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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-04 03:59:12 Reply

Coop watches 23 guys start to overheat their engines on the Malaysian grid, while congratulating:
Haggard: 1,337 Reviews (Audio); 800 Audio Review Responses
lemonsourkid: Gold Whistle
AfroBahamut: Level 33
HeavyTank: Top 600 B/P
byteslinger: 48,000 B/P4
WeirdAlthe3rd: Praporshchik

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At 4/3/10 12:40 PM, Bahamut wrote:
At 4/3/10 04:30 AM, Coop83 wrote:
At 4/2/10 02:32 PM, Bahamut wrote: Shall I start preparing for my retirement and death then? :P
Haven't we already been going on about that, Richie? :P
...Actually, that's true. So what do I do then?

...See below?

It's "Scythe", it says "Scythe" there! It's in the dictionary, Jesus wrote this!
All right then mortal, I can see you're eager to keep your life. How's about I offer you a straight deal?
A deal? Sure, no problem. Great.

How much money have you got in the house?

I think "I am" would have been replaced with "Kevin Bacon is" but I wasn't sure.
Yeah, this is where you speak to me about it ;) I did test posts and deleted them afterwards :P
But I couldn't catch you on April Fools.

News posts? That's how you could have done it ;)

At 4/3/10 05:51 PM, reverend wrote:
At 4/3/10 05:30 PM, sandwich-eater wrote: Tarboy leveled back up to #1
Meh, everyone knows that Adam Philips' works should be #1.

Dear god no. I've been trying for ages to ensure that it isn't.


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At 4/3/10 10:38 PM, WeirdAlthe3rd wrote: YES! I became a Praporshchik! Only 9 more ranks to go.
Considering your account has yet to reach it's first year mark, this is highly impressive. Congrats.

Thank you.

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-04 05:56:25 Reply

Congrats to:
lemonsourkid: Gold Whistle
AfroBahamut: Level 33
HeavyTank: Rank 600 in B/P
byteslinger: 48,000 B/P
WeirdAlthe3rd: Praporshchik

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-04 06:01:53 Reply

God I slept terribly last night.

Again, replies will be postponed to after the exams which I'll be having on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Achievement of the Day
byteslinger: 48,000 B/P

I thought you said that you'd slow down a bit, but you're still going pretty fast there. Congrats anyway on this nice achievement! =)

Congrats to:
HeavyTank: Top 600 B/P
WeirdAlthe3rd: Praporshchik


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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-04 10:53:52 Reply

EXP Update #24 (Easter Special) is now available! Try and find all the easter eggs!

Listening to:

X JAPAN - Blue Blood

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At 4/3/10 02:32 PM, Haggard wrote:
At 4/3/10 12:40 PM, Bahamut wrote: But Steam have some epic sales!
But it's just not the same, man!

So what? Having it digital just saves physical space.

You guess? He IS an egotistical prick!
I don't know him too well, so it's just a guess. :P

No guessing, he took over Newgrounds and made everyone talk about him. How egotistical can you possibly get? It's more egotistical than putting your face on a dollar bill.

You shouldn't have messed up in Slayer's finest moment then.
But I had more important things to do.

Raining Blood is just as important.

At 4/3/10 05:51 PM, reverend wrote: So help me God, if I have to stare at god damn shurikens for one more day; congrats to:

That reminds me, my quadro alts are close to the sais as well. While I'll be away in London tomorrow and getting back home on Tuesday, I'm going to make sure I deposit my alts just so those four don't stay at the shurikens for another day or two.

At 4/3/10 10:56 PM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote:
At 4/3/10 10:25 PM, byteslinger wrote: Just passed 48K total B/P...yay.
Absolutely insane. I can't believe you're only ranked #64 with such stats.

The ranks are rough as hell now. I remember when ramagi had that much B/P when I was new to this site and now we have 63 more users with that amount. Heh, funny that I once wanted to aim for the top spot. If I didn't retire from B/P'ing, I'd probably be #6 right now but I'm much happier with my 7's. :)

At 4/4/10 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote:
At 4/3/10 12:40 PM, Bahamut wrote: ...Actually, that's true. So what do I do then?
...See below?

