Forum Topic: WTF HAPPENED TO THE NG PORTAL ?

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Posted at: 10/21/02 09:56 AM

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Holy shit. Ever since Wade implemented that new voting feature that keeps track of 'Blam' and 'Protection' points, it seems as if almost EVERY movie submitted, regardless of how shitty it is, has gotten rated the 'decent green' color. Don't get me wrong, there were still some movies that have turned 'red' before being Blammed, but only because everyone who had voted on it had pretty much agreed that it probably was a shitty movie to begin with.

Even bad movies are getting posted with 'excellent blue' color.

WTF is going on? Is everyone that desperate to gather all of these Blam/Protection points?

Not only that, but now you can choose whether or not you want to be 'Light' 'Dark' or 'Neutral'?

I think that being given the ability to choose your alignment really sucks.

Wade always seemed to be stating/stressing things like "Some people intentionally give movies bad votes or ratings just so they can achieve the 'Dark' status...." or something to that effect, pretty much saying summing up the moral of 'voting fairly' instead of 'voting to get a certain alignment'.

It would seem that Wade just contradicted his own views and opinions by implementing this new Blam/Protection point system, as you can already see it's effects on the NG Portal.

So now, instead of 'voting to get a certain alignment' like 'Dark', people are voting to get Blam/Protection points.

If you ask me, the NG Portal is even WORSE off NOW than it was previously.

Does anyone else feel the same way as I do?

Does anyone else feel strongly against my views?


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I think it was a good idea but, i think you are also right not only are the movies getting blammed faster but people are just racking up the blam/protection points, its just another goal for people to strive for unwittingly joining th emeaniless existance of life and following the pointless views of everyone else, i mean if you going to vote actually watch the movie and vote fairly damnit!


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At 10/21/02 10:01 AM, ChaoticDesign wrote: I think it was a good idea but, i think you are also right not only are the movies getting blammed faster but people are just racking up the blam/protection points, its just another goal for people to strive for unwittingly joining th emeaniless existance of life and following the pointless views of everyone else, i mean if you going to vote actually watch the movie and vote fairly damnit!

I agree with you about 'people following the views of everyone else'. Everybody is entitled to their own opinions, but when something is being forced upon us without much of our say in it, doesn't that kind of seem unfit?

I'm sure that there will be people flaming my post, saying crap like "if you don't like the changes, leave!" or "NG is free so stop complaining!"..... I've heard all that before, so try to come up with a better argument.

Besides, anyone that says comments like that, totally avoided my questions. Why? Because they probably had nothing better to say.

As for your take on the 'meaningless existence of life', I think we'll only be able to truly answer that question once we've died. It's a shame really..... just like the old saying: "Dead men tell no tales"


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Posted at: 10/21/02 03:51 PM

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Well its nice to know that you gave it a chance...oh wait, its not even a week old. Jesus christ, give it time to see if it works.

Anyway, i know i used to just vote 0 on 5 random movies to get my daily xp and get a dark aura cause i liked the red better than the blue, now i actually watch the movies.


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Not only that, but now you can choose whether or not you want to be 'Light' 'Dark' or 'Neutral'?

just an attempt to make more room in the server so things can run faster.


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At 10/21/02 03:51 PM, ResidentEmo wrote: Well its nice to know that you gave it a chance...oh wait, its not even a week old. Jesus christ, give it time to see if it works.

Anyway, i know i used to just vote 0 on 5 random movies to get my daily xp and get a dark aura cause i liked the red better than the blue, now i actually watch the movies.

Duffman says a lot of things. OH YEAH!


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At 10/21/02 04:04 PM, jakeyboy89 wrote: Duffman says a lot of things. OH YEAH!

You have made everyone in this post dumber, Mr Madison....


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i think i made everyone dumber by reading my insane rant.. hehe


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At 10/21/02 04:07 PM, ResidentEmo wrote:
At 10/21/02 04:04 PM, jakeyboy89 wrote: Duffman says a lot of things. OH YEAH!
You have made everyone in this post dumber, Mr Madison....

hhehhehe


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At 10/21/02 09:56 AM, GunPanther wrote: Holy shit. Ever since Wade implemented that new voting feature that keeps track of 'Blam' and 'Protection' points, it seems as if almost EVERY movie submitted, regardless of how shitty it is, has gotten rated the 'decent green' color. Don't get me wrong, there were still some movies that have turned 'red' before being Blammed, but only because everyone who had voted on it had pretty much agreed that it probably was a shitty movie to begin with.

Even bad movies are getting posted with 'excellent blue' color.

WTF is going on? Is everyone that desperate to gather all of these Blam/Protection points?

Not only that, but now you can choose whether or not you want to be 'Light' 'Dark' or 'Neutral'?

I think that being given the ability to choose your alignment really sucks.

Wade always seemed to be stating/stressing things like "Some people intentionally give movies bad votes or ratings just so they can achieve the 'Dark' status...." or something to that effect, pretty much saying summing up the moral of 'voting fairly' instead of 'voting to get a certain alignment'.

It would seem that Wade just contradicted his own views and opinions by implementing this new Blam/Protection point system, as you can already see it's effects on the NG Portal.

