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Alright, all people who claim their countries have smarter people than those in America please point out your countries flag on the moon. Oh you don't have one there well perhaps you could list some of the technological innovations that originated from your country such as harnassing electricity, air travel or atomic energy... oh...

At 9/13/05 08:48 PM, altanese_mistress wrote: =D Complicated ballots! Faulty computers! The votes for Kerry (and earlier Gore) beggining in the negative! Electoral college!

Why is it only the democrats who claim the ballots are too complicated for their supporters, the republicans don't seem to have any trouble. I thought people who vote (or intend to vote) democrat are smarter.

Everybody hates Bush huh?

At 9/14/05 10:09 PM, BeFell wrote: Alright, all people who claim their countries have smarter people than those in America please point out your countries flag on the moon. Oh you don't have one there well perhaps you could list some of the technological innovations that originated from your country such as harnassing electricity, air travel or atomic energy... oh...

And throw in some others:

Telegram, telephone, car (automobile is more like it), train... I could go on and on :)

Also, I believe it was NASA that has the Mars landings (for the probes) not Russia, UK,
France, or.... Canada!

At 9/13/05 08:48 PM, altanese_mistress wrote: =D Complicated ballots! Faulty computers! The votes for Kerry (and earlier Gore) beggining in the negative! Electoral college!

Why is it only the democrats who claim the ballots are too complicated for their supporters, the republicans don't seem to have any trouble. I thought people who vote (or intend to vote) democrat are smarter.

I did too... supposedly it includes the more intelligent Americans...

I also thought that those computers were pretty simple - you press a person you want to vote for - it's not rocket sciense!

And the ballots... geez people, learn how to hole punch...

Everybody hates Bush huh?

That picture is wrong on one point - Alaska is red

Lol, Utah and Oklahoma are completly red :p

every one doesn't hate him. The people who do are just more outspoken and the media gives them more attention for ratings...

Okay, I've read enough, you people haven't changed at all, you try and defend your country when there is nothing to defend, I pray for the day you people finally understand how much of a country the U.S. really is, wait 30 years.

At 9/14/05 11:20 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote: Okay, I've read enough, you people haven't changed at all, you try and defend your country when there is nothing to defend, I pray for the day you people finally understand how much of a country the U.S. really is, wait 30 years.

"Try and defened"? You've got to be kidding me. Your argument has systamticaley picked apart and proven wrong by all the people who have posted against you. I already understand how much of a country the US is, it's one of the best in the world! We have freedom, democracy, justice, the chance to become whatever we want, the list goes on and on. There's no other place I would rather live then the US. I'll be the first to admit, the US isn't perfect (heck nobody is), but it's damn near close. As for what it will be in 30 years, it will still be the same great country in which I live, one which I'm ready to give my life for.
As for what you do, you sit around talking about how stupid people are from another country, that you aren't even from. Do you have any idea what that sounds like? I'll give you an idea, you canadians are soooo stupid, you don't even realise that you're a bunch of commies, and you're leader is a dumb shit bag! Seriously that's what it sounds like! So you know what you can do? You can shove it! Come back and start bitching when you actually know what you're talking about!
There I'm done, it just gets really annoying when you hear all this crap all the time.

At 9/14/05 11:20 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote: Okay, I've read enough, you people haven't changed at all, you try and defend your country when there is nothing to defend, I pray for the day you people finally understand how much of a country the U.S. really is, wait 30 years.

Make us change. You have a voice, and you have your resources. Just to let you know, generalizing and stereotyping is one of the greatest logical fallacies in an argument. Back up what you say, elaborate on what you want to say, and titillate our minds.

At 9/14/05 11:20 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote: Okay, I've read enough, you people haven't changed at all, you try and defend your country when there is nothing to defend, I pray for the day you people finally understand how much of a country the U.S. really is, wait 30 years.

Yes, that's it, HOW DARE THEY counter your incredibly witty argument of "Americans are dumb". You're so smart. You're so... rebellious! You're the boss. You're the king! Where would our world be if it wasn't for INDIVIDUAL minds like yours, that oppose to the dangerously successful and terrifyingly satisfactory system of capitalism!
I just wish... I just wish everyone were like you. Smart. Deep. Intelligent.
Your posts are just so wondefully ORIGINAL, and incredibly OPEN-MINDED, that I find myself amazed at you. Plus, you CERTAINLY are NOT fixated with the same fucking issue in such a way that you whine incessantly about it in every fucking post that you make. No sir, you're not one of those people.
You're NOT repetitive.
You're NOT moronic.
You're NOT a pseudo-communist poser with no life whatsoever.

