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There are so many punk kids that talk about how poorly America is run and stuff. They are all emos and they just bash Bush because it's fashionable.

I have a message to every greenday-loving-emo that thinks they could run America better than the people that do it now.

It is INCREDIBLY difficult. If you need proof, ask yourself why every other country is worse off than we are. Bush doesn't run America. Geniuses that advise him and other people really run America.

I just wanted all of you emos to know that. Stop disrespecting our President and Government. And no, skating doesnt make you an anarchist..........or cool, for that matter.


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At 9/10/05 11:00 PM, KrazyKool wrote: Geniuses that advise him and other people really run America.

I wouldn't call Karl Rove a genius. Devious, evil, scheming, certainly. Genius, nah.

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What's the point of having freedom--

if people can't make an obvious point that our president has been ineffective.
Just shoot Liberty at the heart-- it will be quicker.

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So you're saying that bush is like the queen of england. No real importance, just something to look at.


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At 9/10/05 11:33 PM, TimeFrame wrote: So you're saying that bush is like the queen of england. No real importance, just something to look at.

I think that sounds about right, tho personally he's not much to look at either.


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At 9/10/05 11:00 PM, KrazyKool wrote: There are so many punk kids that talk about how poorly America is run and stuff. They are all emos and they just bash Bush because it's fashionable.

Actually, I must agree with the majority of this - however, one might say he screwed up in New Orleans - but other than that, I think its a pretty good job he's done.


I have a message to every greenday-loving-emo that thinks they could run America better than the people that do it now.

It is INCREDIBLY difficult. If you need proof, ask yourself why every other country is worse off than we are. Bush doesn't run America. Geniuses that advise him and other people really run America.

Actually, I thought it was Congress and the Supreme Court that ran America... your telling me that now the advisers do that too!?!


I just wanted all of you emos to know that. Stop disrespecting our President and Government. And no, skating doesnt make you an anarchist..........or cool, for that matter.

Lol... well see, although I agree with what you've said, you have one problem with all this - the first amendment, so legally, they have every right to complain about our president... *sighs* - too bad isn't it?

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I have a thing called "Common sense"


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At 9/11/05 12:40 AM, lordkau wrote: I have a thing called "Common sense"

Prove it... for some reason, I have a feeling you can't run the biggest powerhouse in the world. And nor can I.

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Well I think Australia's better (especially as we didn't go through that little thing called a recession) but that's beyond the point. It may be difficult, but Bush's administration could do a much better job. People attack Bush because he's the figurehead of what they're against, so they have every right to say what they want about him. The fact he's incompetent is also a good reason.

Just sayin'...


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At 9/11/05 01:23 AM, beejrawk wrote: Well I think Australia's better (especially as we didn't go through that little thing called a recession) but that's beyond the point. It may be difficult, but Bush's administration could do a much better job. People attack Bush because he's the figurehead of what they're against, so they have every right to say what they want about him. The fact he's incompetent is also a good reason.

Just sayin'...

I can see your point - and by Consitutional Right, everyone can protest... however, the only major screwup I've (in my own opinion) seen the Bush Administration do, is do crap in New Orleans and Gulfport... etc. - we know they could've done much better.

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Wow, a 14 year old who's job is "fuckin authority" is calling people "punk kids". And what exactly is your problem with Green Day? Are you mad because they sold millions of albums that question their own country? I think they're great, and have been for more years than you've been around, so shush.
But to answer your question, yes, if I had the amount of people working for me as Bush does, and vacationed as much as Bush does, I'm sure I would do a fine job.

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I don't like Bush because he is too religious. That normally wouldn't be bad whatsoever, but he lets it affect his decisions.

Furthermore, I believe he approached Iraq in a wrong way.

I dislike Bush. However, there can easily be far worse presidents (Pat Robertson).

It would help if you were more mature.

I really find the government doing some things that I find outrageous. For example, going against ACLA and Geneva Convention agreements.