So now, instead of 'voting to get a certain alignment' like 'Dark', people are voting to get Blam/Protection points.

If you ask me, the NG Portal is even WORSE off NOW than it was previously.

Does anyone else feel the same way as I do?

Does anyone else feel strongly against my views?

I AGREE COMPLETELY

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Stop wasting your time with bullshit like protection points and new status badges and all that crap that just gheys everything up and concentrate more on MAKING THE BBS NOT GIVE ERRORS and also mabye this little thing i seem to remember called PICO 2???? OMG YEAH THAT THING


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I AGREE COMPLETELY

Note to NG staff:

Stop wasting your time with bullshit like protection points and new status badges and all that crap that just gheys everything up and concentrate more on MAKING THE BBS NOT GIVE ERRORS and also mabye this little thing i seem to remember called PICO 2???? OMG YEAH THAT THING

LOL OMGOMG


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At 10/21/02 07:20 PM, Superabound wrote:

Note to NG staff:

Stop wasting your time with bullshit like protection points and new status badges and all that crap that just gheys everything up and concentrate more on MAKING THE BBS NOT GIVE ERRORS and also mabye this little thing i seem to remember called PICO 2???? OMG YEAH THAT THING

Yeah that's kind of true. Instead of fixing things which really don't need fixed, maybe they should take the time to fix the things which DO need some fixing. The voting system was fine before, but yeah it had some flaws (like people sitting around waiting to get blams and voting one sided to get a new aura). Now though, people still go to those extremes, and yes, horribly crappy movies get over the top, undeserving scores. Wade can't possibly not notice how every fucking movie on the portal has a colored box around it, which is supposed to represent good quality. Yeah, not instead of having a crappy movie blammed, it gets a green highlight, and still sits there. Explain that Wade.

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I AGREE COMPLETELY

Note to NG staff:

Stop wasting your time with bullshit like protection points and new status badges and all that crap that just gheys everything up and concentrate more on MAKING THE BBS NOT GIVE ERRORS and also mabye this little thing i seem to remember called PICO 2???? OMG YEAH THAT THING

NG unfortunatly, like almost everything else is going towards looks and hooks instead of quality and just decent, uncencored, disgusting, revolting, stupid, crazy, pointless, exciting, scary, fun flash.


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At 10/21/02 10:56 PM, PyROmAnIAc30 wrote:
I AGREE COMPLETELY

Note to NG staff:

Stop wasting your time with bullshit like protection points and new status badges and all that crap that just gheys everything up and concentrate more on MAKING THE BBS NOT GIVE ERRORS and also mabye this little thing i seem to remember called PICO 2???? OMG YEAH THAT THING

NG unfortunatly, like almost everything else is going towards looks and hooks instead of quality and just decent, uncencored, disgusting, revolting, stupid, crazy, pointless, exciting, scary, fun flash.

I guess I really shouldn't complain, since I AM having fun with this new system, but at the same time I'm still opposed to the change. Oh well.

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I am tired of reading this same "complaint". Check out the blamed movies compaired to movies submitted. The bad movies are being deleated very quickly. I do agree that some movies have gotten much higher scores then they deserve but those movies are pretty high quality. Although this system isnt perfect i think it is better then the old one.


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At 10/21/02 11:02 PM, Testerline wrote: I am tired of reading this same "complaint". Check out the blamed movies compaired to movies submitted. The bad movies are being deleated very quickly. I do agree that some movies have gotten much higher scores then they deserve but those movies are pretty high quality. Although this system isnt perfect i think it is better then the old one.

maybe protection points should be gotten rid of, they are really just so ppl don't only vote bad on movies, but some ppl do anyway, like hitler


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At 10/21/02 11:07 PM, PyROmAnIAc30 wrote:

maybe protection points should be gotten rid of, they are really just so ppl don't only vote bad on movies, but some ppl do anyway, like hitler

HEIL!!!

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At 10/21/02 11:07 PM, PyROmAnIAc30 wrote:
maybe protection points should be gotten rid of, they are really just so ppl don't only vote bad on movies, but some ppl do anyway, like hitler

The flaw is that people dont realize that you dont have to vote 5 to get a protection point. If you give it higher than a 1 you get a protection point. Everyone just votes 5 now because they want a protection point and if you vote higher it is more likely to stay in. So anytime people see a decent movie it gets a 5.


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At 10/21/02 11:12 PM, Testerline wrote:
At 10/21/02 11:07 PM, PyROmAnIAc30 wrote:
maybe protection points should be gotten rid of, they are really just so ppl don't only vote bad on movies, but some ppl do anyway, like hitler
The flaw is that people dont realize that you dont have to vote 5 to get a protection point. If you give it higher than a 1 you get a protection point. Everyone just votes 5 now because they want a protection point and if you vote higher it is more likely to stay in. So anytime people see a decent movie it gets a 5.

hmm thats a good point...

