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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 08:00 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 07:03 PM, WadeFulp wrote:
At 10/13/02 06:39 PM, JordanCastillo wrote: I like the idea of the voting system, but when we vote a second time, we dont get a blam or protection point, but does our vote still count?
You can vote as many times as you want (once a day of course), but only the first vote is recorded, and that is the vote that will be used to determine if you get a point or not. Say you see a movie that's okay, but you want to be a dick and give it a 0. Then you come back the next day and see it's not going to be blammed so you vote 2 or higher so you get a protection point. Well, you won't, because you originally were a bastard and voted 0 and don't deserve a protection point. :) The same goes if you vote 5 on crap to try and keep it from being blammed, and then you come back the next day and see it's going to be blammed anyway and vote 0 or 1. You won't get a point, because your first vote was unfair. :) This will hopefully encourage people to watch a submission and give an honest vote. They can still vote however they want, they just might not get a point, which wouldn't be a big deal to some people. However, some day these points might turn into Ground Gold points or something. :)

and as for the auras, unless you plan on having a large selection of colors that dont mean anything, i dont think you should change it because it shows how they think of flash works.
If we make them selectable, we'll probably just keep them Dark, Neutral, and Light. User's can pick whichever they feel portrays their personality. Maybe we could add more, or make it more like AD&D. Like Evil, Chaotic, Good, etc.

but 3d_french_fry made me think of something, we dont get grounds gold for just being logged in anymore do we?
You have to vote on 5 movies a day to get Experience points.

More auras would be cool.

Chaotic should have a yellow background, lawful should have a purple.

I think, however, that choosign your aura is a bad idea. How about if you vote with the crowd on movies, you eventually obtain a lawful aura. If you vote 5 on crap and 0 on good movies, you develop a chaotic aura.

I've always wanted to see a "Movies blammed" count in the profiles, too(how many movies made by the author that have been blammed). This could, however, encourage spammers to want to increase the count...

Third, I feel bad juju from the accuracy system.

Finally, BBS user of the day should be recorded in one's profile. It gives those of us who don't use flash a chance to feel special with our own award :)

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 08:03 PM Reply

Put the "Jump to a random portal entry" option on the main page of the portal, and on the page where you can view, review and vote on the entry. Also, put it and the other options you normally get while voting on the voting results error screen. Even if there is an error, I still want to jump to another entry.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 08:08 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 08:00 PM, dragonzrtite wrote: who made lesbians kissing?

Well, the person who submitted it didn't technically "Make" it unless he was the one holding the camera


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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 08:42 PM Reply

After I signed in and voted for a movie, I went to watch another and Newgrounds says I wasn't logged in at the time, when actually I was. I voted and it still said I wasn't logged in. SO wawawaa.Enough of my bitchin. Just try clearin up the logging on shit please if that's cool wth you guys.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 08:44 PM Reply

Do NOT let us choose our aura. That'll end up with everyone choosing dark auras. Do something, but DON'T let us choose. Getting rid of them entirely would be a better idea than that.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 08:56 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 06:12 PM, sketch0587 wrote: I think the protection/blam points idea is great, and i also think we should be able to choose our auras. keep up the good work!

I also think this is a good idea,I help to blam alot of movies, but I hardly get any credit. I also agree with the auras, let people select witch one they want to have.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 08:57 PM Reply

Wade, i was wondering if there will ever be a way that you can be notified if an author respondes to your review, if there already is, then just disregard this.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 09:09 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 06:06 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Very shortly we will be implementing some changes to the voting system. As many of you know we check a movie's score at the 25th, 50th, 75th, and 100th vote. If the score falls below the current check points threshold it is BLAMMED! In the past we had only rewarded the user who casts the deciding vote the BLAM point. We have decided this was unfair to everyone else who contributed in BLAMMING a movie. So now when you log in and you vote either 0 or 1 on a movie and it ends up getting BLAMMED, you will receive a BLAM point! Currently users hold back their vote to try and be the one to get the BLAM point. This causes the Portal to be less efficient. With the new system users will be encouraged to vote as quickly as possible or risk losing their chance at a point!

On the other side of the coin, users voting 2-5 on a movie that doesn't get BLAMMED will be rewarded with a PROTECTION point. We may come up with a snazzier term for this down the road, any suggestions? So if you vote 0 on a good movie, you may risk getting no points as all! Also if you vote 5 on a crappy movie, you will risk losing a point.

The first vote you cast is the vote that will be recorded in our system. This means you better watch the submission and submit an honest vote, as you can't come back the next day and submit a different vote to try and get a point.

We are also debating what to do about the auras. We have found a lot of people vote 0 on good movies just to get a DARK aura. Should we just let users select whatever aura they want in their user settings? Let us know what you think! Also be sure to continue to report bugs you find by leaving a comment to this post, or LilJim's previous post! Thanks!