If an American says his country is great and points out a few facts he thinks is accurate, then why would other Americans disagree? The majority of people here are Americans, end of conversation.

Okay, the U.S. did not land on the moon in 1969, that has been proven by the actual film that was taken on the moon, the flag waved when there is in fact no air in space, also, America never proved they got up there, in fact the first picture taken of the U.S. flag on the moon by another country was in 1972 when a Soviet Satelite passed by, it is believed that the United States in fact landed on the moon not on the Appolo 11 mission but on the third or fourth mission to the moon.
Considering the fact that the United States said it would land on the moon before the decade was out and did so 5 months before the 1970s arrived, wow, how timely, eh?

As for the matter of atomic energy, okay, um, let me think, there's at least 20 countries now that have atomic energy, you idiots, and as for the atomic bomb, you never used it, oh I;m sorry, oh yes you used it against 100,000 Japanese civilians in two small factory towns, that's real nice.

Now, as for you military, oh woo hoo, the United States needs it's military badly, and they cut a lot of funding to keep their military up to date, that's why the U.S. doesn't have health care or social security and a whole bunch of humane shit that every other 1st world country has. The United States could be invaded on four sides, and since it is situated in moderate temperature all year round, that much easier. Now, consider this, if the United States did not have it's military, what would happen? It would probably have more friends instead of now where it goes: " hahaha, we have a strong military, we can kick your ass " and is hated by everyone, oh sorry, you have Israel as an Ally.

At 9/14/05 11:45 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote: [...]

Oh, I'm SO deeply sorry, I must have some kind of reading dysfunction, because I look at your post and I can only read WHINE WHINE BITCH BITCH BIAS BIAS BULLSHIT BULLSHIT WAAH WAAH.

Would you be so kind to phrase that again?

^Typical American Jackass.

At 9/14/05 11:50 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote: ^Typical American Jackass.

Now let's see what you just did here.

You ASSUMED that, merely because I made a comment about the ineffable studity and retardedness of your post, I just HAD to be an evil capitalist Imperialist American.
Nevermind the HUGE FUCKING CHILEAN FLAG in my signature, of course. That's just for distractions. Nevermind the PROFILE, either. I just HAVE to be American.

Big thinkin' there, chief. Big thinkin'.
Now try to do it again, but without all the overwhelming suck.

At 9/14/05 11:45 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote: If an American says his country is great and points out a few facts he thinks is accurate, then why would other Americans disagree? The majority of people here are Americans, end of conversation.

Okay, the U.S. did not land on the moon in 1969, that has been proven by the actual film that was taken on the moon, the flag waved when there is in fact no air in space, also, America never proved they got up there, in fact the first picture taken of the U.S. flag on the moon by another country was in 1972 when a Soviet Satelite passed by, it is believed that the United States in fact landed on the moon not on the Appolo 11 mission but on the third or fourth mission to the moon.
Considering the fact that the United States said it would land on the moon before the decade was out and did so 5 months before the 1970s arrived, wow, how timely, eh?

You keep telling yourself we didn't land on the moon in 69, who knows that thought might actually become true some day.

As for the matter of atomic energy, okay, um, let me think, there's at least 20 countries now that have atomic energy, you idiots, and as for the atomic bomb, you never used it, oh I;m sorry, oh yes you used it against 100,000 Japanese civilians in two small factory towns, that's real nice.

The point was that America was the first to develop that technology among others, and of course others would develop it later. You do realize that by dropping the bomb, hundreds of thousands of lives were saved. Don't agree with me on that? Then post here

Now, as for you military, oh woo hoo, the United States needs it's military badly, and they cut a lot of funding to keep their military up to date, that's why the U.S. doesn't have health care or social security and a whole bunch of humane shit that every other 1st world country has. The United States could be invaded on four sides, and since it is situated in moderate temperature all year round, that much easier. Now, consider this, if the United States did not have it's military, what would happen? It would probably have more friends instead of now where it goes: " hahaha, we have a strong military, we can kick your ass " and is hated by everyone, oh sorry, you have Israel as an Ally.

We have health care and social security. It's just not like Canada's. As for humane things, I'm pretty sure we aren't missing any thing. I could be wrong could you name a few humane institions we're missing?
Yes the United States has four sides, just like every other country, did you figure that one out all by yourself?
There's a moderate temprature in all year round only here in Souther California. Everypalce else gets fairly cold during the winter.
If the United States didn't have it's military we would all be speaking Japanese and German right now, yes that includes you too, our Canadian brothers.
We're not hated by everyone. We are on fairly good terms with a lot of countries. Here's a few Russia, Japan, China, England, Canada, Isreal, and Australia. And the list goes on and on.

