At 11/9/09 06:05 PM, vgfa287 wrote:
I'm sorry how is that even possible ?, can you please define what you think creationism means?
Creationism is that the universe was created, not specifically by God.
Allow me to present my arguement;
Callum's Arguement For Creationism
God can't exist because, if a creator were in our existence, he/she or it (lets make it a 'he') would have to create energy. Which means that that this energy would have to suddenly move along a still timeline.
This suggests at one point, our universe was static and no energy was moving which defines the beggining of creationism, and the creator got this energy moving.
So something has to act as an engine to drive this static energy, but the creator can't do this in our existence because he would be in a standstill along with the rest of static existence. Like the way a battery conserves energy and uses power to drive the energy around the circuit. Something needs to act as the engine for time which dictates that energy can make matter move around the cosmos.
Subjectively this means that if there was a creator, he would have to be in another existence to create our own existence, otherwise time would = 0, T=0, and thus the creators energy would be locked in static within the rest of time. So the creator in the other existence would have to give an energy input into our existence. But the starting point for that creators existence would have to also draw energy from another existence; and this would create a series of infinate timelines.
TIMELINE BELOW
Logically this means that the universe needs an engine that has been moving, and has therefore always been moving, and will never stop moving. Infinity is based upon this forever moving, and that the timeline of the past stretches on to infinity.
Our present needs to have arisen from an infinite past, which leads to an infinite future; thus there never was a very original 'creation', so it is false to envision God as the creator of the universe, because he could not create himself in our, or any mode of existence.
The only way that my philosophy teacher found to critisise my theory (from a Theists perspective) was that, God is outside the realms of all time, space, and matter; he also said something about a guy who shown Time and Energy are not fully dependent, but i'm looking for ways around that... You can't disprove God, and it sounds stupid, but it's God right? He has the infrerence of the best explenation on his side. It's freaking, rediculous ¬_¬ Although we all know he can't exist, people continue to argue it.
