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At 10/12/09 07:16 PM, JKMonkey wrote:
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All the list makers, good job as usual guys

^^ meant to say,

Thanks to:
All the list makers

Sorry guys, havent slept in 3 days


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At 10/12/09 03:03 PM, reverend wrote: I'm guessing a class had to post their projects on NG for an assignment. I feel sorry for the ones I had to Blam. O.o

You shouldn't feel sorry for therm - they really shouldn't have made movies that sucked, should they. On that scale, Bahamut's good enough to have a degree in animation, while people like Stamper and Adam Phillips should be Ph.D. in the subject.

At 10/12/09 04:07 PM, schneelocke wrote:
At 10/11/09 01:36 PM, Coop83 wrote: Hooray, you're perfectly nice and normal then :)
*snerk* I think that's the first time I've been called THAT. :)

Get used to it :P

At 10/12/09 05:47 PM, Hacsev wrote: Hacsev still waits for Coop to answer his PM.

That's low man. Just for that, I'm not going to answer it :P

Right, time to get myself to work.

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At 10/12/09 03:03 PM, reverend wrote:
At 10/12/09 09:44 AM, Auz wrote: Anybody has any idea what's with the flood of "This is my first"-submissions in the portal? I've never seen the portal this busy on a Monday afternoon.
"Hi everybody, I am new to newgrounds. I have joined newgrounds because it's for an university project.
Thanks everybody, :-D"
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/51 4283
I'm guessing a class had to post their projects on NG for an assignment. I feel sorry for the ones I had to Blam. O.o

Lol. Yeah I wonder if their grade is gonna be based on their NG score. If so, then I doubt many of them got a pass :p


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Hey guys, just swinging by to let you know I have reached Level 23.

Also, first post in almost 3 weeks, just shows how inactive I've gone thanks to college.

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Your experience gave you a voting power of 6.78 votes. Your blam and protection points gave you an additional 18% of your experience power, meaning that your total vote power was worth 8 votes!

wow, along with that boost from my rank, I can now vote with a power of 8, nice.......

voting power of 8 ftw.


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I finally got employed yesterday (news post about it) but I misheard one thing and work itself doesn't start just yet, so I didn't even have to come in today but I did because I assumed so. Ah well.

Listening to:

Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables

At 10/12/09 01:36 PM, Haggard wrote:
At 10/12/09 01:23 PM, Bahamut wrote: Then Metallica clearly had no idea what they were doing at the time.
I guess we'll never know. At least the main riff of the song is nice.

Main riff is rather bland.

You could do further research and find out it's actually true. Either way, Manowar hates Metallica.
Just because Joey said it, doesn't mean it's... oh wait!
And I know why Manowar hates Metallcia: They're jealous. :P

They could care less about popularity. They just don't like Metallica whether they're popular or not.

Got further than I did. I closed the tab after 1 nanosecond. XD Here's a new challenge:
Manowar. XP
I won't click that link. :P

Then you instantly fail. I could easily listen to that ten times over.

At 10/12/09 05:23 PM, jake-thesnake wrote:
I can't think of anything else important.

You could always stay the hell away from here.

At 10/13/09 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: You shouldn't feel sorry for therm - they really shouldn't have made movies that sucked, should they. On that scale, Bahamut's good enough to have a degree in animation, while people like Stamper and Adam Phillips should be Ph.D. in the subject.

What? I don't think I'm that good at animation. I'm piss poor in comparison to many. If I was less lazy with my 100th flash, then maybe I could agree with you. However, my life hasn't exactly headed for a high level of animation. It could have been if there was more confidence with my art skills back then. Perhaps there's a parallel universe where that actually happened to me. :P

Still obsessed with Red Dwarf.

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Looks like this place could use some more achievements around here. Only a small one today, but it's a start:

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At 10/13/09 08:54 AM, Bahamut wrote: Listening to:

Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables

Good idea.

Listening to:
Dead Kennedys - Holiday In Cambodia

At 10/12/09 01:36 PM, Haggard wrote:
At 10/12/09 01:23 PM, Bahamut wrote: Then Metallica clearly had no idea what they were doing at the time.
I guess we'll never know. At least the main riff of the song is nice.
Main riff is rather bland.