At 9/14/05 09:12 PM, beelzebuba wrote: bahamas: people drive like like crazy people, but they will sell you a pound of weed for 50 bucks

england: they have bad, bland food...they are arrogant, shitty roads, fucked up teeth

france: i don't know i didn't talk to anyone...good food though.

germany: german girls love american cock...but who cares about them anyway...those fucking nazi pussys

canada: there is no good music that originated in canada....a bunch of dickheads that like to fingers their a-holes....everything popular there has been stolen from american pop culture. weak army.

Dont say America is stupid! dont generalise us!

But all other contry in the world suck! cuz were American!

America stupid? no

America arrogant and over patriotic? fuck yeah

At 9/15/05 12:03 AM, Blackhawkdown wrote: The point was that America was the first to develop that technology among others, and of course others would develop it later. You do realize that by dropping the bomb, hundreds of thousands of lives were saved. Don't agree with me on that? Then post here

I'm sorry to correct you here on a couple points, but here goes. Nobody else developed nuclear power. The Russians stole the technology from us and the rest is history. Also, we didn't know how powerful the bombs were when we dropped them. Those were our trial runs, so to speak.

As for Soviet, I'm not even going to waste my time. You guys can argue until you're purple, he's still going to be an idiot. There was another guy like that on here before, anybody remember darklad? Even when slammed with facts, he would still remain a complete dumbass. Remember, you can reason with a retard all you want, it doesn't mean he's going to understand you.

At 9/15/05 12:27 AM, Gunter45 wrote:

:There was another guy like that on here before, anybody remember darklad? Even when slammed with facts, he would still remain a complete dumbass.

We have a lot of people on here just like him now. One that springs to mind is marchingtyrants. That dude friggin hates Americans and Jews for some reason.

At 9/15/05 12:27 AM, Gunter45 wrote: I'm sorry to correct you here on a couple points, but here goes. Nobody else developed nuclear power. The Russians stole the technology from us and the rest is history. Also, we didn't know how powerful the bombs were when we dropped them. Those were our trial runs, so to speak.

If we want to be uber technical though the theories on which the technology was developed were those of Albert Einstien a German. However, we were smart enough to snatch him up and develop his technology. Actually it's the same story with the scientists who built the rockets that got us to the moon. Of course they all became naturalized American citizens so technically... well there in lies the stupidity of trying to generalize every single occupant of a country.

At 9/14/05 06:04 PM, Nomader wrote:

At 9/14/05 05:44 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote:

At 9/13/05 10:34 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:
And we all know how much fun it is to judge people before you meet them and get all self righteous on their ass for disagreeing with you.

Did you read my earlier posts? I said I've been to America many times, and seriously America is not filled with smart people, or for that matter average minded people.

I obviously don't know where you visited - Americans are just as good and hardy race as any I've seen (I've been out of the US so you know... not like I could base my opinion on Canada cause one american's there)

In my idea, if you have a problem with something in America, why don't you talk to Congress about it? I'm sure that they'd never hear your call

And on top of it all, why don't you convince your country to invade America? They wouldn't - because America has developed its own weapons to the point where no other country is as highly technological in that standpoint - and Americans developed it... my you haven't met the brighter minds of our society...

Most inventions are stolen and adjusted. How hard is it to guess that a faster firing machine gun could kill more people? How hard is it to design a rocket with longer range by, get this, giving it a bigger fuel tank? Christ you people have bad arguments. I'm not against or with patriots or racists, and personally I think that unless you are bright you're retarded. HOW MANY BRIGHT PEOPLE ARE IN ANY COUNTRY? To quote Einstein, countries are the 'measles' of the human race, as they breed patriots and racists. Both kinds of people can go die.

come on, we all no it wasnt "americans" who invented the A-bomb, or rockets or any of that stuff. it was Germans, they may have been invented in america, but thats because u gave their scientists the choice of working for u or dying..

of course not all americans are stupid, there are many very inteligent americans and some of the best universitys in the world are there but america as a country is very young and the majority of its intelectuals have been people fleeing persecution in their own country or just people lookin for more money in the "land of opportunity".

its just that that is the sterrotype of americans, fat stupid people, same as irish bein drunk leprechauns, english bein football holigans with bad teeth and the germans bein power hungry, super efficient nazis.

At 9/15/05 12:03 PM, PhysicsMafia wrote: come on, we all no it wasnt "americans" who invented the A-bomb, or rockets or any of that stuff. it was Germans, they may have been invented in america,

Really, I must admit I didnt know America played no role in the Manhattan project. Not only were most of the people involved in it American, many of the key players in it were American.