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wow you mean bush is doing a great job, i just guess that the iraq war, recession, and the overall disrespect of the government is great then.

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At 9/10/05 11:00 PM, KrazyKool wrote:
It is INCREDIBLY difficult. If you need proof, ask yourself why every other country is worse off than we are.

Yeah i remember that when London got flooded by a huge hurricane, Birmingham's Bull Ring was hit by terrorists in planes, people got shot in Manchester cause we allow guns and huge amounts of criticism because of our large scale involvement in the Iraq war... we're definatly worse off than america O_o

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many ppl would assume that they coould do a better job than bush..but personally i wouldnt want the responsibility...too much pressure


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At 9/10/05 11:00 PM, KrazyKool wrote: There are so many punk kids that talk about how poorly America is run and stuff. They are all emos and they just bash Bush because it's fashionable.

Im not emo, i dont bash Bush because its fashionable; i bash Bush because hes incompetant


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At 9/10/05 11:00 PM, KrazyKool wrote: There are so many punk kids that talk about how poorly America is run and stuff. They are all emos and they just bash Bush because it's fashionable.

Well there's bashing Bush because it's fashionable, or because he's incompetent.
I actually think it's more based on the latter because well, have you been watching the news? First big mistake I can remember from the bush admin, was probably the Iraq War and I think most people can agree, that was a big mistake. And then there was that girl in a persistant vegetative state, and now Katrina. It seems that the president couldn't envoke the power of state on New Orleans to help, because New Orleans wasn't in a persistant vegetative state. Who cares if the govener said to stay back, any retard could have seen that they did NOT have everything under control.

I have a message to every greenday-loving-emo that thinks they could run America better than the people that do it now.

I don't think I would like to run America, and Bush has his daddy to help, I might not do a better job myself, but I'm certain somebody else could. I know to run it like Bush I'd only need to know things like "But we're making progress.", "I understand how people feel and they have every right to complain but he still has WMD's.", "Saddam didn't have WMD's but he himself is a WMD so I think we're making progress.", and "God help America." Fairly simple but if you disagree whatever. Now to the reall point in this, what the fuck do you have against Green Day? They have done nothing wrong, all they have done is sold a quadriple platinum album, with a title against right-wings, the album contains many anti-war statements and the band thinks Bush is a bad president and shouldn't be in office, everybody can think what they want about Bush, even Bush says so (look in one of the above quotes you work it out) Green Day has had amazing success from this album considering they we'rent very mainstream since 1994, but that doesn't make everybody who dislikes bush an emo punk wannabe that likes them.

It is INCREDIBLY difficult. If you need proof, ask yourself why every other country is worse off than we are. Bush doesn't run America. Geniuses that advise him and other people really run America.

Geniuses eh? Would you say the head of the FEMA advised Bush rightly on Katrina, a week later, because Brown was quoted as saying "We only learned about the disaster factually today." Factually? So I guess until a week after it was just some kind of myth. Yup Geniuses.

I just wanted all of you emos to know that. Stop disrespecting our President and Government. And no, skating doesnt make you an anarchist..........or cool, for that matter.

We can do whatever the f*ck we want, and everybody is entitled to my opinion.


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Why has green day become the official stupid american band? I am just curious why everyone hates them.


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At 9/11/05 11:57 AM, Freemind wrote: Why has green day become the official stupid american band? I am just curious why everyone hates them.

Because so many right-wing nuts (not insulting right-wings in general just the ones who cry about american idiot) take the new album title too seriously, and start bitching that they are emo punk wannabe's just cuz they disagree with their thoughts. So when I disagree with conservatives I become an America hating anarchist. That's how the world works, and when its the other way around and Liberals get insulted, then we say they're wrong, we because emo Green Day lovers. I'm happy to be a Green Day lover, I love Green Day. Vote for Billie Joe.


