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At 8/5/05 12:26 AM, Empanado wrote:

At 8/4/05 11:59 AM, billytheradponi wrote: If I was God

You're not God. You don't know how God works and/or thinks.
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Good thing you don't either ehh?

At 8/5/05 01:57 AM, heihachi wrote: Your command of the English language is astounding: if only your artwork was half as decent as your posts, you would be a veritable modern day Picasso (a dirty Spanish whore).

I have my sarcasm-meter off right now, so I'll just chuckle and go with a "Gee, thanks".

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Anyways. Discussing the nature of God could make for a very interesting debate, if it wasn't for the fact that he is, well, y'know, God. We could reach pesky speculations at most, because anything that we come up with can be dismissed by saying "What if that's what he WANTS us to believe?".

God = God. We =/= God. If said theoretical God was indeed evil, who cares? If he actually created us, then being evil would be good.

At 8/5/05 03:51 PM, darknezz1 wrote: Good thing you don't either ehh?

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. None of us knows. Therefore, trying to justify one's views with "If I were God(...)" is retarded.

At 8/5/05 01:00 PM, name_man_321 wrote:

We have free will wich meens that humans a good by defult but after Adam and Eve sinned the earth has declined into evil ever since God is love that is in the Bible

Well If God is all knowing.. He knew when he made Adam that Adam would sin.. And so When God created Adam he knowingly created a sinner and therefore knowingly created sin.....

And no eternal damnation is when you do not believe that

A: God created everything including me you and everyone else

B: That Jesus (son of God) died for our sins

So wait a secoind.... My father.. Whose love for me is endless.. OIs willing to allow me to suffer for eternity, just because I didnt live my life the way wanted......?

I don't think their is any god. People lied aboat the easter bunny. What could stop them from bigger lies like god?

At 8/5/05 02:17 PM, Dranigus wrote:

I have read the bible and all that nonesense was created by several men of which most of which have never met nor heard any of Jesus's words. And Genesis might as well been created by people that were high on drugs following the satanic words of ancient propaganda.

There was no fucking reason to make a long ass post. All i did was disprove your statement using the damn bible because this thread is about God. Ass.

At 8/5/05 09:11 PM, TimeFrame wrote:

At 8/5/05 02:17 PM, Dranigus wrote:

I have read the bible and all that nonesense was created by several men of which most of which have never met nor heard any of Jesus's words. And Genesis might as well been created by people that were high on drugs following the satanic words of ancient propaganda.

There was no fucking reason to make a long ass post. All i did was disprove your statement using the damn bible because this thread is about God. Ass.

You disproved nothing all you did was prove just how ignorant and stupid you really are. Stop acting like a baby and grow up.

The Bible doesn't mean squat since it was made by men and not some sort of all knowing and all powerful being, you call "god."

At 8/5/05 10:58 PM, Dranigus wrote:

At 8/5/05 09:11 PM, TimeFrame wrote:

At 8/5/05 02:17 PM, Dranigus wrote:

I have read the bible and all that nonesense was created by several men of which most of which have never met nor heard any of Jesus's words. And Genesis might as well been created by people that were high on drugs following the satanic words of ancient propaganda.

There was no fucking reason to make a long ass post. All i did was disprove your statement using the damn bible because this thread is about God. Ass.

You disproved nothing all you did was prove just how ignorant and stupid you really are. Stop acting like a baby and grow up.

The Bible doesn't mean squat since it was made by men and not some sort of all knowing and all powerful being, you call "god."

Okay, let's set a few things straight...Christianity is nothing more than an infantile religion which stemned from Judaism(which is several thousand years older) The Christians have, in many ways, formed their own form of religious worship and beliefs in occordance with a supposed "divine plan".

Now...that out of the way...the bible was said to have been written by man, inspired by God...now I know...prove that it was inspired by God...well, prove it wasn't. The Jews did not possess a "Bible" as we know it today, the "Bible" is actually the translation of the deadsea scrolls by King James(hence, the King James Version). These were the original texts supposedly written by divinely inspired hands.

The main point is that God...eternal life in Heaven or damnation...Hell...Satan...angels...demons
...they're all speculation. The whole of our world is steeped in mystery...we are continually surrounded by the unknown. Nothing has been proven or disproven in this thread since in order to either prove or disprove a hypothesis or theory one requires physical evidence and hard facts.

As brazen an individual as I am, I still believe in a higher power, because as Voltaire once stated, "You cannot expect me to believe that there is a watch and no watchmaker." But, yet again, this is merely speculation and guess work on my end. So...I'll probably get flammed...or some brash individual with high spirits and a fist of iron idiocy will fly in sword drawn, banner flying and attempt to slay the evil demons that have come to land in the world of pointless theories and utter chaotic bickering.

~Zeh Black Cross

At 8/4/05 11:39 AM, PhysicsMafia wrote: god gave man free will to do as he pleased, it also says that in the bible.

God did not give man free will. If he did, he would've never created the Christian Coalition.

At 8/5/05 11:53 PM, StealthSteve wrote:

At 8/5/05 11:28 PM, xXxBlackCrossxXx wrote: the "Bible" is actually the translation of the deadsea scrolls by King James(hence, the King James Version). These were the original texts supposedly written by divinely inspired hands.

uhhh, the dead sea scrolls weren't discovered until the 20th century.