What other countries added were some of the leaders and key players, not all the materials and the lions share of the technicians.

but thats because u gave their scientists the choice of working for u or dying..

Thats Russia, nice try buddy. Werner von Braun and Einstein and whoever never were forced at gunpoint to work.

At 9/15/05 11:57 AM, DarbySniper wrote: To quote Einstein, countries are the 'measles' of the human race, as they breed patriots and racists. Both kinds of people can go die.

Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.
The World as I see it (1934) [This attribution may be wrong]

Nice. He may have not even said it, on top of the fact you completly got the message wtong.

At 9/14/05 11:50 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote: ^Typical American Jackass.

^Typical Canook Jackass.

has anybody looked at "SOVIET GUY"'s profile....it seems that he doesn't like americans and thinks they are stupid...but he listens to redneck mullet-rock like godsmack and metallica.

i just thought that was kinda weird.

also, yeah....if you haven't already, "soviet guy", give up....you haven't even offered an argument....and all of your counter-points to arguments are either false, self-defeating, or plain assumptions....go post on a canadian board if you are so displeased with america..

...also, sorry if i offended any REASONABLE canadians with my earlier remarks....i was just mad at the one jackass that is representing your country.

At 9/15/05 12:03 AM, Blackhawkdown wrote: We're not hated by everyone. We are on fairly good terms with a lot of countries. Here's a few Russia, Japan, China, England, Canada, Isreal, and Australia. And the list goes on and on.

Oh I'm sorry, see from what I know those countries hate you very much.

But of course I wouldn't know any better, I'm just a man who has lived in Russia and visited Central Europe, and also a man who has growned with Europeans around him, and who is also 100% European himself, oh yes, my opinion on this matter means shit, oh yes, even though I talked to like a hundred people while in Europe who all agreed the United States is bullshit.

At 9/15/05 04:26 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote: But of course I wouldn't know any better, I'm just a man who has lived in Russia and visited Central Europe, and also a man who has growned with Europeans around him, and who is also 100% European himself, oh yes, my opinion on this matter means shit, oh yes, even though I talked to like a hundred people while in Europe who all agreed the United States is bullshit.

Ive said this a thousand times, if your country hates America why don't you all stop accepting American aid, and food. Why don't you just elect a nice dictator and let him control your thoughts for the next 60 years. Big deal we went to war in Iraq, where less people have died than in any other war to date and we removed a dictator who killed thousands of people who had different religios beliefs than him. But I guess that was just evil America starting wars for no reason at all.

As for your worldly opinions why don't you stop sucking your own dick and post a relevant argument you fucking tit.

At 9/15/05 04:26 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote: my opinion on this matter means shit

I happen to think the malformed opinions of an angry bigot are, indeed, "shit." But that's just me, and that's all the time I'm going to spend on you, there are better things than trying to reason with a thick-skulled moron, like nailing my balls to a dog.

The post I am about to comment on I believe is the funniest post I have ever read. Ever.

At 9/14/05 11:45 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote: If an American says his country is great and points out a few facts he thinks is accurate, then why would other Americans disagree? The majority of people here are Americans, end of conversation.

Okay, the U.S. did not land on the moon in 1969, that has been proven by the actual film that was taken on the moon, the flag waved when there is in fact no air in space, also, America never proved they got up there, in fact the first picture taken of the U.S. flag on the moon by another country was in 1972 when a Soviet Satelite passed by, it is believed that the United States in fact landed on the moon not on the Appolo 11 mission but on the third or fourth mission to the moon.
Considering the fact that the United States said it would land on the moon before the decade was out and did so 5 months before the 1970s arrived, wow, how timely, eh?

#1 - You haven't looked at that - the flag definitly didn't wave. And, the flag could wave if the astronaut had hit the cloth - then it would move indefinitly - however, it was in the ground.
#2 - Very timely - it's something called a timeline - I don't know if you Canadians/soviets know what it is.
#3 - Even if that is so - America than first landed on the moon - but it did land first, what your saying is crap.
#4 - Are you saying the millions of dollars we've poured into NASA - and all we've got are lies?
#5 - Why the hell would I care if a satellite saw it when we have film of it numerous times? Plain and simple, it's the only flag you'll see there.

As for the matter of atomic energy, okay, um, let me think, there's at least 20 countries now that have atomic energy, you idiots, and as for the atomic bomb, you never used it, oh I;m sorry, oh yes you used it against 100,000 Japanese civilians in two small factory towns, that's real nice.

