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At 7/17/06 01:34 PM, carmelhadinosaur wrote: Well this question isn't directed to me, but I think because he will because else everything Dumbledore taught him is useless, and evil still wins.

Is that answer suggesting that Harry will live because everything that Dumbledore taught him was useless?

I don't understand the point you're making.

Sweet club! Can I join? If I can, then I'll be the knight.

At 7/17/06 02:15 PM, -Nev- wrote: Is that answer suggesting that Harry will live because everything that Dumbledore taught him was useless?

lol, no; Harry will live because everything that Dubmledore taught his ISN'T useless. If Harry would die then it all becomes useless..

At 7/17/06 02:32 PM, carmelhadinosaur wrote:

At 7/17/06 02:15 PM, -Nev- wrote: Is that answer suggesting that Harry will live because everything that Dumbledore taught him was useless?

lol, no; Harry will live because everything that Dubmledore taught his ISN'T useless. If Harry would die then it all becomes useless..

exactly..... J.K. Rowling wants it that way so nobody can expand the story into and "extended" universe...like they did with Star Wars...it's a smart move and I think we all kind of expected Harry to pass anyway...it seems only fitting to the story...IMO...

At 7/17/06 02:32 PM, carmelhadinosaur wrote:

At 7/17/06 02:15 PM, -Nev- wrote: Is that answer suggesting that Harry will live because everything that Dumbledore taught him was useless?

lol, no; Harry will live because everything that Dubmledore taught his ISN'T useless. If Harry would die then it all becomes useless..

Ahhh... yes that makes a lot more sense.

At 7/17/06 02:36 PM, R3dF0x wrote: exactly..... J.K. Rowling wants it that way so nobody can expand the story into and "extended" universe

Thats why I think Harry might die too.
Although it does seem to go against the prophecy, there are ways around it.

...and I think we all kind of expected Harry to pass anyway...it seems only fitting to the story...IMO...

True, its not nice for the protagonist to die in what is essentially a book for young children.

Then again Rowling never minded about killing his Godfather and the father figure... not to mention the Harry's parents.

lol the books are fun to read, but to make a fanclub i think sucks. btw look at the wraithchild topic in here.

At 7/17/06 02:42 PM, -Nev- wrote:

True, its not nice for the protagonist to die in what is essentially a book for young children.

Then again Rowling never minded about killing his Godfather and the father figure... not to mention the Harry's parents.

true, very true...but as a writer, you have to think about what is right for the story line...there are things you would like to see happen, but when it comes down to it...she's gonna do what is right for the story and not the readers...she always has...

At 7/17/06 02:32 PM, carmelhadinosaur wrote:

At 7/17/06 02:15 PM, -Nev- wrote: Is that answer suggesting that Harry will live because everything that Dumbledore taught him was useless?

lol, no; Harry will live because everything that Dubmledore taught his ISN'T useless. If Harry would die then it all becomes useless..

but dumbledore always insisted that death wasn't that big of a deal,that was one of dumbledore's big lesson.
I think that if ginny dies,harry dies,rowling has taken everything from him,all he has left is his love for ginny,if ginny goes,he'll have nothing else,well maybe what's left of the weasley family

JKR said book 7 would be a bloodbath,and that's what i'm expecting

I seriously cant wait for the last book, it's gonna be awesome, and i'm not afraid to say that the ending of the last one seriously moved me, i actually bloody had a tear going down my face! Now that's a bloody good book =D

p.s Sirius isn't dead. HE IS SO NOT DEAD!

p.p.s I predict Ginny to be the only one left alive.

are the changing of the storyline in the theatrical movies pissing any of you off?

what ever happened "Im want to keep things true to the book" quote from J.K.'s interview on the frist DVD...seems she would have sold out...boo!

seperately...the movies are fine and could stand alone...but to base it off a book and change it...is freaking madness... :( especially with the last installment of Goblet of Fire...boo x 2!

They missed out a lot of important stuff when making the films. the stories are thorough and enriching which was squeezed into 1 hour films, i don't know why they just didn't make a TV series instead?

I made a new wand!! It isnt much, but how do you like it?

I was reading through the newest book again, and remembered this old club.

That inspired me to go through the books again, and I think I found a confirmation that Snape really did kill Albus on the orders *of* Albus.

In HBP, Elf Tails, Hagrid relates overhearing a conversation between Dumbledore and Snape, where Snape is saying "I won't do it!" and Dumbledore said "You have to."

Hagrid didn't hear what it was about other than that.

My theory is that this act, killing (or apparently killing, but I really do think he's dead) Dumbledore, is what that conversation was about.

Tie into that the later comment "Please, Severus" just before Snape commits the deed... it looks pretty clear to me now.

Of course, Harry won't accept that for a while (if ever), given his distrust of Snape, but that conflict will be a plot point in Book 7, I suspect.

Any thoughts?

At 10/23/06 06:15 PM, dave wrote: Any thoughts?

I'm taking both these arguments of that dumbledoreisnotdead site, but I can't be bothered searching through my vast history to find it.

But, I agree that Dumbledore asked Snape to "kill" him. But as the argument on that site states:
A - The book places a huge part on unspoken spells.
B - Dumbledore's reaction is far too over-the-top considering most Avada victims just drop dead.

