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The Democrats Suck Oct. 7th, 2002 @ 11:48 AM Reply

The democrats suck and are ruining American ideals.

What do you think about this issue?

http://yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=759&;mode=thread&order=0

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Response to The Democrats Suck Oct. 8th, 2002 @ 06:57 AM Reply

At 10/7/02 11:48 AM, P-Chan wrote: The democrats suck and are ruining American ideals.

What do you think about this issue?

http://yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=759&;mode=thread&order=0

Well as that article puts it. The democrats and the republicans, What's the difference? they both suck and they are both dangerous.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Oct. 10th, 2002 @ 03:55 AM Reply

they both suck and they are both dangerous.

word...

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Response to The Democrats Suck Oct. 12th, 2002 @ 07:44 PM Reply

This is why I like Canada. We have three dumbass parties, one wannabe dumbass party, and one party that's so blindingly stupid it makes you want to cry.

But at least they're different . . .

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Response to The Democrats Suck Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 06:27 AM Reply

At 10/12/02 07:44 PM, ManicCanuck wrote: This is why I like Canada. We have three dumbass parties, one wannabe dumbass party, and one party that's so blindingly stupid it makes you want to cry.

But at least they're different . . .

elaborate... im too american to know about them. im very interested though.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Oct. 13th, 2002 @ 04:13 PM Reply

At 10/12/02 07:44 PM, ManicCanuck wrote: This is why I like Canada. We have three dumbass parties, one wannabe dumbass party, and one party that's so blindingly stupid it makes you want to cry.

But at least they're different . . .

The differnce between a republican and a democrat?
A Republicans suck, and Democrats blow!
According to Louis Black

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Response to The Democrats Suck Oct. 14th, 2002 @ 01:00 PM Reply

Okay, our three dumbass parties are the liberals (exactly like democrats), progressive conservatives (exactly like republicans), and Canadian Alliance (ultra-conservatives).
Then we have the NDP (socialists), which is okay, i guess, and the Bloque Quebequois, which seems to feel Quebec is the only province worth representing. Right now, though, the liberals are the only party with a chance of winning, which means legalized marijuana next election.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Oct. 19th, 2002 @ 08:29 PM Reply

At 10/14/02 01:00 PM, ManicCanuck wrote: Okay, our three dumbass parties are the liberals (exactly like democrats), progressive conservatives (exactly like republicans), and Canadian Alliance (ultra-conservatives).

Are you sure about this?!? If you look at the general political climate of Canada, you'd see were're further to the left than the Americans.

The Liberals and the Democrats exactly alike? I don't think so! When our Prime Minister said publically that the policies of the West are causing much misery in the world Joe Clark, the Conservative Party Leader, agreed! It was Harper (the Reform MP) who wanted an apology.

The Canadian political system makes it so that the individual MP must tow the party line more. This leads to far less variation within a party than in the states. In the US, you can have Democrats who, for all intensive purposes are like Republicans. (Just take a look at Texas or Ohio).

Then we have the NDP (socialists), which is okay, i guess, and the Bloque Quebequois, which seems to feel Quebec is the only province worth representing. Right now, though, the liberals are the only party with a chance of winning, which means legalized marijuana next election.
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Response to The Democrats Suck Oct. 23rd, 2002 @ 09:47 PM Reply

At 10/12/02 07:44 PM, ManicCanuck wrote: This is why I like Canada. We have three dumbass parties, one wannabe dumbass party, and one party that's so blindingly stupid it makes you want to cry.

But at least they're different . . .

Guess what? we have more then 3 parties... but they dont all run all over the whole country, they are provincial parties...

Last election in Nova Scotia (my provience) there was a party called the: marijuana party. Their goal was to legalize weed, too bad they didn't win :(

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Response to The Democrats Suck Oct. 23rd, 2002 @ 09:50 PM Reply

At 10/14/02 01:00 PM, ManicCanuck wrote: which means legalized marijuana next election.