But not as bland as Manowars only riff.

You could do further research and find out it's actually true. Either way, Manowar hates Metallica.
Just because Joey said it, doesn't mean it's... oh wait!
And I know why Manowar hates Metallcia: They're jealous. :P
They could care less about popularity. They just don't like Metallica whether they're popular or not.

I didn't say they are jealous of Metallica's popularity. They are jealous of their song writing skills. Because even the worst Metallica song is a masterpiece in comparison to any song by Manowar.

Also, I don't think Metallica could care less if Manowar likes them or not. -.-

Got further than I did. I closed the tab after 1 nanosecond. XD Here's a new challenge:
Manowar. XP
I won't click that link. :P
Then you instantly fail. I could easily listen to that ten times over.

I instantly win, because Manowar sucks.

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At 10/12/09 01:36 PM, Haggard wrote:
You're too young then. :P

I must be as I never saw/heard of him before, but it also might have something to do with me never enjoying wrestling or watching wrestling either. Oh and while I'm here...

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At 10/13/09 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: You shouldn't feel sorry for therm - they really shouldn't have made movies that sucked, should they. On that scale, Bahamut's good enough to have a degree in animation, while people like Stamper and Adam Phillips should be Ph.D. in the subject.

Everyone started at some time, and everyone's first flash sucked (although not everyone necessarily published it)... many of these - the ones I saw, anyway - were still blam-worthy and duely voted on as such, of course, but you're really judging the submissions, not the authors. :)

Get used to it :P

Heh.

At 10/13/09 08:54 AM, Bahamut wrote: I finally got employed yesterday (news post about it) but I misheard one thing and work itself doesn't start just yet, so I didn't even have to come in today but I did because I assumed so. Ah well.

Congrats!

At 10/13/09 10:46 AM, Coop83 wrote: 7,500 Medal Points

Congrats. Also, I probably really should read up on what this actually means. :) (Yes, I know, I asked about medals before, quite a while ago, but the only thing I really remember is that I didn't manage to get any. c.c)

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At 10/13/09 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: Coop prays that his car will start on this battery at least once more, while

Alternator troubles?

You shouldn't feel sorry for therm - they really shouldn't have made movies that sucked, should they. On that scale, Bahamut's good enough to have a degree in animation, while people like Stamper and Adam Phillips should be Ph.D. in the subject.

-Student: I tried submitting my flash to Newgrounds twice but it hasn't appeared yet.
-Prof: F!

But really, I don't think any of them mentioned what class it was for. I'm pretty sure it wasn't animation 101 or at least hope not. Ha!

At 10/13/09 08:54 AM, Bahamut wrote: I finally got employed yesterday (news post about it) but I misheard one thing and work itself doesn't start just yet, so I didn't even have to come in today but I did because I assumed so. Ah well.

Congrats dude!

Can I borrow 20 bucks?

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At 10/13/09 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote:
At 10/12/09 05:47 PM, Hacsev wrote: Hacsev still waits for Coop to answer his PM.
That's low man. Just for that, I'm not going to answer it :P

That's low man. Just for that, I'm not going to put you in my thank you list :P


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ugh, Tuesday, the only day worse than Monday

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At 10/12/09 09:13 PM, idiot-buster wrote: I'm depressed.

More like lame for saying such a thing. Also, is 37,000 total points an achievement anyone?

What are these chemicals in my head, that tell me I should be dead?
Cause no-one's this lucky not even the man, who won the lottery again and again.

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Weee The Bronze fist. Level 24 today.
Have fun congratulating me in your next lists people :3

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At 10/13/09 06:45 PM, Aci6 wrote:
At 10/12/09 09:13 PM, idiot-buster wrote: I'm depressed.
More like lame for saying such a thing. Also, is 37,000 total points an achievement anyone?

Lame? How so? Just how i'm feeling yesterday and right now, i really messed up. As for your achievement.....try again.

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At 10/13/09 09:36 PM, idiot-buster wrote:
Lame? How so? Just how i'm feeling yesterday and right now, i really messed up. As for your achievement.....try again.

