Global Abolishment Of Religion.

[revolutionx]

This thread is to explore the abolishment of religion and religious practices. By this i mean the removal of Religion from schools, collages and other 'institutions of learning'. The replacement of religious buildings with useful buildings such as schools, hospitals, research centres, etc. The replacement of religious rituals and holidays such as (this will most likely be unpopular) Christmas, Easter, Diwalhi (sp?), Eid, Ramadan, etc with Gloabal holidays in which feasts are held and gifts are exchanged but in celebration of science and the progress of the human race since the dawn of man.

I want to make clear that i am not trying to 'bash' religion (although i disagree with it). I merely want to discuss the implications of the abolishment of religion over time. Obviously i realise that it would initially cause conflicts but in my opinion this 'revolution' would be beneficial for all and the next logical step forward in human evolution.

[AshfordPride]

I think your post would be more at home in the "politics" section.

[gumOnShoe]

At 8/8/05 10:51 AM, AshfordPride wrote: I think your post would be more at home in the "politics" section.

or in the newly established atheist army thread in the C & C section

Religion is useful in that it helps teach our children moral values that they would not learn otherwise... the government isn't exactly a pure institution and i would rather not have it teaching children whats right and wrong

[KrazyKool]

The hippies already tried to do that. So did John Lennon.

Imagine all the people.
Imagine theres no heaven
No hell beneath us

remember?

[ZeroAsALimit]

I think churches and the like aren't really needed.

I seem to remember reading that God was everywhere, and people pray before meals and before bed and the like.

I don't think religious buildings are needed. As for the removal of prayers, etc at institutions of learning, I do not agree with them, so I should like to see both removed. (but let's not turn this thread into a discussion of education and further education).

[ArabFreak]

Wel, that's a change from all your pointless threads about your sister.

[superlunk]

At 8/8/05 10:50 AM, RevolutionX wrote: Ramadan

Thats a month, not a holiday. LOL.

[ArabFreak]

At 8/8/05 11:11 AM, superlunk wrote:

At 8/8/05 10:50 AM, RevolutionX wrote: Ramadan

Thats a month, not a holiday. LOL.

True.

[revolutionx]

At 8/8/05 11:11 AM, superlunk wrote:

At 8/8/05 10:50 AM, RevolutionX wrote: Ramadan

Thats a month, not a holiday. LOL.

Ramadan (Islamic Holiday)

Ramadan is a religious holiday practiced by those of the Islamic faith.

[subpar]

Global abolishment of religion will never happen.
Most people do have a religion, and won't just sit back and be told what to believe.

[revolutionx]

At 8/8/05 11:17 AM, subpar wrote: Global abolishment of religion will never happen.
Most people do have a religion, and won't just sit back and be told what to believe.

I'm trying to discuss the implications of the abolishment of religion over time.

[ArabFreak]

At 8/8/05 11:16 AM, RevolutionX wrote: Ramadan is a religious holiday practiced by those of the Islamic faith.

STFU. Ramadan is not a holiday, it's a holy month. We fast until dawn. Eid follows that.

[revolutionx]

At 8/8/05 11:21 AM, Transkar wrote: this country was founded on religion and accepts all religions. They are not gonna let some athiest movement change that.

Banning religion totally may seem a bit extreme. I would be all for getting it out of institutions of learning and getting rid of public places of worship.

[revolutionx]

At 8/8/05 11:23 AM, arab_freak wrote:

At 8/8/05 11:16 AM, RevolutionX wrote: Ramadan is a religious holiday practiced by those of the Islamic faith.

STFU. Ramadan is not a holiday, it's a holy month. We fast until dawn. Eid follows that.

Wrong. Ramadan is a holiday of fasting and reflection.

[W31RD0]

Why does everyone think that without religion we would lack morals?

Atheism didnt start the Holocust.
Atheism didnt cause the crusades
It wasnt the Atheists behind 9/11
You never hear about Atheists blowing up Planned Parenting

All racism ties back to the concept of religion, as almost every organized religion seeks to make itself the right religion and to make all other beliefes the wrong religion.

[subpar]

At 8/8/05 11:19 AM, RevolutionX wrote:

At 8/8/05 11:17 AM, subpar wrote: Global abolishment of religion will never happen.
Most people do have a religion, and won't just sit back and be told what to believe.

I'm trying to discuss the implications of the abolishment of religion over time.

I know... I'm just saying that even if you take away people's churches, you won't take away their beliefs, and even if religion was done away with over time, new religions would be sure to pop up all over the place, as science still hasn't answered all of our questions.

If we did live in a world without religion, it would definitely be very different, in many ways. Think about how much art and literature was inspired by God. Take away God and you take away a lot of creativity, and culture. And consider how differently people have acted based on religion. Sure, we wouldn't have people crashing planes into buildings in the name of their God, but we would have a lot of people who don't give a shit about being a good person because they don't know the meaning of sin. I'm not saying all atheists are bad people, but in the past, religion has been a major factor in controlling people... whether that's a good thing or a bad thing depends on who's in control.