Putting the two together makes you think that maybe Snape said one thing but meant another... afterall, you can only use the killing curse if you truely mean it. And on DumbleD's orders Snape wouldn't of meant it. So he could of said it, yet really just be casting a basic exspelliarmus.

I'm surprised this club wasn't started a long time ago. Anyway, Harry Potter books are great, so I'll join. I got sorted into Ravenclaw. :D I've gotten the same result on many other tests, too.

My PC wanted to do a virus scan, so I thought I'd treat it and let it go ahead.
So to kill the time I watched Chamber of Secrets.

Now if you remember the scene at the end where Lucius is about to attack Harry, you can hear Lucius start his spell before Dobby interferes.... and is it me, or does it sound like he's hissing 'Avada...'?

Theoretically, its stupid seeing as Dumbledore is in the next room, but it does sound horribly like it.

Also I had another thought... this was after I finished reading PoA the other day.
Well, you know how only Harry and Dumbledore knew of Sirius' innocence. Well, assuming Dumbledore had the Pensieve at this time. Couldn't they have extracted Harry's memory of the scene with Pettigrew, Sirius, Remus, etc and used that as evidence?

so at the end of book 6, we are introduced to a person by the initials H.A.B, who stole the gem that holds one of Voldemort's souls (his journal from part 3 was one of them). Any speculations?

And what the hell did Dumbledore drink, that weakened him? a powerful hallucinegenic that made him paranoid, and also poisoned him? (made his body numb).

so are you guys ready to see Mrs Umbridge in the Flesh?

At 4/16/07 01:34 AM, hongkongexpress wrote: so at the end of book 6, we are introduced to a person by the initials H.A.B, who stole the gem that holds one of Voldemort's souls (his journal from part 3 was one of them). Any speculations?

Hmm, I dont think that we will meet H.A.B coinciding with the time that the book is set (as in we wont meet him from harry's perspective) because that goblet or cup couldve been there for a long time. Hermione will probably find him/her in a book again that freakin nerd.

And what the hell did Dumbledore drink, that weakened him? a powerful hallucinegenic that made him paranoid, and also poisoned him? (made his body numb).

I don't think we'll find out. I dont think it really matters.

Also way to unearth this old thread. lol.

At 4/16/07 05:57 AM, hongkongexpress wrote: so are you guys ready to see Mrs Umbridge in the Flesh?

I didnt really imagine her as what was in the trailer. I was thinking she was mutch older. I hate the old hag personally

But we're so close to the new movie and the book coming out. so it's that's special time of the year again!

so now with that said and done, with the 7th book completed..... What is next for Harry Potter era of children entertainment? what would fill the gap?

I dont know how old this is but it actually reveals a fair bit from the next book. the following is
confirmed info from mugglenet

" Character Information
We will find out something "incredibly important" about Lily Potter
We will find out who R.A.B. is
We will discover more about Dumbledore's past
We will discover where Snape's loyalties lie.
Something will be revealed about Petunia Dursley, although it will not be that she is a Squib
Viktor Krum will return (World Book Day, 2004 interview)
We will see a reappearance of Dolores Umbridge - "It's too much fun to torture her not to have another little bit more before I finish." (MuggleNet/Leaky Interview)
JKR has said, "There is a character who does manage, in desperate circumstances, to do magic quite late in life, but that is very rare..."

Plot Information
Harry will face Voldemort for the final time
Harry will be attempting to find and destroy Voldemort’s remaining Horcruxes
Harry will return to the Dursleys' during the school vacation, but the magical protection Dumbledore arranged will expire on his 17th birthday when he comes of age
Harry will visit Godric's Hollow
There will be a reappearance of the two-way mirror
We will see the wedding of Fleur and Bill Weasley
The fact that Harry "has his mother's eyes" will prove to be an important plot point
At least one character will die

Other
The last word is expected to be "scar," but may change
We will finally learn the full reason why some people become ghosts when they die and others don't
The final chapter, which has already been written, will detail what happens to the characters that survive
There will be no more Quidditch matches "

At 4/16/07 06:13 AM, hongkongexpress wrote: so now with that said and done, with the 7th book completed..... What is next for Harry Potter era of children entertainment? what would fill the gap?

Geri Haliwells books ;).

wait the former Spice Girl wrote a set of childrens' books?

At 4/16/07 04:37 PM, hongkongexpress wrote: wait the former Spice Girl wrote a set of childrens' books?

She is doing. Yes.... sadly.

Harry Potter REALLY annoys me, but that's probably because I haven't read any of the books.

At 4/16/07 04:56 PM, Mr-Money wrote: Harry Potter REALLY annoys me, but that's probably because I haven't read any of the books.

Wow.... well you're opinion is totally pointless. Its like saying 'I don't like cheese, but I've never tried it'.
Its stupid.... go away.

Ugendia Lavender? 6 books??!!?!?!?!?!??!1?1? *joins army and set to AFganistan jumps on landmine.*. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (relaxing ahhhh sound).

At 4/16/07 05:01 PM, Nev wrote:

At 4/16/07 04:56 PM, Mr-Money wrote: Harry Potter REALLY annoys me, but that's probably because I haven't read any of the books.

Wow.... well you're opinion is totally pointless. Its like saying 'I don't like cheese, but I've never tried it'.
Its stupid.... go away.

Well you might not like the smell of cheese. Therefore the statement would be correct wouldnt it.