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At 9/10/09 08:34 AM, Earfetish wrote:

At 9/9/09 12:47 AM, MultiCanimefan wrote:

If you define God as my balls, then God also exists.

Energy hasn't necessarily always existed unless you understand cosmology better than I do.

I don't. I was just putting forth someone else's idea.

Saying anything like 'theism is right because God is love' or 'God is energy' or 'God is a tree' doesn't work for me - call energy God all you like, but don't think energy is interested in you or cares about you or has any Godlike qualities at all.

I understand. We're working with the original, strict definition of God here.

Why are atheists such angry people?

At 9/10/09 04:25 PM, bluesectionrow18 wrote: Why are atheists such angry people?

Because the voices in our heads don't justify murder for us :(.

At 9/6/09 11:00 PM, michelinman wrote:

Better to live your life the way you want without being blackmailed then to die in shame. I follow my conscience and do what I know is right, and if "God" doesn't respect that, then fuck him, I'd rather be in hell than bow to something like that.

Good answer!

You guys will probably get a chuckle out of this. Really puts things in perspective. :)

enjoy your time in hell assholes

I keep seeing annonymous raid groups outside the church of scientology in Manchester.

I talked to the guys inside the church, and he got me thinking, why can't people let other people be?

At 9/12/09 05:37 AM, cloneone wrote: enjoy your time in hell assholes

Dear god,
If I'm going to hell, I want to be in familiar company. and I don't really want to spend eternity with people like this in heaven... So, doom me to eternal damnation you all-knowing, all-loving being, you!

Regards,
Your creation whom you claim to love unequivocally but are dooming to hell for some inexplicable reason

At 9/12/09 05:27 PM, Obvious-M wrote: I keep seeing annonymous raid groups outside the church of scientology in Manchester.

I talked to the guys inside the church, and he got me thinking, why can't people let other people be?

My brother was there.

The COS stifles criticism and the only thing you can do with something that stifles criticism is protest loudly irl

however I'd think protesting against the Catholic Church would be more ballsy

At 9/12/09 07:42 PM, Earfetish wrote: My brother was there.
The COS stifles criticism and the only thing you can do with something that stifles criticism is protest loudly irl

Did everyone march towards it in alien costumes making 'PEW! PEW!' noises?

Cause that would be hilarious.

lol yeah it would be

At 9/8/09 05:42 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote: If you really believe that Heaven is nothing but ice cream mountains, butterscotch rivers, rainbows, unicorn, gnomes and other Wonka-esque attractions, you are sadly, sadly mistaken. God doesn't need worship. He doesn't need anything, really, because He has no Ego to satisfy and inflate.

And you know this how exactly?

At 9/8/09 04:51 PM, Patton3 wrote: I just enjoy seeing the puzzled look on their face when I say that I would only believe in God if given a reasonable amount of proof. "What, you need proof to accept a theory as to how everything that is, has been, and ever will be was created? Holy fuck, that is incomprehensible".

You have no proof to support your theory that God doesn't exist. How is that any different?

Hey, I'm sure you enjoy going to church, amirite?

Church, is an example of how stupid Religious people can be.

At 9/12/09 05:37 AM, cloneone wrote: enjoy your time in hell assholes

You give a bad name to Religion.

At 9/13/09 04:38 PM, HighJack wrote:

At 9/8/09 05:42 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote: If you really believe that Heaven is nothing but ice cream mountains, butterscotch rivers, rainbows, unicorn, gnomes and other Wonka-esque attractions, you are sadly, sadly mistaken. God doesn't need worship. He doesn't need anything, really, because He has no Ego to satisfy and inflate.

And you know this how exactly?

I can infer this because according to the Bible, people in Heaven will have transformed bodies and minds, free of sin. Someone who is perfect doesn't need anything. Why would we want anything we could have in Heaven if we're perfect? People following and living in fear of God just to be a kid in a candy shop(getting anything they want) in Heaven is a frighteningly shallow trade-off.

God says to avoid materialism in this world, and if you follow this, you'll be rewarded with materialism and all sorts of goodies in Heaven. So we can't enjoy material objects here on Earth but only in Heaven can we indulge. What?

I know God doesn't need worship because by virtue and definition He is perfect and perfection manifest.

If you have a child, is your motive to have your son or daughter worship you and serve you? That's ridiculous.

At 9/12/09 07:42 PM, Earfetish wrote: My brother was there.

The COS stifles criticism and the only thing you can do with something that stifles criticism is protest loudly irl

however I'd think protesting against the Catholic Church would be more ballsy

I got a leaflet and walking away I turned, and shouted they lost the game. One guy looked pissed off.

At 9/13/09 07:02 PM, Obvious-M wrote:

At 9/12/09 07:42 PM, Earfetish wrote: My brother was there.

The COS stifles criticism and the only thing you can do with something that stifles criticism is protest loudly irl

however I'd think protesting against the Catholic Church would be more ballsy

I got a leaflet and walking away I turned, and shouted they lost the game. One guy looked pissed off.

