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At 8/13/05 03:54 AM, Nietzschean_Ideal wrote: I submit proof that they in fact do, though Canadians know moreso where to place their punctuation.

That've worked better if you didn't make up words.

I wonder if the British call themselves United Kingdans?

American just sounds better.

At 8/13/05 04:42 AM, Jimsween wrote:

At 8/13/05 03:54 AM, Nietzschean_Ideal wrote: I submit proof that they in fact do, though Canadians know moreso where to place their punctuation.

That've worked better if you didn't make up words.

Such as "that've"?

At 8/13/05 05:04 AM, Nietzschean_Ideal wrote: Such as "that've"?

Adorable, just adorable.

At 8/13/05 05:04 AM, Nietzschean_Ideal wrote:

At 8/13/05 04:42 AM, Jimsween wrote:

At 8/13/05 03:54 AM, Nietzschean_Ideal wrote: I submit proof that they in fact do, though Canadians know moreso where to place their punctuation.

That've worked better if you didn't make up words.

Such as "that've"?

That's a grammar error. Omitting the word 'would' is not the same as attempting to create words.

At 8/13/05 05:12 AM, -LazyDrunk- wrote:

At 8/13/05 05:04 AM, Nietzschean_Ideal wrote:

Such as "that've"?

That's a grammar error. Omitting the word 'would' is not the same as attempting to create words.

Like "moreso" which is simply a typo? Come on guys.. try harder.

At 8/12/05 03:27 PM, -LazyDrunk- wrote: Because third world countries would put out more resistance than a bunch a pampered Frenchies. We're only letting you rent Canada from us because we know we could squish you at any point, with just the Montana national guard, with one arm tied behind their back.

Yeah and I say bring it on bitch... come on what are you guys chicken? Oh right you guys learned your lesson back in 1812. That's why the U.S. is too much of a pussy to take us on again. Now you're all talk. "we can kick your ass Canada... but um we just choose not to because um we're letting you rent that big huge hunk of land with tremendous amount of oil, gas and 14% of the world's fresh water." What you think Americans just decided for the hell of it that 32 million people really NEED the second largest landmass in the world? Hah excuses excuses.

You just know you can't take us again. If you think you can then put up or STFU. You invaded, we pushed you back and kept you at bay ever since. Even Thomas Jefferson thought taking Canada would be a "mere matter of marching". Boy was he wrong.

Anyway we won and now we're here forever, get used to it :P

Other than proving that JimSween is a douche this thread has accomplished nothing.

At 8/13/05 02:28 PM, BigBlueBalls wrote:
Yeah and I say bring it on bitch... come on what are you guys chicken? Oh right you guys learned your lesson back in 1812. That's why the U.S. is too much of a pussy to take us on again. Now you're all talk.

Eh, as soon as you guys can find someone to buy your lumber and beef, let me know.

If it isn't SARS you guys are cultivating, it's hippies, which is no better. Why invade a bunch of SARS-infested hippies when we can simply remind you that you're just borrowing land by bending you over economically?

I mean, c'mon. You guys get more bent out of shape over your supreme pothead than ailing trade markets.

At 8/13/05 04:27 PM, -LazyDrunk- wrote: Eh, as soon as you guys can find someone to buy your lumber and beef, let me know.

Well actually we sell much of our beef to Americans as of right now. Funny how the U.S. finally admits it gets a mad cow, then you suddenly open up your market again to Canada. As for softwood dispute, it really is too bad Americans can't buy cheaper lumber.

If it isn't SARS you guys are cultivating, it's hippies, which is no better. Why invade a bunch of SARS-infested hippies

Yes ok Canadians are all just this bunch of hippies who have a secret SARS WMD, that will destroy the U.S. if you ever fuck with us.

when we can simply remind you that you're just borrowing land by bending you over economically?

Heh you guys can't just make up your damn minds. Either Americans say they're raping us economically or Canadians are the freeloaders riding the U.S. economy.

I mean, c'mon. You guys get more bent out of shape over your supreme pothead than ailing trade markets.

Canada doesn't have an ailing trade market, so we have time to focus on issues like getting pot legalized. While the U.S. is running hundreds of billions in trade deficit, we're running a 12 billion trade surplus.

One other thing, high oil prices is actually good for Canada's economy, since we're your #1 trading partner and #1 supplier of oil :)

At 8/13/05 02:28 PM, BigBlueBalls wrote: What you think Americans just decided for the hell of it that 32 million people really NEED the second largest landmass in the world? Hah excuses excuses.

You guys consider that tundra land? You see, us Americans like warm weather. Thats why we live in this bitching place. You get our leftovers ; )

At 8/14/05 04:40 AM, FAB0L0US wrote: You guys consider that tundra land? You see, us Americans like warm weather. Thats why we live in this bitching place. You get our leftovers ; )

Riiiight... you like warm weather that why you always bitching that mexican cross the border illegally you got the south now live with it....like they say have fun compadre.