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At 9/11/05 12:09 PM, FadeEntertainments wrote:
At 9/11/05 11:57 AM, Freemind wrote: Why has green day become the official stupid american band? I am just curious why everyone hates them.
Because so many right-wing nuts (not insulting right-wings in general just the ones who cry about american idiot) take the new album title too seriously, and start bitching that they are emo punk wannabe's just cuz they disagree with their thoughts. So when I disagree with conservatives I become an America hating anarchist. That's how the world works, and when its the other way around and Liberals get insulted, then we say they're wrong, we because emo Green Day lovers. I'm happy to be a Green Day lover, I love Green Day. Vote for Billie Joe.

I see, people have to lighten up, it's just a song. I like some of green days songs and I like playing their stuff on my guitar. They are a pretty good band. Emo's annoy me though.


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At 9/10/05 11:00 PM, KrazyKool wrote: There are so many punk kids that talk about how poorly America is run and stuff. They are all emos and they just bash Bush because it's fashionable.

Yes. *Sigh* I'm the most emo kid there is. I have a scarf and everything. Shove it.

I have a message to every greenday-loving-emo that thinks they could run America better than the people that do it now.

It is INCREDIBLY difficult. If you need proof, ask yourself why every other country is worse off than we are. Bush doesn't run America. Geniuses that advise him and other people really run America.

Only a fourteen year old can make that mistake. Who do you think appoints the advisors? Who do you think signs the bills and sends our soldiers off to war? The President. He is the most powerful man in the country and you're saying we shouldn't hold him accountable for New Orleans, Iraq, continuing needless tax cuts for the rich, a declining economy, and (soon enough) Roe vs. Wade being overturned? You're nuts!

I just wanted all of you emos to know that. Stop disrespecting our President and Government. And no, skating doesnt make you an anarchist..........or cool, for that matter.

Well, I know for a fact that I could do a better job. First of all, I'd hire people that had experience in the fields they're applying for rather than hiring my old friends, I'd stop cutting taxes, I would wait for some real intelligence before going to war in the Middle East, and I would have responded as soon as the Governor of Louisiana asked me to before, during, and after Hurricane Katrina. I would also take less vacations and I wouldn't base a campaign on abortion and gay marriage for my second term. I'd fund stem cell research and I'd also start overfunding research for alternate fuel sources. Yes. I would do a better job. But that's not the point. The point is that we had two other candidates that could have done better and stupid assholes without any common sense chose the fetus-loving, Gay-hating Christian once again!


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At 9/11/05 12:16 PM, Freemind wrote:
I see, people have to lighten up, it's just a song. I like some of green days songs and I like playing their stuff on my guitar. They are a pretty good band. Emo's annoy me though.

Ya I agree, people just dont get it, emo is annoying, and Green Day is fun to play on guitar, plus playing their drumming is awesome.


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You say this as though Bush is powerless to do anything, when he's most definitely not. He gets veto power, he has a congress with a majority that would follow him lemming-style off a cliff, a UN ambassador he proved he could appoint whether the nation wanted him to or not, and now two Supreme Court nominations to make, one of them Chief Justice.

And yes, I could do a helluva lot better. Why? Because I care for the welfare of this entire nation, not just the people I like and can relate to. I value human life beyond its fiscal benefit, and I don't think with my religion, my class, or my daddy's buddies. I'm not saying I would ever be a fit president, but a genetically-engineered monkey could do what he's done and be a lot more eloquent about it.


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Prove it... for some reason, I have a feeling you can't run the biggest powerhouse in the world. And nor can I.

Nor can George Bush.

I, however, could. Want me to prove it? Elect me then


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America (theoretically) isn´t run by one person and never should be. The idea behind democracy is that it is government run by the people for the people through elected representitives. Now that is bullshit. Unfortunatly we have been, duped, cheated, lied to, abused, and even denied our civil liberties. you want proof, go look at the price of gas and wonder how oil companies can claim a shortage and still have the best fiscal year they have ever had. Go find mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, aunts, uncles, friends, ect... who have lost loved ones and for what. invisble weapons that dont exist. Go to New orleans and ask them how much help they have recieved from our wonderful government. It is not the responsiblity of one person to make things right. it is the responsibility of every person who is a citizen of the U.S. to work together to make this a better country. Our biggest fault is our apathy towards everything not involving money. It is this apathy that causes most of the world to resent us and why things like sept 11 happen. So you want to bitch about how much this country sucks but you dont want to work to make it better then enjoy our current government or get the fuck out.


