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At 12/8/07 06:20 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Pardon me, but did somebody say that Albert Einstein was an atheist?

He may not have believed in God, but he certainly believed in a higher being that controlled everything.

Relevancy?

At 12/8/07 06:43 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 12/8/07 06:20 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Pardon me, but did somebody say that Albert Einstein was an atheist?

He may not have believed in God, but he certainly believed in a higher being that controlled everything.

Relevancy?

Somebody said it?

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind...but there is one thing that science cannot accept - and that is a personal God who meddles in the affairs of his creation."
-Albert Einstein

At 12/8/07 08:39 PM, Zoraxe7 wrote: "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind...but there is one thing that science cannot accept - and that is a personal God who meddles in the affairs of his creation."
-Albert Einstein

A much as I respect Albert Einstein Scientifically, he wasn't much of a philosopher.

At 12/5/07 08:09 PM, Skwurll wrote: Athesists are stupid!!!!!

You believe the universe exploded out of a singularity and life was created from rapid expansion of minerals,gases,and liquids

O RLY

At 12/8/07 09:04 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 12/5/07 08:09 PM, Skwurll wrote: Athesists are stupid!!!!!

You believe the universe exploded out of a singularity and life was created from rapid expansion of minerals,gases,and liquids

O RLY

ha ha ha ha, that is so sweet. So sweet in fact that im gonna steal it.

At 12/9/07 01:25 AM, cabosetek wrote:
ha ha ha ha, that is so sweet. So sweet in fact that im gonna steal it.

Go ahead. You can print it and stick it under people's windscreen wipers for all I care.

Win.

At 12/8/07 08:39 PM, Zoraxe7 wrote: -Albert Einstein

Einstein was very specific in his disbelief of an actively angaged God. If you say 'he's religious because he's agnostic' then I would have to disagree, and I'd think Einstein would agree more with atheists than with members of organised religion.

Don't pretend 'God' is the main argument and equate your organised religion with Einstein.

At 12/9/07 04:04 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Win.

Didn't VenomfangX (shawn) talk about that in one of his vids?

At 12/9/07 10:07 AM, Brick-top wrote:

At 12/9/07 04:04 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Win.

Didn't VenomfangX (shawn) talk about that in one of his vids?

Yeah probably, but I disregard his bullshit logic by default.

At 12/9/07 09:55 AM, Earfetish wrote:
Einstein was very specific in his disbelief of an actively angaged God. If you say 'he's religious because he's agnostic' then I would have to disagree, and I'd think Einstein would agree more with atheists than with members of organised religion.

Would that make him a deist, I guess?

At 12/9/07 09:55 AM, Earfetish wrote: Don't pretend 'God' is the main argument and equate your organised religion with Einstein.

lol, Im not orginized, Ive bean to church like 2 times in my life (And I cant even remember one).
Im not apart of any religious orginization.

At 12/9/07 05:07 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 12/9/07 10:07 AM, Brick-top wrote:

At 12/9/07 04:04 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Win.

Didn't VenomfangX (shawn) talk about that in one of his vids?

Yeah probably, but I disregard his bullshit logic by default.

No it's Kent Hovinds logic.

The cunt can't form his own arguments.

At 12/9/07 05:11 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Would that make him a deist, I guess?

Something like that, I've not done enough research.

At 12/9/07 05:47 PM, Zoraxe7 wrote: lol, Im not orginized, Ive bean to church like 2 times in my life (And I cant even remember one).
Im not apart of any religious orginization.

Aye, well, I don't see the concern with atheists then, religion is the one causing global problems at the moment. I would advise you turning your sights to arguing against religious people on the internet.

If you wanted to argue about your particular belief in God, you'd have to tell me how you define Him.

At 12/9/07 05:49 PM, Brick-top wrote: No it's Kent Hovinds logic.

The cunt can't form his own arguments.

Well, yeah, that whole monkey see/do bullshit.

At 12/9/07 06:14 PM, Earfetish wrote: If you wanted to argue about your particular belief in God, you'd have to tell me how you define Him.

I dont exactly know, but I do know that Gods out there. Thats why I defend religion in general.

Woot! go religion!

At 12/9/07 06:27 PM, Zoraxe7 wrote:
I dont exactly know, but I do know that Gods out there. Thats why I defend religion in general.

You may think you know, but you can't actually know he is real, in the same way Atheists can't know he isn't real.

At 12/9/07 06:37 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote: You may think you know, but you can't actually know he is real, in the same way Atheists can't know he isn't real.

Exactly, so the only thing we can do is go with our gut, until I think about 'why', then its clear.

At 12/9/07 06:27 PM, Zoraxe7 wrote: I dont exactly know, but I do know that Gods out there. Thats why I defend religion in general.

If I was in your situation I would disagree with anyone who claimed to know God's mind.

Oh shit! I think I'm starting to become a theist!

At 12/9/07 06:55 PM, Brick-top wrote: Oh shit! I think I'm starting to become a theist!

April was months ago mate.

At 12/9/07 06:44 PM, Zoraxe7 wrote:
Exactly, so the only thing we can do is go with our gut, until I think about 'why', then its clear.

No, we can work out reasons why he probably does/doesn't exist and work from there.

At 12/9/07 07:01 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 12/9/07 06:55 PM, Brick-top wrote: Oh shit! I think I'm starting to become a theist!

April was months ago mate.

No, I'm being serous.

At 12/9/07 07:04 PM, Brick-top wrote:

April was months ago mate.

No, I'm being serous.

what brought this on

At 12/9/07 07:12 PM, Earfetish wrote:

At 12/9/07 07:04 PM, Brick-top wrote:

April was months ago mate.

No, I'm being serous.

what brought this on

I just like the idea that a creator made everything. Sure, it has no proof. But it's nice to finally know. Because, it's like there's this huge desire to know but you refuse to tell yourself a devine creator made it. And you won't be happy till it's known.

At 12/9/07 07:26 PM, Brick-top wrote: But it's nice to finally know. Because, it's like there's this huge desire to know but you refuse to tell yourself a devine creator made it. And you won't be happy till it's known.

I don't get it though, you don't know.

At 12/9/07 07:29 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote: I don't get it though, you don't know.

It's complicated.

But I did find out how to spell Gullible :D

At 12/9/07 07:26 PM, Brick-top wrote: I just like the idea that a creator made everything. Sure, it has no proof. But it's nice to finally know. Because, it's like there's this huge desire to know but you refuse to tell yourself a devine creator made it. And you won't be happy till it's known.

I often think these things; the trigger usually being acknowledging the difference between the belief in God and religion in general. I think there are fundamentally two sides - one group who desire an overall answer for everything, need something to make sense of it all, in the form of a mysterious father figure, and the other side are fine without the answers, and think the mystery is better, or good enough in itself. I also think there is something integral to mankind that would make us want to create The Answer.

I really think God is a very interesting topic, I'd love to separate it from religion more because I do like to talk and think about God, whether He exists, why we might want to believe in him, what properties He could possibly have, and it's a terrible shame that there are these Holy Books stifling the argument.

I could never believe in God, though. I find it easier to rationally think of the Great Answer as the Ultimate Simplicity, rather than the Ultimate Complexity.

At 12/9/07 07:32 PM, Earfetish wrote: I could never believe in God, though.

Neither could I.