I say we pick our Auras from the start when configuring our user profiles and such. And, credit to Brave Yankee for the idea, how about designed user icons for certain races?
We select what race we are: Asian, Black, White, etc. and our icons reflect that somehow. Just shooting the idea out there.
I can't wait to see the changes!

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 09:11 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 06:06 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Very shortly we will be implementing some changes to the voting system. As many of you know we check a movie's score at the 25th, 50th, 75th, and 100th vote. If the score falls below the current check points threshold it is BLAMMED! In the past we had only rewarded the user who casts the deciding vote the BLAM point. We have decided this was unfair to everyone else who contributed in BLAMMING a movie. So now when you log in and you vote either 0 or 1 on a movie and it ends up getting BLAMMED, you will receive a BLAM point! Currently users hold back their vote to try and be the one to get the BLAM point. This causes the Portal to be less efficient. With the new system users will be encouraged to vote as quickly as possible or risk losing their chance at a point!

On the other side of the coin, users voting 2-5 on a movie that doesn't get BLAMMED will be rewarded with a PROTECTION point. We may come up with a snazzier term for this down the road, any suggestions? So if you vote 0 on a good movie, you may risk getting no points as all! Also if you vote 5 on a crappy movie, you will risk losing a point.

The first vote you cast is the vote that will be recorded in our system. This means you better watch the submission and submit an honest vote, as you can't come back the next day and submit a different vote to try and get a point.

We are also debating what to do about the auras. We have found a lot of people vote 0 on good movies just to get a DARK aura. Should we just let users select whatever aura they want in their user settings? Let us know what you think! Also be sure to continue to report bugs you find by leaving a comment to this post, or LilJim's previous post! Thanks!

I think these are all great ideas! The blamming and protection point idea is superb and should really help! The one who thought of that deserves a raise. But that'll also take away the glory of having blam points. However, if users select their aura then the entire idea of the aura has to be changed. Of course it wont be about how you vote. It'll be what kind of person you'd like to be known as. Oh well. Still all very good ideas.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 09:17 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 07:52 PM, TheJoe324 wrote: Yeah, I agree, you shouldn't be punished because you like or don't like a certain movie. If someone gets a bunch of people to vote up his flash or uses multiple accounts to give it a high score, people will be afraid to vote it down because there is a chance it will survive. Then they will get hurt for trying to do the right thing.

No one is being punished. You are free to vote as you wish. In most cases if you vote fairly you should get a point, but there will be cases where you do vote fairly and other's don't, and you may not get a point. That's just the breaks, but you don't get punished or lose any points. The good points of the new system out weigh the bad, and that's what we have to focus on.


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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 09:19 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 08:00 PM, dragonzrtite wrote: who made lesbians kissing?

Dude, stop flooding this thread with your off topic dribble or you won';t have an account to spam from! Lesbian kissing was a MPEG porn movie imported into Flash and submitted. This broke our guidelines so it was deleted.


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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 09:21 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 08:44 PM, D-Fens wrote: Do NOT let us choose our aura. That'll end up with everyone choosing dark auras. Do something, but DON'T let us choose. Getting rid of them entirely would be a better idea than that.

Oh no, God forbid everyone had a dark aura! What does it matter? I know a lot of people that would want to chose nuetral, and other's light. Like it would change NG if more people had dark auras? Come on.


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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 09:58 PM Reply

Wow, I think these new changes you're considering would be great. I'm getting excited already and nothing's happened yet!

The PROTECTION points thing would be awesome. Why praise people for getting blams when we could acknowledge ones who are saving good flash? Also, the way you want to change the blamming/protection system is cool. There's been lots of times I've held off my vote just to get the deciding one. Its a real pain. This new system would be good because I'd still get credit, even if I vote earlier on. I liked the one suggestion of calling the protection points Shield points too. Either that, or Guardian sounds cool.

About Auras: I think letting us choose our own would be best. Right now, lots of people seem to be voting one way or the other just to get a new aura. There's also a lot of people who are comfortable with neutral, and are trying to hold off on going to an extreme, to avoid getting a different aura. If we could choose, it'd be a lot more convenient, and we wouldn't have to change out voting routine just to get a new aura. I'm not too sure about adding more auras though. Gold, Platinum, Evil, Good, Chaotic, or whatever would be cool, but its almost too many. Oh well, its up to you though.


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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 10:10 PM Reply

How will the new voting system affect voting on old portal submittions?

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 10:42 PM Reply

How can everyone get so excited over some different voting options when it take over 5 mins just to get on the site and another 5 mins to get a movie to load. The NG staff should be working on getting the servers in better working shape before thinking of adding more flashy stuff to clog up the bandwith

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 10:56 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 06:06 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

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We are also debating what to do about the auras. We have found a lot of people vote 0 on good movies just to get a DARK aura. Should we just let users select whatever aura they want in their user settings? Let us know what you think! Also be sure to continue to report bugs you find by leaving a comment to this post, or LilJim's previous post! Thanks!