Let me clarify this, it is for medical use only...While the marijuana party in Nova Scotia just wants to legalize it ~completely~...<---much better

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 3rd, 2002 @ 06:51 PM Reply

At 10/23/02 09:50 PM, The_Raven wrote:
At 10/14/02 01:00 PM, ManicCanuck wrote: which means legalized marijuana next election.
Let me clarify this, it is for medical use only...While the marijuana party in Nova Scotia just wants to legalize it ~completely~...<---much better

It should be legal here in the U.S. We are wasting tax money and time arresting responsible pot smokers. Prohibiting marijuana isn't doing anything but creating drug crime. Besides, marijuana is much safer than alcohol.

I'm not a liberal by any means, but marijuana prohibition isn't stopping anyone from using. It's time to start looking for other approaches to the war on drugs.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 4th, 2002 @ 09:46 AM Reply

I wished you'd back up a comment like that. Anyway I don't even believe that we have a democracy anyway. It's all a firs. We don't really have a say in anything. There is only one choice for pres and that's one who is back by corporations. A normal person will never get in to office. Most of the presidential canidents aren't even on the ballets. And this isn't the worst thing. The worst thing is 90% of the people here don't even care...

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 4th, 2002 @ 01:29 PM Reply

At 11/4/02 09:46 AM, Jettison wrote: There is only one choice for pres and that's one who is back by corporations. :

Wrong. The only choices are those men who are backed by either the Republican or Democrat parties. It's the parties that are backed by corporations.

Personally, I'm glad this is so. The parties regulate and filter out complete dumbasses. In order to rise through the ranks, you have to prove that you're capable, typically by holding various minor offices, such as mayor, state representative, state senator, national representative, national senator, governor, etc. In order to rise to the higher offices, one typically has to be well educated. Of course, having a father that was a former president or senator doesn't hurt, but if Joe Schmoe busts his ass, gets himself through college, climbs the ladder of the offices, and can prove to his party that he is capable and popular enough with the people, they'll back him.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 4th, 2002 @ 09:31 PM Reply

At 10/7/02 11:48 AM, P-Chan wrote: The democrats suck and are ruining American ideals.

What do you think about this issue?

http://yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=759&;mode=thread&order=0

Three things...

1) I hate political pessimests who claim the "political experiment" will go out in a blaze. It's been used so much it's cliche. It's in balance so leave in alone and appriciate it.

2) Prove to me any neglect on part of anyone in America related to not aiding a country in need. It's not a challange, I'm sure it's everywhere on the Internet, espically enquirer.com. You say we do these things, yet never have I seen it backed up. Hmm...
Prove to me any involvment between the Holocaust and the Catholic Church and I'll listen to you. I know it's totally unrelated to what I'm talking about, but hey, I'm bored.
Perhaps by focusing on our country we can help all the Americans in poverty or the parts of the world where people fear to tread and crime thrives. I'm sorry but I think I care more about these people.

3) Do you perfer that I be some oilsucking cheating Republican carrying around a sign saying "MORE TAX CUT$ FOR THE RICH!" or "ONE MORE SEAT!" and wear a funny elephant suit made out of the people I put out of jobs? No Mr. President, I don't think so. Republicians don't give a shit about the regular guy and drive Capitalism to the summit of it's greed. They ruin democratcy as far as I can tell, and although I'm not really a Democrat (I don't trust large crowds. Anxiety and high school teach you that.) I perfer Democrate over Republician and I have my reasons. Think about it.

If I see one person put a Jim Talent sign on my yard I'll rip off their arm and beat them with it.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 4th, 2002 @ 09:44 PM Reply

At 11/4/02 01:29 PM, Randolph wrote:
At 11/4/02 09:46 AM, Jettison wrote: There is only one choice for pres and that's one who is back by corporations. :
Wrong. The only choices are those men who are backed by either the Republican or Democrat parties. It's the parties that are backed by corporations.

Personally, I'm glad this is so. The parties regulate and filter out complete dumbasses. In order to rise through the ranks, you have to prove that you're capable, typically by holding various minor offices, such as mayor, state representative, state senator, national representative, national senator, governor, etc. In order to rise to the higher offices, one typically has to be well educated. Of course, having a father that was a former president or senator doesn't hurt, but if Joe Schmoe busts his ass, gets himself through college, climbs the ladder of the offices, and can prove to his party that he is capable and popular enough with the people, they'll back him.