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The flaw is that people dont realize that you dont have to vote 5 to get a protection point. If you give it higher than a 1 you get a protection point. Everyone just votes 5 now because they want a protection point and if you vote higher it is more likely to stay in. So anytime people see a decent movie it gets a 5.

but u just pointed out how thats not really a flaw, because in the beggining u say "people dont realize that you dont have to vote 5 to get a protection point"
but in the end u said "Everyone just votes 5 now because they want a protection point and if you vote higher it is more likely to stay in." those are contradicting


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At 10/21/02 11:24 PM, PyROmAnIAc30 wrote:
The flaw is that people dont realize that you dont have to vote 5 to get a protection point. If you give it higher than a 1 you get a protection point. Everyone just votes 5 now because they want a protection point and if you vote higher it is more likely to stay in. So anytime people see a decent movie it gets a 5.
but u just pointed out how thats not really a flaw, because in the beggining u say "people dont realize that you dont have to vote 5 to get a protection point"
but in the end u said "Everyone just votes 5 now because they want a protection point and if you vote higher it is more likely to stay in." those are contradicting

You know, I think PyROmAnIAc30 forgot to use the word 'some' as in "some people". I'm sure he didn't mean to contradict what he was saying, although I can see how it would be confusing.


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At 10/22/02 07:21 AM, GunPanther wrote:
At 10/21/02 11:24 PM, PyROmAnIAc30 wrote:
The flaw is that people dont realize that you dont have to vote 5 to get a protection point. If you give it higher than a 1 you get a protection point. Everyone just votes 5 now because they want a protection point and if you vote higher it is more likely to stay in. So anytime people see a decent movie it gets a 5.
but u just pointed out how thats not really a flaw, because in the beggining u say "people dont realize that you dont have to vote 5 to get a protection point"
but in the end u said "Everyone just votes 5 now because they want a protection point and if you vote higher it is more likely to stay in." those are contradicting
You know, I think PyROmAnIAc30 forgot to use the word 'some' as in "some people". I'm sure he didn't mean to contradict what he was saying, although I can see how it would be confusing.

Oops. I meant Testerline, NOT PyROmAnIAc30. My mistake.


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At 10/21/02 11:24 PM, PyROmAnIAc30 wrote: those are contradicting

That is incorrect.


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I agree that movies are not geting voted properly people just blame befor even fucking looking at them !
Its truly discusting that something you put lots of efort into and people just fucking blam it straight away, although i have not delt with this, i proble will soon when i send my first flash in ohwell i atleast hope that these posts can stop this terrible new voting system that is destroying peoples egos ( he he he) yeah any way i agree what most of you are saying and hope that something can be done

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At 10/21/02 11:02 PM, Testerline wrote: I am tired of reading this same "complaint". Check out the blamed movies compaired to movies submitted. The bad movies are being deleated very quickly. I do agree that some movies have gotten much higher scores then they deserve but those movies are pretty high quality. Although this system isnt perfect i think it is better then the old one.

Yes the blammed movies for yesterday was like 600 something, as opposed to around 80 submitted. OBVIOUSLY the movies getting blammed arent JUST the new crappy movies submitted.

People are going back in the archives and just blamming the shit out of old movies, just to rack up points.

As soon as all these people run out of old movies to blam, theyre gonna have nothing to do besides vote 5 on everything in existance, the only time they vote 0 is if they think that movie has a high chance of being blammed, otherwise they vote 5.

IM TELLING YOU PEOPLE, THIS NEW VOTING SYSTEM WILL BE THE DOWNFALL OF NEWGROUNDS


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At 10/22/02 09:07 AM, Superabound wrote:
At 10/21/02 11:02 PM, Testerline wrote: I am tired of reading this same "complaint". Check out the blamed movies compaired to movies submitted. The bad movies are being deleated very quickly. I do agree that some movies have gotten much higher scores then they deserve but those movies are pretty high quality. Although this system isnt perfect i think it is better then the old one.
Yes the blammed movies for yesterday was like 600 something, as opposed to around 80 submitted. OBVIOUSLY the movies getting blammed arent JUST the new crappy movies submitted.

People are going back in the archives and just blamming the shit out of old movies, just to rack up points.

As soon as all these people run out of old movies to blam, theyre gonna have nothing to do besides vote 5 on everything in existance, the only time they vote 0 is if they think that movie has a high chance of being blammed, otherwise they vote 5.

IM TELLING YOU PEOPLE, THIS NEW VOTING SYSTEM WILL BE THE DOWNFALL OF NEWGROUNDS

You know what Superabound? You've got a point.

I've sided with you before. It's time I sided with you again.


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At 10/22/02 11:35 AM, GunPanther wrote:
At 10/22/02 09:07 AM, Superabound wrote: IM TELLING YOU PEOPLE, THIS NEW VOTING SYSTEM WILL BE THE DOWNFALL OF NEWGROUNDS
You know what Superabound? You've got a point.

I've sided with you before. It's time I sided with you again.

I dont think that the new system is that bad. I have seen more people on newgrounds in the past week then i have in the past month. Obviously more people like the changes to the site then dislike them. Whatever brings people to the site i think is a good change.


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Does anyone else feel the same way as I do?

Yeah. I tried to post a big thing of me bitching about all the CRAP with high votes, but it didnt go through. You did it before me, but i agree. Im gonna submit a peice of ass and watch its score...

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