But that's just avoiding Death. He's gotta take me away sometime.

A deal? Sure, no problem. Great.
How much money have you got in the house?

Oh, none.

But I couldn't catch you on April Fools.
News posts? That's how you could have done it ;)

True but meh, it wasn't much of a big deal anyway.

At 4/4/10 06:01 AM, Auz wrote: God I slept terribly last night.

Same, eczema is a horrible "treat" from God.

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At 4/4/10 07:15 AM, 14hourlunchbreak wrote: Level 25

Hey congrats. Pimp is almost only 1 level away from 60, let's all hope the Fulps will add another 20 or so levels between him and the final level so the experience curve doesn't come back into play.

At 4/4/10 10:53 AM, Bahamut wrote: The ranks are rough as hell now. I remember when ramagi had that much B/P when I was new to this site and now we have 63 more users with that amount. Heh, funny that I once wanted to aim for the top spot. If I didn't retire from B/P'ing, I'd probably be #6 right now but I'm much happier with my 7's. :)

I'm stunned I was ever in the top 50 list at all. Members really are getting more and more tenacious about gaining in B/P rank.

At 4/4/10 11:04 AM, lemonsourkid wrote: This is my 3000th post.

Congrats, here's to another 3000.

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Also, I'm going to attempt to become active once again here in the Wi/Ht lvl up lounge, but I'm not going to be as good with giving congrats out as many of you are.

Also, Happy Easter to everyone. Celebration wise, this isn't one of my favorite Holidays. Top picks are Christmas, Thanksgiving and Halloween. But still, it gives the family an excuse to all get together.

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-04 13:45:47 Reply

33k medal points.

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At 4/3/10 08:24 AM, Odyssic wrote: Congrats to:
Haggard: 1,337 Audio Reviews, 800 Audio Review Responses

Thanks!

At 4/3/10 03:14 PM, Auz wrote: Achievement of the Day
Haggard: 1,337 Audio Reviews, 800 Audio Review Responses

Yet again. I think that's three times in a row now. ^^
Thanks!

At 4/3/10 05:51 PM, reverend wrote: So help me God, if I have to stare at god damn shurikens for one more day; congrats to:
Haggard - 1337 Audio Reviews and 800 Audio Review Responses

Thanks!

At 4/4/10 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: Coop watches 23 guys start to overheat their engines on the Malaysian grid, while congratulating:

Ha! Finally Vettel's car didn't break. ^^

Haggard: 1,337 Reviews (Audio); 800 Audio Review Responses

Thanks!

At 4/4/10 10:53 AM, Bahamut wrote:
At 4/3/10 02:32 PM, Haggard wrote:
At 4/3/10 12:40 PM, Bahamut wrote: But Steam have some epic sales!
But it's just not the same, man!
So what? Having it digital just saves physical space.

That's why it is not the same. You don't have anything physical. I can be sure that I can play the games I bought in 20 years from now (well, provided the hardware doesn't break, of course), but with Steam you can't be sure. What if they shut down their servers?

You guess? He IS an egotistical prick!
I don't know him too well, so it's just a guess. :P
No guessing, he took over Newgrounds and made everyone talk about him. How egotistical can you possibly get? It's more egotistical than putting your face on a dollar bill.

I think putting your face on a dollar bill is more egoistical.

You shouldn't have messed up in Slayer's finest moment then.
But I had more important things to do.
Raining Blood is just as important.

I don't think so, tbh. :P


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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-04 15:03:59 Reply

Brig. General and new max vote power of 10!


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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-04 15:55:26 Reply

Happy Easter everyone!

I'm off the next 7 days, so you may or may not see my face around here.


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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-04 16:21:16 Reply

Oh look, 7,000 experience. Actually that was like three days ago. Joy.

At 4/4/10 10:53 AM, Bahamut wrote: EXP Update #24 (Easter Special) is now available! Try and find all the easter eggs!

I found seven. But two of them are kinda the same.


Request an audio review. I could use some motivation.

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-04 16:41:31 Reply

Also forgot I just got 15k saves with the new BP rank.


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6.66 base voting power.


