), now i cant remember the officers exact words but what he basically said is that "the mother is the priority (that is the word i will use that can best describe what he said) gaurdian, and can keep the children during a serperation before any custody battle begins. she can allow the father to see the children, or she can not allow him to see them (thats if she wants to be a crude bitch). If during the serperation the mother does not want to maintain her gaurdianship of the children the father basically takes over her role as "priority" gaurdian. then he can allow or disallow her to see them and what not" so basically what i meant when i said "women get custody by default" is that.