A president who did coke in Yale and passed in flying colors than dodges 'Nam by asking his Daddy to put him in the National Guard and only showed up half the time then buys the Texas Rangers, resells them, becomes Governor and become leader of the fuggin' free world only to turn on the National Debt clock again and finish what his Daddy started and is possibly connected with 9/11 just to find himself an enemy just to become the war hero and win the 2004 election doesn't seem very fair, now does it? If Joe isn't a rich white Christian that gained attention and publicity somehow and has plenty of friends in high places willing to put him above their positions (under certain conditions, of course) and doesn't have any way to counter-attack whatever tricks his opponent has up their sleeves then he doesn't have a chance in hell, does he? Sad but true, my friends. Takes a shitload to make it in life and some were born to lose. Maybe that'll change someday if decency makes a comeback, but it won't happen soon. Keep prayin'.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 5th, 2002 @ 03:26 PM Reply

At 11/4/02 09:44 PM, Paul138 wrote:

...is possibly connected with 9/11...:

I was going to write a rational response debunking your claims, until I read that, which made it apparent that you are a fucking idiot.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 5th, 2002 @ 04:47 PM Reply

At 11/5/02 03:26 PM, Randolph wrote:
At 11/4/02 09:44 PM, Paul138 wrote:
...is possibly connected with 9/11...:

I was going to write a rational response debunking your claims, until I read that, which made it apparent that you are a fucking idiot.

I said possibilty, as in conspiracy theories. I'm slightly facinated with that so I decided to mention it. I didn't say "MY GOD DUDE, BUSH, AND THAT FUCKING CHUNEY, THEY'RE ALL IN ON IT MAN! THEIR FUCKING KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE TO WIN THE NEXT ELECTION DUDE! tHEY'VE GOT THAT FUCKING TUNNEL FROM VEGAS TO MINNESOTA THAT HIDE THE ALIEN SPACESHIPS, AND THAT'S WHY REGAN HAS ONLY ONE FUCKING NUT! dON'T YOU GET IT! WERE ALL FUCKED!!!!!!!!! ::GOES TO CORNER AND COMPLUSIVELY SHAKES::" If I said that, then yes, I would be a total fucking idiot.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 5th, 2002 @ 04:52 PM Reply

Ok, what everyone is saying is that we are screwed either way right. I mean you guys are started to sound like them. Long wind bag speachs that don't help much and never gets to the point. You circle the point, we basically know the point but you never really touch it and explain it completly. Damn now am doing that.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 6th, 2002 @ 05:41 AM Reply

I guess I agree to that. Where I come form My State is usually democratic, But few pockets of conservatives. But I dicided to be indendant,Becuase I don't agree with either party completely. I guess you guys can call me moderate.'cuase I'm dancing on the fence on that Left-Right Scale.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 6th, 2002 @ 02:15 PM Reply

At 10/13/02 04:13 PM, iOcide wrote:
At 10/12/02 07:44 PM, ManicCanuck wrote: This is why I like Canada. We have three dumbass parties, one wannabe dumbass party, and one party that's so blindingly stupid it makes you want to cry.

But at least they're different . . .
The differnce between a republican and a democrat?
A Republicans suck, and Democrats blow!
According to Louis Black

According to Jello Biafra, The democrats are on the inside what the republicans are on the outside.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 10th, 2002 @ 05:16 PM Reply

At 11/5/02 03:26 PM, Randolph wrote:
At 11/4/02 09:44 PM, Paul138 wrote:

I was going to write a rational response debunking your claims, until I read that

I'm still waiting.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 10th, 2002 @ 06:17 PM Reply

The democrats suck and are ruining American ideals.

While I agree with the article I don't agree with this nice bit of analysis you have here. How are the democrats ruining American ideals?

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 10th, 2002 @ 10:47 PM Reply

At 11/10/02 06:17 PM, Slizor wrote:
The democrats suck and are ruining American ideals.
While I agree with the article I don't agree with this nice bit of analysis you have here. How are the democrats ruining American ideals?