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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-04 18:56:54 Reply

Finally! I reached my 2,000th post!


Just chillin' like always.

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-04 19:20:55 Reply

Level 35!

Happy Easter! Congrats to:
byteslinger- 48k B/P
WeirdAlthe3rd - Praporshchik
14hourlunchbreak - Level 25
lemonsourkid - 3,000 Posts
HeavyTank - 32k Medal Points
WilhelmTheVampire - 7,000 Exp
SCTE3 - 15k Saves, Brigadier General, and 10.00 Total VP
Rabid-Animals - 6.66 Base VP
VinnyXY - 2,000 Posts

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At 10/6/02 02:56 PM, the-phantom-spancker wrote: IM A LEVEL 35 NOW
SO IM MAKING THIS TOPIC FOR EVERYONE THAT GOES LEVEL UP 10 LET US KNOW
AND JUST 2 TELL ALL U LEVEL 34'S AND UNDERS THAT IM HIGHER THEN U!!
LOL

Me Too!!! :D

At 4/4/10 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: Dear god no. I've been trying for ages to ensure that it isn't.

Oh? I'm sure it's a lot better than Tarboy. What would be your pick of #1 all-time?

At 4/4/10 10:53 AM, Bahamut wrote: That reminds me, my quadro alts are close to the sais as well. While I'll be away in London tomorrow and getting back home on Tuesday, I'm going to make sure I deposit my alts just so those four don't stay at the shurikens for another day or two.

Any thing and everything to get out of that horrid level of 34/5. Not that I have anything against throwing stars but I was so burned out of it several weeks ago.

At least it's over now and I really like my new level.


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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-04 19:58:53 Reply

A few congrats to a few awsome milestones

At 4/3/10 10:25 PM, byteslinger wrote: Just passed 48K total B/P...yay.

Very nice indeed, i see you back there coming up fast, so slow down abit so i can have abit of breathing room hehe, anyways congrats

At 4/4/10 01:45 PM, HeavyTank wrote: 33k medal points.

Very cool, congrats on that, thats something i need to work on as i only have 610 :(

At 4/4/10 04:21 PM, WilhelmTheVampire wrote: Oh look, 7,000 experience. Actually that was like three days ago. Joy.

Aww 7 is always a lucky number, congrats on 7,000 of them though.

At 4/4/10 04:41 PM, SCTE3 wrote: Also forgot I just got 15k saves with the new BP rank.

Very nice indeed, CONGRATS on that one.

At 4/4/10 07:20 PM, reverend wrote: Level 35!

Congrats on the new level, keep it going :)

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-05 05:51:11 Reply

Coop watches the Avalanche breathe a slightest hope of playoff qualification into the team, before congratulating:
14hourlunchbreak: Level 25
lemonsourkid: 3,000 Posts
HeavyTank: 33,000 Medal Points
SCTE3: Birgadier General; 10.00 Total Voting Power; 15,000 Saves
WilhelmtheVampire: 7,000 Experience
RabidAnimals: 6.66 Base Voting Power
VinnyXY: 2,000 Posts
reverend: Level 35

At 4/4/10 10:53 AM, Bahamut wrote: EXP Update #24 (Easter Special) is now available! Try and find all the easter eggs!

I found 3, as discussed last night. I don't like spoilers on the thread, so I removed them ;)

When do you plan on revealing them?

At 4/4/10 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote:
At 4/3/10 12:40 PM, Bahamut wrote: ...Actually, that's true. So what do I do then?
...See below?
But that's just avoiding Death. He's gotta take me away sometime.

Of course. I'd just rather it was a little later.

A deal? Sure, no problem. Great.
How much money have you got in the house?
Oh, none.

What about the three hundred quid on top of the bathroom cabinet?