Um... no - they were the largest cities in Japan, other than Tokyo at the time.
Here's the death tole - (source here ) "The death toll in Hiroshima was 140,000; in Nagasaki, the toll was 80,000."
Make it 200,000 - I believe at the time, that was pretty damn bad - and even today, it would be considered massive.
And uh - you yourself said it - you call them "towns" - that's fine - but we used it, and we have nukes that can practically blow your Canada off the map - I wouldn't be talking about your incredible Canadain Royal Guard up there...

Now, as for you military, oh woo hoo, the United States needs it's military badly, and they cut a lot of funding to keep their military up to date, that's why the U.S. doesn't have health care or social security and a whole bunch of humane shit that every other 1st world country has. The United States could be invaded on four sides, and since it is situated in moderate temperature all year round, that much easier. Now, consider this, if the United States did not have it's military, what would happen? It would probably have more friends instead of now where it goes: " hahaha, we have a strong military, we can kick your ass " and is hated by everyone, oh sorry, you have Israel as an Ally.

#6 - Um... no, we could have it - but we don't want to be like Sweden, where the tax is around 25%...
#7 - Next, invaded on four sides - that's true - we have border patrol, the Navy, marines, national guard, merchant marines, army, special forces, coast guard, air force, and a list that I can continue to add onto. But may I ask, who would invade us? If they try, they see what happens - that's why the American flag never dips - we bow to nobody.
#8 - Yeah... might I remind you we're the wealthiest nation in the World? I'm sure England would love to have our wealth. Maybe Mexico would too? Hell, if you have such a problem with how we run things, why don't you move your fucking ass down here, and come on into some state like Maine, get elected to office, serve in Congress, become President, and disband our military. Let's see how our populace reacts to that. I want you to think back to WWII - abandon the military then - and oops! No more USA!
Go to 9/11 - let's see here - "Oops!" there goes our freedoms - I'm sure I'd love islamic extremists running my country.
And you ask why the fuck we need military... geez...

At 9/15/05 04:26 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote:

At 9/15/05 12:03 AM, Blackhawkdown wrote: We're not hated by everyone. We are on fairly good terms with a lot of countries. Here's a few Russia, Japan, China, England, Canada, Isreal, and Australia. And the list goes on and on.

Oh I'm sorry, see from what I know those countries hate you very much.

But of course I wouldn't know any better, I'm just a man who has lived in Russia and visited Central Europe, and also a man who has growned with Europeans around him, and who is also 100% European himself, oh yes, my opinion on this matter means shit, oh yes, even though I talked to like a hundred people while in Europe who all agreed the United States is bullshit.

Sorry for the double post. I have a few more comments to make.

Why post on an American server? Seriously, you might not be outgunned politically in Europe, but this is not the place to say America is shit.

Also, that's all good and fine. But have you noted that if you took away the US, you'd say goodbye to your PC? We invented the internet I might add.

Have you thought about the fact that America gives the most money and support of any country in the world?

Have you thought about the fact that if it weren't for America, the Berlin Wall would still be ruling the European Spectrum?

Have you thought about the fact that if the US disapeared, the world market would pretty much die?

Have you thought about the fact that if the US disbanded its army, invasion would happen rather quickly?

Have you ever thought about the fact that Bush got re-elected by Americans - not Europeans? Why should foriegn countries tell us how to run ourselves (and if you then say we shouldn't tell other countries that - we aren't. We're letting them choose - Looks like Afganistan will be a democracy, and Iraq will be based on Islam)

This is all...

By the way, why do you care? Don't you have things to do in your own government? Or have you decided to blame us for things we haven't done? No, you have no basis behind your arguments here...

Okay, everything the U.S. created was made from ideas of others, mostly Germany, tanks, nukes, internet, the Germans would have come out with it a couple of years later anyways.

As for being wealthy, when was the last time you looked at the currency rates?

The Euro and Pound are kicking your dollars ass, and plus, Canada is 85 cents U.S. after 2 years, with Katrina and a whole bunch of other shit the Canadian Loonie will be in the 90s. So much for wealth, arrogant bitches.

At 9/15/05 03:44 PM, beelzebuba wrote:

At 9/14/05 11:50 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote: ^Typical American Jackass.

^Typical Canook Jackass.

What's a "Canook"?
I googled it and all I got was some internet user named "canook".

At 9/15/05 03:44 PM, beelzebuba wrote:

At 9/14/05 11:50 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote: ^Typical American Jackass.

^Typical Canook Jackass.

I'm European dumbass, I only live in Canada, or have lived in it for 8 years.