Okay, I think we should choose our auras. But not at the beginning like add this option in when you become like.... uh... i dunno level 10. So that way They can have a good feel of how NG works and what good flash is. what else..... Oh yeah, maybe if someone submits like a whole bunch of bad flash movies.... (cough)seizure(ahem)could it be possible to take away points??... (hmmmm that might be a bad idea). One more thing. Instead of protection points call them Savior points.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 11:04 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 08:00 PM, dragonzrtite wrote: who made lesbians kissing?

SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP CLOGGING THE MESSAGE BOARD YOU HORNY LITTLE KID!

By the way, I agree that we should choose our aura colors, and I also think it would be cool if you could choose a signiature portal character to represent you: Pico, Scrotum, Dave, Beebo, whatever. Most of the good ones are in Portal Fighter 2, but there are still more out there (From My Room guy, Scarecrow, Polar Rescue Penguin).


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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 11:15 PM Reply

Yo un ban me from your chat room this is inconvient I didnt flood seriously i didnt i was not doing a thing i got baned with out warning to I would of stoped if some one asked me to stop what I was doing which was not flooding oh well ack guess im out of luck at the moment well unban me if you will

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 11:30 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 06:06 PM, WadeFulp wrote:
On the other side of the coin, users voting 2-5 on a movie that doesn't get BLAMMED will be rewarded with a PROTECTION point. We may come up with a snazzier term for this down the road, any suggestions? So if you vote 0 on a good movie, you may risk getting no points as all! Also if you vote 5 on a crappy movie, you will risk losing a point.

i think its a good idea since a lot of people dont care if a movie is good as long as they get experience. dont call them anything like Savior, Shield, Guardian, blah blah blah because then it seems like we're doing the author a favor by keeping it alive. if its a good flash and deserving of being there then why should we feel special by voting high and being that movies "Guardian". keep what you call it toned down and youre set.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 11:30 PM Reply

I think choosing auras is ok. I vote in accordance to what I feel the movie deserves. so what if more of the movies I vote on make the top 50 rather than being blammed? I consider myself neutral.

The protection/Guardian/whatever points would probably result in a "Justice Club" or something (like the blam club) that helps good movies get good scores and bad movies get blammed. or even just let good movies getting bad reps by jokers or gangs recover. so I think they are a good idea too.

more ways to get EXP than voting, and referrals (which leads to people creating multiple accounts to refer to when submitting crap movies) would be cool. I have been on here for 3 years and missed a good 8 months of exp last year because I lost interest in them. (resulting in not voting after viewing)

I'm sure whatever you guys do to the site will work out just fine. Keep up the excellent work.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 11:32 PM Reply

What the hell are auras?

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 11:36 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 11:32 PM, CartwheelingBones wrote: What the hell are auras?

The color on the background of your level icon.

Red = Dark
Green = Neutral
Blue = Light

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 11:46 PM Reply

Oh my god. I disapper from NG for 1 month and my popularity sinks 42,000 slots.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 11:47 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 11:46 PM, Ice_Demon wrote: Oh my god. I disapper from NG for 1 month and my popularity sinks 42,000 slots.

my bad. I ment 62,000 slots

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 11:55 PM Reply

Nobody likes Aegis :( (shield of Zeus here people)
how about Golem (same thing as a guardian)?
Invulnerable
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Seems like Shield is going to win...
Aura selection.... seems fine to me. I'd rather have custom/user level icons. Maybe have a monthly contest to change an official Lvl icon for the next month but you could still load up your own if you prefered.
My last suggestion (i'll go back to silence after this) is there a limited amount of changes permitted? Sure would be nice to have all of them, but that may not be possible.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 14th, 2002 @ 12:28 AM Reply

Is the new voting system the reason I keep getting:

Error - the server is under extreme load at the moment and is unable to deal with your request. Please check back later!

I don't think Ive ever gotten that message before, but as soon as this new system is up it starts happening (Possibly because of the fact that it logs your account every time you vote)


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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 14th, 2002 @ 12:52 AM Reply

I think that letting people pick their own Aura is a good idea, becuase then it will stop people from unfairly voting againts good movies which should get much better votes than what they are.
That would probably help alot with the protals and getting the really opions that people have for a movie other than them trying to get a Good or Bad Aura.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 14th, 2002 @ 12:53 AM Reply

I think its a great i dea..but i relitivly new at this so i dont hav a clue what ne of this is lol :S

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 14th, 2002 @ 12:56 AM Reply

At 10/14/02 12:28 AM, TheJoe324 wrote: Is the new voting system the reason I keep getting:

Error - the server is under extreme load at the moment and is unable to deal with your request. Please check back later!

I don't think Ive ever gotten that message before, but as soon as this new system is up it starts happening (Possibly because of the fact that it logs your account every time you vote)

I get the extreme load message as well, then when i click refresh it says i dont have latest version of something and gives me a link. even after i downloaded it 5 minutes ago.

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Response to Enhanced voting system! Oct. 14th, 2002 @ 12:57 AM Reply

I don't like the ideas.