At 4/4/10 02:10 PM, Haggard wrote:
At 4/4/10 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: Coop watches 23 guys start to overheat their engines on the Malaysian grid, while congratulating:
Ha! Finally Vettel's car didn't break. ^^

Yeah, it was Schumacher's this time :P

Still, a good race for the first two thirds of it, but the tyres are so easy to manage now that they only need 1 stop to do the whole race. Smaller fuel tanks mean more pit stops and therefore closer racing, due to tactics. The FIA should specify the size of the tanks for each race. Slower circuits, like Monaco should have smaller tanks, to get less fuel in and therefore 2 stops minimum

Also, full course cautions for race incidents like accidents, that don't take off the race distance. Red flag if necessary. That's why NASCAR works, because they run so many laps!

At 4/4/10 07:20 PM, reverend wrote:
At 4/4/10 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: Dear god no. I've been trying for ages to ensure that it isn't.
Oh? I'm sure it's a lot better than Tarboy. What would be your pick of #1 all-time?

Ooh, that's a tough call. But here's a few suggestions:

I really can't separate these, as I've watched so many flash over the years. Yes, Bitey of Brackenwood was legendary in how advanced it was, but it hasn't got much better since then. Dashkin wasn't bad, but it's nothing that makes me think "you've upped the bar massively again, Adam." Bunnykill makes me feel that at present, since it's taken the Madness concept and advanced it with smooth, awesome animation.


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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-05 07:30:53 Reply

Oh happy Easter to you all by the way.

I forgot it yesterday, but Easter is not such a big deal at my place. We don't really do stuff like family dinners and all that.

Achievement of the Day
SCTE3: Brigadier General, 10.00 Voting Power

Both very nice. Congrats on these achievements! =)

Congrats to:
14hourlunchbreak: Level 25
lemonsourkid: 3,000 Posts, Level 15
WilhelmTheVampire: 7,000 Experience
SCTE3: 15,000 Saves
Rabid-Animals: 6.66 Base Voting Power
VinnyXY: 2,000 Posts
reverend: Level 35

At 4/4/10 10:53 AM, Bahamut wrote:
At 4/4/10 06:01 AM, Auz wrote: God I slept terribly last night.
Same, eczema is a horrible "treat" from God.

You have eczema?

Luckily I don't have it myself, but my brother does. Doesn't that shit usually get worse at this time of the year or something?

At 4/4/10 02:10 PM, Haggard wrote:
At 4/3/10 03:14 PM, Auz wrote: Achievement of the Day
Haggard: 1,337 Audio Reviews, 800 Audio Review Responses
Yet again. I think that's three times in a row now. ^^
Thanks!

Only counting the days where you had some achievement, yep it's three times in a row now. Congrats on your hattrick :p


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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-05 07:43:06 Reply

Congrats to:
14hourlunchbreak: Level 25
lemonsourkid: 3,000 Posts, Level 15
HeavyTank: 33,000 Medal Points
SCTE3: Birgadier General, 10.00 Total VP, 15,000 Saves
WilhelmtheVampire: 7,000 Experience
RabidAnimals: 6.66 Base VP
VinnyXY: 2,000 Posts
reverend: Level 35

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-05 08:26:17 Reply

Milestone:

27,000 Medal Points

*Gets ever so close to an awesome level*

Fro has really been enjoying the nice weather and has already gotten sun burnt twice now while sayings Congrats To:

RuinedMartyr: 15,000 Medal Points
WeirdAlthe3rd: Top 500 in B/P, Praporshchik
Coop83: 72,000 B/P, 15,000 Medal Points
XwaynecoltX: 28,000 Saves
HeavyTank: 32,000 Medal Points then to 33,000 Medal Points
Odyssic: 17,000 Saves
Kaytee: Top 200 in B/P
sushi13: 9,000 B/P
Oliver: Level 22
dx5231: Captain
dawg25043: Silver Whistle
AndrewGlisson13: 10,000 Total Stats
Matt: Level 39
zimzap: Level 37
Haggard: 1,337 Audio Reviews, 800 Audio Review Responses
lemonsourkid: Gold Whistle, 3,000 Posts, Level 15
AfroBahamut: Level 33
byteslinger: 48,000 B/P
14hourlunchbreak: Level 25
SCTE3: Brig. General, Max Voting Power of 10, 15,000 Saves
WilhelmTheVampire: 7,000 Experience
Rabid-Animals: 6.66 Base Voting Power
VinnyXY: 2,000 Posts

Thanks To:

reverend
Coop83
Odyssic
Auz
And anyone else if I missed them

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At 4/1/10 11:58 PM, idiot-buster wrote: I know i have'nt been around in the past few months, but who is Kevin Bacon?