At 8/14/05 12:50 PM, MikeZan wrote: Riiiight... you like warm weather that why you always bitching that mexican cross the border illegally you got the south now live with it....like they say have fun compadre.

Hey man. We Americans. All we do is bitch.

Its practically the national pastime.

At 8/14/05 12:50 PM, MikeZan wrote:

At 8/14/05 04:40 AM, FAB0L0US wrote: You guys consider that tundra land? You see, us Americans like warm weather. Thats why we live in this bitching place. You get our leftovers ; )

Riiiight... you like warm weather that why you always bitching that mexican cross the border illegally you got the south now live with it....like they say have fun compadre.

Actually--
There's been a few illegal possession of Mexican land by a few United States citizens(OMG-- I didn't say American)... And this is recently like 6 or 7 years ago. Anyways, a bunch of old retirees and all. Built BEAUTIFUL houses very cheaply in Tijuana and Mexicali.

Anyways,
after a few years the Mexican government finally came down and said, "You can't do that." So they deported them and tore down their houses for a school for deaf children, or something like that.

Very heartbreaking.
But at least the other side learned empathy...

I think the U.S. must change it's name, I mean, 'United States Of America' is the formal name like in Mexico is 'United Mexican States' (or something like that), or in China is 'Republic of China' mmmmmmmm maybe the name must be based in culture like Mexico is from the 'Mexica' culture.

At 8/14/05 04:53 PM, Monodi wrote: I think the U.S. must change it's name, I mean, 'United States Of America' is the formal name like in Mexico is 'United Mexican States' (or something like that), or in China is 'Republic of China' mmmmmmmm maybe the name must be based in culture like Mexico is from the 'Mexica' culture.

The formal name of Mexico is "The United States of Mexico". From the indegenious people, the Mejica.

At 8/14/05 06:47 PM, fli wrote: The formal name of Mexico is "The United States of Mexico". From the indegenious people, the Mejica.

So, would that make Us "United Statesians" and them "Estados Unidians?"

If you're tired of underrepresenting the American continent why are you OK with overrepresented the Chinese when in fact an enormous amount of the Chinese have little to no Chinese blood. Why don't we call it "chinajurchamongomiaoturkdzunhgartibetan land?" (And that's a shortened version.)

Actually... Camaro,
When a Mexican wants to call an American... American, that Mexicans says, "Estadounidense." Meaning, ofcourse, "United States Citizen."

But , technically, A Mexican could also be called a "United States citiezen". Why? Because It's "United States of Mexico."

But this is a cultural argument over there.
It's really funny.
"American" and "United States Citiezen" could actually mean a person born in the USA or Mexico...

Sorry for the double post.

As far as I know,
I don't know anything about the Chinese or their culture. What I know is food, clothing, and actors. Otherwise, their history-- I have no clue.

If they're not Chinese, then it's their argument.
Once they got that resolved, then the rest of the world should call them what they want to be called. Otherwise, I don't really care. But what I do care is what refer ourselves.

I mean, how hard is it to write or say, "US Citizen".
I mean, it even sounds more prouder, distinguished and more beautiful than "American".

We're Americans, alright. No disputing that, but that is because we're part of the continent with Mexico and Canada.

don't forget South America ;)

The formal name of Mexico is "The United States of Mexico". From the indegenious people, the Mejica.

right thanx (:

At 8/14/05 07:38 PM, fli wrote: Sorry for the double post.

As far as I know...

No worries, Fli, that part of the post wasn't directed at you. It was directed toward the person who started this topic.

At 8/11/05 10:51 PM, FBIpolux wrote: I've heard this of many teachers and educated people who get their diplomas at university. They all say that the word "American" doesn't means "someone who has born or who lives in the United States of America", but someone who has born or who lives in the North, Middle or South America. The real term to call someone original from U.S.A. would be United-Statian.

And I think everyone should use this term. People from the U.S.A. seems to have used the term "American" to describe themselves as if they were the most important thing in the whole America. Maybe economically it's true, but geo-politically, it's not.

People in Mexico call themselves Mexicans...you gonna call them stuck-up people? I don't think so. What does U.S.A. stand for United States of America...so what should we be called? Unitedians? Americans fit us because we're the only ones with that title in our country. People from Canada are Canadians, people from Mexico are Mexicans, and people from the U.S.A. are Americans. Unless you feel like calling everyone in North and (if you did mention) South America Morons from saying that they're Mexicans, Americans, Canadians, and all the rest morons for saying that they are citizens from their country. Go ahead and be a moron.

What do you guys think about that.