Guess.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 11th, 2002 @ 10:18 AM Reply

At 10/7/02 11:48 AM, P-Chan wrote: The democrats suck and are ruining American ideals.

What do you think about this issue?

http://yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=759&;mode=thread&order=0

i think it doesn't matter now cause we have the house and senate and white house.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 11th, 2002 @ 11:10 AM Reply

While I agree with the article I don't agree with this nice bit of analysis you have here. How are the democrats ruining American ideals?
Guess.

By.....erm...not taking bribes from big business? Or not taking enough?

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 12th, 2002 @ 02:08 PM Reply

I do agree that Democrats suck, but they aren't exactly ruining American ideals. I think they suck because those bastards want to take more and more of my money to spend on programs that have good intentions but, in my opinion, are fruitless.

Different parties represent different views. We all want life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness - but different people think that those three ideals mean different things, or should be gotten through different routes. So shut up already.

Additionally, the burden of proof lies on the accuser, Paul, so it's up to you to prove that Bush is possibly connected with 9-11.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 13th, 2002 @ 12:02 AM Reply

My opinion: All parties have flaws. If the whole world was smart enough to realize what was right and what was wrong, then the world would be perfect, and we could live in Anarchy, which means total lack of any government.
The laws would be:
"Treat others as you want to be treated."
"Do not kill."
"You shall take full responsibility for your actions."

And the people who would enforce the rules would be the people who were somehow offended or caught the person breaking one of these three rules. Of course, this would never work because, we, as a people, are not perfect, in any way, and we have psychopaths that are sometimes born by chance. In any case, since Anarchy cannot work, we should be a Libertarian government, which means, "Lack of a strong government." The government would be there to hold us together, to make sure that we were all fed n stuff, like, the basics that a government must do to keep a country a country, without interfering in personal lives, and other country affairs. We would be like Australia, distant and uncaring. Let's see.. amount of times America has had war while using Democracy.. lots... amount of times Australia has been in wars while in whatever, but cut off from the rest of the world, so basically libertarian if they wanted, almost none... I choose Libertarian. We would still have a strong DEFENSE though, like, militia... incase people decided to invade us... but trust me, anarchists know how to defend themselves, as do most libertarians (or at least I hope so). Basically, no rules, just keep yourself alive without hurting others or any wrong doing that would be immoral or result in a guilty conciounce (major wicked nasty spelling there) ... that's a good way of thinking, isn't it?

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 13th, 2002 @ 08:31 AM Reply

They all suck but in different ways. In general I tend to be more on the side of the dems when it comes to they're possitions (yes I'm a liberal) but I'll be the first to admit they can't handle money for shit. Where as the reps can handle the cash well enough (what they aren't pocketing) but tend to be business scum. What kind of a choice is this?

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 13th, 2002 @ 05:45 PM Reply

At 11/10/02 10:47 PM, P-Chan wrote:
At 11/10/02 06:17 PM, Slizor wrote:
The democrats suck and are ruining American ideals.
While I agree with the article I don't agree with this nice bit of analysis you have here. How are the democrats ruining American ideals?
Guess.

Gotta love the expert insights and clear defenses. Aaanyway, the article said that those who follow the democrats and say they do it for social improvement are either decieved or lying, and that really does not happen. They're trying to aim in the right direction, but they're delusional and corrupt. As opposed to the Republicans, who never claimed any ties with social reform at all. They're openly corrupt.

So... the article really did not prove its thesis at all. He pretty much states that these ideals are already dead, not that the Democrats are responsible.

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Response to The Democrats Suck Nov. 13th, 2002 @ 07:20 PM Reply

At 11/11/02 11:10 AM, Slizor wrote:
While I agree with the article I don't agree with this nice bit of analysis you have here. How are the democrats ruining American ideals?
Guess.
By.....erm...not taking bribes from big business?

No, that's definetly not it. I'm sure the democrats take plenty bribes from big business. Afterall, they aren't that much different from the Republican party. (Hint hint.)

Or not taking enough?

No that's definetly not it either. Aren't the Democrats the ones who filibuster (sp?) stuff all the time?