That..is ...amazing. Who'd have known the Church lurks /b/? Also, I'd say you guys would like the book "Spiders of Allah" by James Heider, I believe. It's the Times correspondant in Iraq, writing about his experiences being an atheisist in a war defined by ideological boundries.

Here is my problem. There are a lot of people (mostly kids aged 12-18) that claim to be atheist but merely pick it because they think it is "cool". These kids probably couldn't tell you a damn thing about the bible, the torah, the quran, the avesta, or any of that shit.

I feel one should have to do a lot of research before being allowed to classify themselves under any religion. But especially atheism, because they give us non-goth/emo/punk and intelligent atheists a bad name.

(also, I can join... right?)

And I'm not saying all kids between the ages of 12-18 who claim to be atheists are like that... and I'm 17, so i definitely am not saying that.

At 9/14/09 12:29 AM, Smokey651 wrote: Here is my problem. There are a lot of people (mostly kids aged 12-18) that claim to be atheist but merely pick it because they think it is "cool". These kids probably couldn't tell you a damn thing about the bible, the torah, the quran, the avesta, or any of that shit.

I can't stand those kinds of "Atheists." They also believe that Atheism entails doing whatever you want without consequences. I can't remember how many times I've seen and read "There's no God, so fuck whoever you want and do drugs!"

I feel one should have to do a lot of research before being allowed to classify themselves under any religion. But especially atheism, because they give us non-goth/emo/punk and intelligent atheists a bad name.

Precisely.

(also, I can join... right?)

Of course. If they let me, a Theist in(I'm an exception around here), then I don't see why not.

And I'm not saying all kids between the ages of 12-18 who claim to be atheists are like that... and I'm 17, so i definitely am not saying that.

Ok, welcome aboard :3.

can i join?

Joining the army.

At 9/13/09 04:42 PM, HighJack wrote:

At 9/8/09 04:51 PM, Patton3 wrote: I just enjoy seeing the puzzled look on their face when I say that I would only believe in God if given a reasonable amount of proof. "What, you need proof to accept a theory as to how everything that is, has been, and ever will be was created? Holy fuck, that is incomprehensible".

You have no proof to support your theory that God doesn't exist. How is that any different?

You didn't understand me. I don't believe in god doesn't exist, because I don't see any proof that he does exist. If I did, well hell, I'd believe in him. But my mind just won't allow me to believe a theory unless it has some sort of ground to stand on.

Count me in..been an Atheist for around 2 years or so. Personally, religious people don't make me angry at all, just the annoying ones that ask me if I'm an Atheist and then make a big scene about it.

I don't advertise my beliefs at all.

count me in too, i just cannot understand why religion causes so much trouble.

Arise, thread, arise! Fade not into BBS obscurity, but stay the course, fresh with new material!

So what do guys think of The United States being "unable to find a distributor" for the new film Creation?

At 9/22/09 12:27 AM, MultiCanimefan wrote: So what do guys think of The United States being "unable to find a distributor" for the new film Creation?

It'll only be a matter of time until some militant atheist or fence-sitter distributors jump up on it. There IS money in the film, and it's highly likely that somebody with the resources to do so out there will be willing to piss off the religious in the U.S in order to capitalize on it. My opinion on it though is that it's a very sad thing indeed. Just another sign that the elitists running the show in the U.S. are more concerned with spreading propaganda then educating its citizens. You'd think that they would want the youth of the nation to be learned in everything as opposed to sheltered and oppressed, but what can you do? MOVE TO CANADA. That's what.

At 9/23/09 10:10 AM, michelinman wrote: Just another sign that the elitists running the show in the U.S. are more concerned with spreading propaganda then educating its citizens.

I'm not aware of this film in any way but I'm going to go ahead and assume its not very nice to Mr. God.
So I wouldn't say its a case of them wanting to spread progadanda and more of a case of not wanting to be harrassed and threatened by death threats from pissed of religious types.

At 9/23/09 10:31 AM, Nev wrote: I'm not aware of this film in any way but I'm going to go ahead and assume its not very nice to Mr. God.
So I wouldn't say its a case of them wanting to spread progadanda and more of a case of not wanting to be harrassed and threatened by death threats from pissed of religious types.

I didn't know either til animefan brought it up, so I wikipedia'd the bitch. It's the story of Charles Darwin struggling between his devotion to his very religious wife while working on a theory that would potentially be taken as an attack against religion. Unless there's something I'm missing out on, the film doesn't seem to be offensive or an attack against religion in any way. It's just a movie. I'm pretty pissed that no distributors have the balls to pick it up in todays society to be honest. I really do hate this country sometimes. :/

At 9/13/09 06:53 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote: I can infer this because according to the Bible,

That's where I stopped reading. It is illogical to treat the Bible as fact or fiction.

At 9/26/09 12:03 AM, HighJack wrote:

At 9/13/09 06:53 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote: I can infer this because according to the Bible,

That's where I stopped reading. It is illogical to treat the Bible as fact or fiction.

Very true. It is irrelevant whether or not the bible is the word of god or not. For suuure.