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Give me a moment...so let me take in this argument. Because one criticizes something, they have to be able to do better?...hmm...wow, so what you are saying is, when we see a man that cannot do his job, unless we are willing and able to replace him, we are to follow him blindly into his absurd mascarades and listen to all of his lies?

And no, its not fashionable...its realistic. Fashionable would mean people are doing it because its a trend that has nothing to back it up...but you see, that would be a blatant lie. In fact, there are so many reasons why one should dislike that monkey, that there is a 45 page thread in this very forum, outlining his moronic exploits and lies and he is being lambasted by the cowardly news media itsself for his shortfalls as a President on the news as we speak.

Whereas you may be quite confident following a man who is obviously not very bright (Yes...I say in full confidence I am more intelligent that George Walker Bush, as well as the majority of people I know...), who lies to, steals from, and cheats his own citizens, in order to kill tens of thousands of innocents and sacrifice the lives of thousands of Americans for an unsure motive; there are those of us who are not. Not surprisingly, I and a good deal of intelligent informed individuals, are among these people.

Now I on the other hand will NOT claim that I could run this country better than Bush, I have not been raised and taught the ways of statecraft and politics in-depth enough...but I am 100% sure there are an overwhelming amount of politicians who could. Bush is a disgrace to this country for an incredible list of reasons...one of the minor ones among them being; he is such a terrible speaker, I, the average American citizen am stereotyped as stupid, because he sets such an example. If I were to have a man in presidency who I much disliked, I would much rather him not have the vocabulary of a twelve year old.

Bush is possibly the worst President since Nixon, the only difference is, apathetic, uninformed individuals in our society are too afraid to speak out against him. Bush's name, whether many would like to admit it or not, will go down in history with a myriad of very bad occurences, includng the Downing Street Memo, Curveball, Hurricane Katrina, and Karl Rove; and mostly likely, a short list of good occurences, chief among them, his speech at the twin towers after 9/11, nothing much better.

I do not support Bush, and I am overwhelmingly happy to see that others are joining in to the growing crowd and noticing his pathetic downfalls as a leader.


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I've been hating Green Day since before it was cool.


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At 9/10/05 11:00 PM, KrazyKool wrote: And no, skating doesnt make you an anarchist..........or cool, for that matter.

No, but it is fun.


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At 9/11/05 12:29 AM, Nomader wrote: Actually, I thought it was Congress and the Supreme Court that ran America... your telling me that now the advisers do that too!?!

America is run by three institutions, of which the president is only head of one. All three institutions are fighting for power and will continue to until one takes it all.


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At 9/10/05 11:00 PM, KrazyKool wrote: There are so many punk kids that talk about how poorly America is run and stuff. They are all emos and they just bash Bush because it's fashionable.

I have a message to every greenday-loving-emo that thinks they could run America better than the people that do it now.

It is INCREDIBLY difficult. If you need proof, ask yourself why every other country is worse off than we are. Bush doesn't run America. Geniuses that advise him and other people really run America.

I just wanted all of you emos to know that. Stop disrespecting our President and Government. And no, skating doesnt make you an anarchist..........or cool, for that matter.

Fiuu, I underestand your point, but there is just one thing u have wrote too much.

If you need proof, ask yourself why every other country is worse off than we are.

Uhm, so, for u, america is the best country in the world? Wow, just think a bit, who created america? Mainly because of England and Spain. If it weren't for those country, america would not exist. And u know why it is so good ? Because many settlers went there, looking for a new life, for a new future, and, as it was the new country, "el nuevo mundo", it started from zero, but, of course, with the technology of the rest of the world. Now, think about this.


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