Yeah, don't worry about him idiot-buster. He tends to be a dick to most people for some reason. As for the achievement usually only special ones count. Every 10,000 points, special numbers such as 11,111 or 22,222, and special ones such as 25,000 - 75,000, etc... would probably be counted, but every 1,000 is just too easy to get.


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At 10/13/09 10:05 PM, Fro wrote: Yeah, don't worry about him idiot-buster. He tends to be a dick to most people for some reason.

Yeah, taking things literally on the internet will give you that impression.

As for the achievement usually only special ones count. Every 10,000 points, special numbers such as 11,111 or 22,222, and special ones such as 25,000 - 75,000, etc... would probably be counted, but every 1,000 is just too easy to get.

Fair enough then, I'll be back in a month or two with 40,000 Total Points. Perhaps longer since my pace is snail-pace.

What are these chemicals in my head, that tell me I should be dead?
Cause no-one's this lucky not even the man, who won the lottery again and again.

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Thanks everyone btw.

I love all you stat whores <3

My whoring shall be dying down for a bit as I prepare to move out then actually move out. So don't watch this space.

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At 10/13/09 06:27 AM, Auz wrote:
At 10/12/09 03:03 PM, reverend wrote: I'm guessing a class had to post their projects on NG for an assignment. I feel sorry for the ones I had to Blam. O.o
Lol. Yeah I wonder if their grade is gonna be based on their NG score. If so, then I doubt many of them got a pass :p

I think passing is possible for them - merit or distinction is a distinct non-starter :P

At 10/13/09 08:54 AM, Bahamut wrote: I finally got employed yesterday (news post about it) but I misheard one thing and work itself doesn't start just yet, so I didn't even have to come in today but I did because I assumed so. Ah well.

Congratulations on this one - you deserve to have a job, now enjoy the money and independence that comes along with it.

At 10/13/09 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: You shouldn't feel sorry for therm - they really shouldn't have made movies that sucked, should they. On that scale, Bahamut's good enough to have a degree in animation, while people like Stamper and Adam Phillips should be Ph.D. in the subject.
What? I don't think I'm that good at animation. I'm piss poor in comparison to many. If I was less lazy with my 100th flash, then maybe I could agree with you.

Seriously, those flash sucked and the ones that got blammed definitely deserved to get that. I think that more of them deserved the same fate as well, but you can't win them all.

However, my life hasn't exactly headed for a high level of animation. It could have been if there was more confidence with my art skills back then.

Well, you're not a bad animator. Lazy, I'll admit, but that's because you're not being pushed with course deadlines. If you were on this 'course', you would shine.

At 10/13/09 03:46 PM, schneelocke wrote:
At 10/13/09 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: You shouldn't feel sorry for therm - they really shouldn't have made movies that sucked, should they. On that scale, Bahamut's good enough to have a degree in animation, while people like Stamper and Adam Phillips should be Ph.D. in the subject.
Everyone started at some time, and everyone's first flash sucked (although not everyone necessarily published it)... many of these - the ones I saw, anyway - were still blam-worthy and duely voted on as such, of course, but you're really judging the submissions, not the authors. :)

Yeah, but if they were embarking on an animation corse, you'd have expected some people on the course to have made something using Flash before and I didn't see any new people posting great stuff, or some old members posting some better than average works on that day, either.

At 10/13/09 10:46 AM, Coop83 wrote: 7,500 Medal Points
Congrats. Also, I probably really should read up on what this actually means. :) (Yes, I know, I asked about medals before, quite a while ago, but the only thing I really remember is that I didn't manage to get any. c.c)

Check out my medals that I've won - they're certainly amongst the easier ones.

At 10/13/09 03:56 PM, reverend wrote:
At 10/13/09 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: Coop prays that his car will start on this battery at least once more, while
Alternator troubles?

We think it could be Battery or Starter Motor. The Alternator is apparently charging the battery, so the recovery bloke said.

You shouldn't feel sorry for therm - they really shouldn't have made movies that sucked, should they. On that scale, Bahamut's good enough to have a degree in animation, while people like Stamper and Adam Phillips should be Ph.D. in the subject.
-Student: I tried submitting my flash to Newgrounds twice but it hasn't appeared yet.
-Prof: F!