It could really go either way...

[Porn-Dude]

I'm just going to say the same thing I always do these days when this kind of argument comes up.

I don't give a shit. I think that everyone should be free to believe and practice whatever the hell they want to (within sensible boundaries) I don't care if you're religious or not I don't want you to fucking tell me what I can and can't believe. Anti-religious preachers are just as annoying as someone who comes up and trys to get me to convert to another religion.

I don't judge people based at what they do or don't believe and all I want is that same fucking curtesy. Just let people live their lives the way they want to and live yours the way you want to. Blaming religion for man's problems is ignorant, our problems come from ourselves abolishing religion would just make the people in power control us some other way.

[W31RD0]

At 8/8/05 11:27 AM, Transkar wrote:

At 8/8/05 11:24 AM, RevolutionX wrote:

At 8/8/05 11:21 AM, Transkar wrote:

Banning religion totally may seem a bit extreme. I would be all for getting it out of institutions of learning and getting rid of public places of worship.

stfu I don't give a shit what you think penis wrinkle.

Nice, thought-out argument. N00b.

[subpar]

At 8/8/05 11:27 AM, Transkar wrote: stfu I don't give a shit what you think penis wrinkle.

Here's a suggestion, cockbite.

If you don't care what people think, don't post in a serious discussion about religion.

[Fox-Ad-Infinitum]

global execution of all religionous people = t3h w1n

end

[Luxury-Yacht]

But what of Catholic schoolgirls? Would you be so heartless as to rid the world of them?

[W31RD0]

Revolution X, when your tlaking about abolishing it over time, it would have to take a few hundred to a thousand years to pull it off smoothly. Go too quickly, and you will create extremists.

[mythdragon]

At 8/8/05 10:50 AM, RevolutionX wrote: This thread is to explore the abolishment of religion and religious practices(...).

It was done alredy, Stalin and communism did it. And look people ther return to thier religion. You wanst first that had that idea and you arnt last, but all failed and all they will.

[subpar]

At 8/8/05 11:30 AM, PhoenixFox wrote: global execution of all religionous people = t3h w1n

end

Global execution of about 80-90 percent of all earth's people = Failure.
http://en.wikipedia...i/Atheism#Statistics

[Peter-II]

At 8/8/05 11:30 AM, Transkar wrote: Only nerds say noob. All I'm sayin I don't give a shit what some ugly athiest tells me what to believe I'm not tgonna change my beliefs.

'Ugly' atheist? An attack on somebody's appearance? For the lose.

You're not going to change your beliefs? Not even if it's proven that if you do, the human race will advance faster?

[W31RD0]

At 8/8/05 11:32 AM, mythdragon wrote:

At 8/8/05 10:50 AM, RevolutionX wrote: This thread is to explore the abolishment of religion and religious practices(...).

It was done alredy, Stalin and communism did it. And look people ther return to thier religion. You wanst first that had that idea and you arnt last, but all failed and all they will.

The communism of the Soviet Union was flawed. As it did not give their people a proper voice. In a communism people have to be happy with the administration for it to work as everyone needs to do their part. As such Stalin's attemps failed.

[Fox-Ad-Infinitum]

At 8/8/05 11:35 AM, subpar wrote:

At 8/8/05 11:30 AM, PhoenixFox wrote: global execution of all religionous people = t3h w1n

end

Global execution of about 80-90 percent of all earth's people = Failure.
http://en.wikipedia...i/Atheism#Statistics

annihilation of the human race FTW!
the world is overpopulated anyway

[subpar]

At 8/8/05 11:36 AM, ---THE_POPE--- wrote: You're not going to change your beliefs? Not even if it's proven that if you do, the human race will advance faster?

Most religious people probably wouldn't change their beliefs over something like that... and I doubt you can easily prove that the human race would actually advance faster just because people stop believing in a creator.

By the way...
Are you people talking about banning organized religion, or banning God in general?

[revolutionx]

At 8/8/05 11:32 AM, W31RD0 wrote: Revolution X, when your tlaking about abolishing it over time, it would have to take a few hundred to a thousand years to pull it off smoothly. Go too quickly, and you will create extremists.

Good Point.

When people feel like they are being hunted down they are even more rabid about their beliefs than if they weren't. It unites them. If religious people start feeling opressed they will probably unite to fight (literally or figuratively) against it.

[poxpower]

At 8/8/05 11:48 AM, subpar wrote:

By the way...
Are you people talking about banning organized religion, or banning God in general?

Let's ban God for a month, and then request an admin extention :o
:o
:o

I think its a splendid idea that could only benefit the earth, a proof of this being that people are so stupid with religion they think its the best source of good morals.
I mean, shit that's really sad.

Sadly, you'd probably have to burn about 90% of the earth's cultural past, like Greek Temples and just about every painting from the renaissance to erase religion, and some people would whine about that a lot.
like.
A LOT.
But they're just art teachers, they suck.