Ironically I was just talking about this the other day and people kind of looked at me weird especially when I used the term "United Statian". I completely agree with everything you've said and I also believe that our use of the term American further proves our ignorance and disregard for other cultures. How could you mess up coming up with a name for yourself after having a whole world for as an example or basis.

At 8/11/05 10:54 PM, Gamer8585 wrote: I undersand what you're saying, but the full name of the country is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Unlike any other country on eaither of the American continents The USA is the only one with "America" in its name. Plus I like saying American more then United-Statesian it just rolls off the tounge better.

Well you said it, United States OF America. We are OF America, NOT AMERICA IT SELF. I always say United Statian, I'm used to it already. Mexicans, Candians, United Statians, Cubans, Dominicans, Brazilians, Bolivians, Chileans, are all Americans. We are OF America, not America it self.

We're Americans, not "United Statians".

I don't see the issue with us being "ignorant" if we call ourselves Americans? The name "America" is in our national name, and hence, that's what we're called. It's not so hard to get.

Besides, there isn't a continent called "America", there's North America and South America, so to be specific of what continent you're from, say North or South American. But no one identifies themselves to their continent of origin, it's the national identity that counts. Since I'm from Mexican descent, my relatives in Mexico are Mexicans, while I'm an American. So I don't get the statements said in this thread of "you people (Americans) are ignorant and think you're the best in the continent".

Now, I have to say, "United Statian" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You're not going to call someone from the UK a "United Kingdomer" or whatnot, or a Austrailian a "Commowealthan", so why do we have to be called "United Statian". The official name of the United States is the United States of America, and that does not denote the geographic part of the name, since it's part of the official name, the the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", the "Federation of Brazil", the "United Mexican States", and the "People's Republic of China". And we don't call them by anything else.

At 8/13/05 02:28 PM, BigBlueBalls wrote:

At 8/12/05 03:27 PM, -LazyDrunk- wrote: Because third world countries would put out more resistance than a bunch a pampered Frenchies. We're only letting you rent Canada from us because we know we could squish you at any point, with just the Montana national guard, with one arm tied behind their back.

Yeah and I say bring it on bitch... come on what are you guys chicken? Oh right you guys learned your lesson back in 1812. That's why the U.S. is too much of a pussy to take us on again. Now you're all talk. "we can kick your ass Canada... but um we just choose not to because um we're letting you rent that big huge hunk of land with tremendous amount of oil, gas and 14% of the world's fresh water." What you think Americans just decided for the hell of it that 32 million people really NEED the second largest landmass in the world? Hah excuses excuses.

You just know you can't take us again. If you think you can then put up or STFU. You invaded, we pushed you back and kept you at bay ever since. Even Thomas Jefferson thought taking Canada would be a "mere matter of marching". Boy was he wrong.

Anyway we won and now we're here forever, get used to it :P

Hate to tell you this bro, but that was almost 200 years ago, while we were still learning how to walk. We can run now, as in Run UP AND BLAST ON YO ASS!!! See, while we were developing military technology, the world's strongest Navy, a kick-ass Air Force, and soldiers and marines who eatanything from communists to terrorists for breakfast, you guys were letting your military deteriorate due to the fact that no one can invade you without getting through us first. Your military is at 50% readiness by the admission of your own news station. Your ships are dated and falling apart, as is most of your ground equipment. You don't have the landscape working for you either, we don't have to march anymore. Face it, at any point, we could complete Manifest Destiny and Jefferson's vision of a brighter future.

what do you mean? i come from america dont i? i also come the u.s. but im also from new york, so why the hell cant i call myself an american? some brazalian wants to call himself an american also? be my guest for all i care he can call himself an earthling why the hell should i care?

At 12/4/05 04:50 AM, AnkhX100 wrote: We're Americans, not "United Statians".


Now, I have to say, "United Statian" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You're not going to call someone from the UK a "United Kingdomer" or whatnot, or a Austrailian a "Commowealthan", so why do we have to be called "United Statian". The official name of the United States is the United States of America, and that does not denote the geographic part of the name, since it's part of the official name, the the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", the "Federation of Brazil", the "United Mexican States", and the "People's Republic of China". And we don't call them by anything else.

Then lets start calling them that, I got no problem. Yes the word America is included in the country's name, but you must ask yourself HOW is it included. Take a look: United States OF America. We are OF America, not America itself. Part of, not the whole thing.

At 12/4/05 10:58 PM, bootleg42 wrote: Then lets start calling them that, I got no problem. Yes the word America is included in the country's name, but you must ask yourself HOW is it included. Take a look: United States OF America. We are OF America, not America itself. Part of, not the whole thing.

while im saying youre wrong but you argue really dumb. out doesnt say anything to prove your point, were the united states OF america. meaning our states make up america, no one state is america but every state is a PART of america