Kids...

Not to mention the fact that it would have taken a few seconds to look up.

At 4/3/10 01:37 AM, gfoxcook wrote:
BTW, please to stop calling me General gfox, rev and Fro... General (the rank) makes me think of General (the forum), since I've mostly been posting in that shithole of a forum thanks to the beachhead Coop established with his Revolution topic back in January...

Well now that you mention it I see no reason to view you as a superior. You are simply Gfox. General Gfox does have a nice ring to it so if I call you that it's simply to get on your nerves from now on though. :)

At 3/28/10 02:53 PM, Fro wrote: Fro is in a lot of pain. He ate something called a Bitch Steak two days ago. It contains steak, chicken tenders, onion rings, mozzarella sticks, two different types of cheese, marinara sauce, and all on 14 inches of bread... The sandwich hasn't left his body yet even though it's been two days.. while saying Congrats To:
Sounds fucking delicious, man! Pain? More like ecstacy!

Well obviously it tasted good. It was by far one of the best tasting "cheese steaks" that I had ever had in my life. Three days of pain and agony weren't worth the taste though. Next time I'm going to get the french fries that are covered in chicken, hot sauce, ranch dressing, and cheese. That should be easier on my bowels.


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Rev watched a beat down by the Cards; congrats to:
lemonsourkid - Level 15
Fro - 27k Medal Points
GUTHRIE - 20,000 Exp!
LegolaSS - 4,000 Saves

Thanks to:
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At 4/5/10 05:51 AM, Coop83 wrote: Ooh, that's a tough call. But here's a few suggestions:

Pretty interesting group.

I really can't separate these, as I've watched so many flash over the years. Yes, Bitey of Brackenwood was legendary in how advanced it was, but it hasn't got much better since then. Dashkin wasn't bad, but it's nothing that makes me think "you've upped the bar massively again, Adam."

Well you aren't really judging the entire series when you pick the overall number one. I agree that Adam's decision to make Bitye have some sort of backstory in Dashkin was really a poor one, but his works are still outstanding and beyond almost everyone on this site.

Bunnykill makes me feel that at present, since it's taken the Madness concept and advanced it with smooth, awesome animation.

Now there is a great series. I guess if I had to make some pick it would be these:


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Level 41. A little late posting this I know, but I have been away for some time and had a friend doing my daily votes for me, albeit sporadically.

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I just realized, it's my 2nd NG Birthday!

Woot!

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-06 00:20:51 Reply

You passed 21000 B/P! Congrats!

Cool beans !


"Spider pig Spider pig. Does whatever a Spider pig does." quote Homer Simpson

Bob Hope learns the truth!!!!! Best analogy ever! Sig by chubzilla100

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-06 00:46:38 Reply

Just a little something. 19.000 flash reviews

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POXNORA ??? A Very Unique game

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2010-04-06 03:22:52 Reply

Coop prepares to head back to the office, while congratulating:
lemonsourkid: Level 15
Fro: 27,000 Medal POints
GUTHRIE: 20,000 Experience
LegolaSS: 4,000 Saves
gamejunkie: Level 41
Yamor: Private 1st Class
Hacsev: 2nd NG Berfday
vader316: 21,000 B/P
XwaynecoltX: 19,000 Reviews (Flash)

Thank you to:
Fro (x2)

At 4/5/10 04:03 PM, lemonsourkid wrote: Omg that's 2000 days of depositing!

It's actually 1,998 days of depositing ;)

At 4/5/10 07:54 PM, reverend wrote:
At 4/5/10 05:51 AM, Coop83 wrote: Bunnykill makes me feel that at present, since it's taken the Madness concept and advanced it with smooth, awesome animation.
Now there is a great series. I guess if I had to make some pick it would be these:

Some interesting ones you've picked here. Smile is incredibly dark and the way it is portrayed really does get the ideas flowing. Some of these I haven't seen, so I'll have to look into them.


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