ROFL

At 10/13/09 06:45 PM, Aci6 wrote: Also, is 37,000 total points an achievement anyone?

Every 10k for total points

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At 10/14/09 05:02 AM, Coop83 wrote: Yeah, but if they were embarking on an animation corse, you'd have expected some people on the course to have made something using Flash before

Not necessarily.

Check out my medals that I've won - they're certainly amongst the easier ones.

Heh, OK. :)

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Ehhh, slight misunderstanding on that place. For the training place, I'm not to see them until they get work placement for me. I just assumed I was to still go there either way for more training on their side but that's a mistake on my behalf. Ah well, hopefully soon I actually get something then.

Listening to:

Judas Priest - Turbo

At 10/13/09 10:49 AM, Haggard wrote:
At 10/13/09 08:54 AM, Bahamut wrote: Listening to:

Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
Good idea.

Listening to:
Dead Kennedys - Holiday In Cambodia

Fantastic song.

Main riff is rather bland.
But not as bland as Manowars only riff.

What do you mean by only?

They could care less about popularity. They just don't like Metallica whether they're popular or not.
I didn't say they are jealous of Metallica's popularity. They are jealous of their song writing skills. Because even the worst Metallica song is a masterpiece in comparison to any song by Manowar.

Pfft, Manowar's song writing skills are a hell lot better than Load - St. Anger, no exceptions.

Then you instantly fail. I could easily listen to that ten times over.
I instantly win, because Manowar sucks.

You instantly lose, Manowar rules.

At 10/13/09 03:56 PM, reverend wrote:
Can I borrow 20 bucks?

Why? :P

At 10/13/09 06:45 PM, Aci6 wrote: Also, is 37,000 total points an achievement anyone?

Just mention it to gfox, lol.

At 10/14/09 05:02 AM, Coop83 wrote:
At 10/13/09 08:54 AM, Bahamut wrote: I finally got employed yesterday (news post about it) but I misheard one thing and work itself doesn't start just yet, so I didn't even have to come in today but I did because I assumed so. Ah well.
Congratulations on this one - you deserve to have a job, now enjoy the money and independence that comes along with it.

...Not just yet. D:

What? I don't think I'm that good at animation. I'm piss poor in comparison to many. If I was less lazy with my 100th flash, then maybe I could agree with you.
Seriously, those flash sucked and the ones that got blammed definitely deserved to get that. I think that more of them deserved the same fate as well, but you can't win them all.

I'm talking about ones that pass. A good amount of them are easily better than my work in terms of animation.

However, my life hasn't exactly headed for a high level of animation. It could have been if there was more confidence with my art skills back then.
Well, you're not a bad animator. Lazy, I'll admit, but that's because you're not being pushed with course deadlines. If you were on this 'course', you would shine.

Holy shit, why didn't I think that all along? If I was in animation courses and such, then yes I may come up with better effort.


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At 10/13/09 10:54 AM, Fro wrote:
At 10/12/09 01:36 PM, Haggard wrote:
You're too young then. :P
I must be as I never saw/heard of him before, but it also might have something to do with me never enjoying wrestling or watching wrestling either.

Well, if you've never watched wrestling then it's no surprise you never heard of him. ^^

At 10/14/09 09:47 AM, Bahamut wrote:
At 10/13/09 10:49 AM, Haggard wrote:
At 10/13/09 08:54 AM, Bahamut wrote: Main riff is rather bland.
But not as bland as Manowars only riff.
What do you mean by only?

That they only have one riff.

They could care less about popularity. They just don't like Metallica whether they're popular or not.
I didn't say they are jealous of Metallica's popularity. They are jealous of their song writing skills. Because even the worst Metallica song is a masterpiece in comparison to any song by Manowar.
Pfft, Manowar's song writing skills are a hell lot better than Load - St. Anger, no exceptions.

LOL!

Then you instantly fail. I could easily listen to that ten times over.
I instantly win, because Manowar sucks.
You instantly lose, Manowar rules.

No.

Meh, NG tells me I should write more, because of too much quoted text.

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