At 10/8/09 09:41 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote:
At 10/8/09 09:02 PM, michelinman wrote:
At 10/7/09 03:17 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote:
He mostly sticks to himself. He takes being religious to a whole new level, but you see this as a good thing...He has dedicated almost all of his time to improving himself as a Christian, and there's nothing wrong with that in your eyes.
Just to be clear, are you referring to me specifically or whoever is listening for the sake of upholding the hypothetical? Because I know for a fact I wouldn't just let this kid slip by like this.
Hypothetical, and don't be so certain. It's not like the kid would seem creepy. I don't think he'd raise any flags, especially if you'd known him for most of your life.
This young man is displaying all of the telltale signs of catastrophic delusion, but it goes by unnoticed, as everyone just sees him as the quiet type, and doesn't realize the severity of what is going on.
If he's already reserved and is the quiet type, there's really not much one can do or predict about what he's going to do or might do as a result of his religious beliefs.
But in an atheistic community, it raises questions when someone is quiet and keeps mostly to himself. We don't say, oh well he has a relationship with god, so he's getting by ok. We say that poor kid is all alone. We need to get him outside and let him start meeting people and try to raise him up as a normal member of society.
I'm not saying Christianity caused it, but it definitely ALLOWED it.
Eh, alright, but how much blame can you actually place on the religion itself?
Enough to where I think measures should be taken to prevent kids from being propagated into believing a religion at a young age. I think religion shouldn't be exposed to kids until they are old enough to think for themselves.
If that young man had been unexposed to religion, it would have been made clear at a young age that he was having mental problems of some kind and that he needed to see a psychiatrist.
Were his catastrophic delusions a result of his beliefs or not? Is the society in which this situation takes place very religious in itself? If it is, you'd have a point, as the people would just be thinking the Lord is connecting with him.
Not a result, no. This kid was born with mental problems, as are most people who grow up to be murderers. Just no flags were raised as like you said, people thought he just had a very strong bond with god and wasn't having any problems. And yes, this is a religious society, like all places which breed religious violence are.
Because he was Christian, and his delusions were based in a "good" direction, his problems were not noticed until it was too late.
If he wasn't a Christian, it wouldn't make much difference because he wouldn't have told anyone anyway because of his personality.
He wouldn't have to have told anyone. In an atheistic society, the parents, teachers, and kids at school would have noticed that the child wasn't adapting to life very well, or was displaying violent tendencies, violent tendencies which would be acceptable to think of if they were based in a christian direction. For example, in a christian society, if a kid said those fags are all going to burn in hell anyways in reference to gay people, it would be acceptable. However in an atheistic society, if a child displayed that kind of behavior towards ANYTHING, it would be a red flag.
That's where I believe religion indirectly promotes all of the horrible things done in its name.
Ok, I can better understand now where you're coming from. However, it is not the religion itself to blame if it happens to indirectly promote these horrible things. It is still up to the individual and the people with whom he associates to prevent this from happening. If he follows the Bible literally, he should look at those who don't and instead of wanting to destroy them, ask them questions as to why they don't share the same fervency.
He SHOULD yes. But if he has misinterpreted it from a young age since he was taught about religion before he was able to understand it, then the responsibility falls on the people who indoctrinated him to make him understand that he is wrong. They don't want to do this, because they believe his religious fervor is a good thing. That's a problem to me.