Okay...so...let me get something straight...you're saying that it is an entirely illogical thought process to believe that maybe...just possibly the dead sea scrols know whereabouts were available in the days of King James...then were lost and rediscovered in later times......the thing is, the "Bible" was translated from the ancient hebrew texts. It's not like the reign of King James was so unfathomably far away that they couldn't have gotten lost somewhere.....the funny thing about scinece and discovery...people know and have discovered a lot more than they're willing to tell the general public immediately...they also load down their theorums and whatnot with crap an other unnecessary information that is either A) totally irrelevant or B) draws the eyes of the individual they're trying to reach away from the truth and towards their own version of the truth. Discovery...please... Here's the basic rundown. Some dudes got together...they wrote a book...well...scrolls at the time. They claimed it came from God All Mighty(the words...not the book/scroll). Some guy named King James had these texts translated...*POOF* the Bible...there, happy?

Uhhh.

Trust me, if King James commisioned the translation of the Dead Sea Scrolls, he would have blathered about that as well.

At 8/6/05 12:10 AM, Maus wrote: Uhhh.

Trust me, if King James commisioned the translation of the Dead Sea Scrolls, he would have blathered about that as well.

*strokes chin* Hmm...this statement does hold validity...Good point, well spoken. In anycase...previous point reiterated...the bible has technically been written twice...a lot can be lost in translation. King Jimmy had a thing for books...Christianity is a n infantile religion...and I'm done.

~Zeh Black Cross

At 8/6/05 12:25 AM, StealthSteve wrote:

At 8/6/05 12:07 AM, xXxBlackCrossxXx wrote: Okay...so...let me get something straight...you're saying that it is an entirely illogical thought process to believe that maybe...just possibly the dead sea scrols know whereabouts were available in the days of King James...then were lost and rediscovered in later times......

yeah, i suppose i am.

do you know even know how they were discovered? do you know where the Dead Sea is? do you have any clue how far England is from it, and the actual logistics behind them 1) finding the scrolls in the cave, 2) transporting them to England, 3) King James doing the translating (even though he couldn't read or write Hebrew, at all), and then 4) ever-so-generously bringing them back to the same cave they were found in...without ever mentioning any word of it to anyone, or leaving any evidence of their presence or discovery.

i dunno, it kinda does strike me as illogical.

Okay...dude...I never said King Jim decided to translate them himself...he had them translated...le duh. You're also not taking into account possibility of thives..robber...marauders...things of this nature that could havelanded it back in it's nice home port......but then again you must ahve missed the rest of my post. It was there that I stated that this was not the point. I could be wrong...so prove it...show me physical evidence that it happened that way.

Black Cross Out.

~Zeh Black Cross

At 8/6/05 12:48 AM, StealthSteve wrote:

At 8/6/05 12:32 AM, xXxBlackCrossxXx wrote: I could be wrong...so prove it...show me physical evidence that it happened that way.

nahh, howsabout you show me evidence that you have even a slight understanding of the known history of the Dead Sea Scrolls and i just might continue to reply to your silly speculations regarding it's unknown history.

and yeah, i saw the rest of the post, but this is what i decided to talk about instead of the whole "where did the Bible really come from and how has it changed and how does it affect us" thing...i mean, if you can't get past this one part, why should i bother getting into the rest? besides, that's some shit i've talked about a bazillion times already on this forum...its much easier to pick out glaring inaccuracies in other people's posts than to state my own beliefs on the matter for the umpteenth time already just to have people glean over it to say even more goofy shit.

Truth of the matter is...not only do I know nothing of it's history, but neither do you. We take what we read an research as truth. Htere is no guarantee that it is fact. Yes, I realize this sounds like an attempt to justify myself...and perhaps it is. However, what I should have typed in the beginning was "-from the deadsea scrolls...ror whichever ones they were-" But then, although you would not have this particular ammo belt for that .50 you seem to tote around, you would most likely have picked up a different one somewhere in the post. *shrugs* I came in to make a point, not start a debate over whether or not the deadsea scrolls were indeed used in the translation of the Bible. You'll have to forgive my inability to see into the future an predict that I will have to reword my posts grammatic structue due to trogladyte resistance in the inner sanctum of logic.

~Zeh Black Cross

god doesn't care thus I don't care. If evil happens and I see it, its God's doing for a more meaningful purpose so I leave it be, if something good happens I take credit. Its a perfect system

At 8/4/05 12:45 PM, Family_Gay wrote: GOD WILL SAVE YOUR HEATHEN SOUL! REPENT!

Shut the fuck up you faggot alt, and if you aren't an alt, I fear for your life

serously tough (if god exist) i think hes dormant asleep or imprisoned or busy with the devil i mean dormant seems most logical god used to make his precinse known 24/7 but now hes gone and i g2g ill finsih later

There's no point in discussing whether God is evil or not. God doesnt exist. There's no proof except for the bible, which also hasnt been proven, god and religon was created to contol people with fear centuries ago, unfortunatly people still take it seriously. I know some people think the christian way is a good way of living but they still live in fear, if they dont belive in god they will go to hell. they fear for other peoples souls. Christian people also dont have confidence in themselves. When ever they achive something its all down to god not there own ability. Im ranting now so ill stop....

At 8/6/05 10:42 AM, StealthSteve wrote:

At 8/6/05 09:54 AM, Rabid_Werewolf wrote: There's no point in discussing whether God is evil or not. God doesnt exist. There's no proof except for the bible, which also hasnt been proven, god and religon was created to contol people with fear centuries ago, unfortunatly people still take it seriously.

"no proof except for the bible"

funniest thing i've read today...but hey, it's still early.

i mean, you DO realize that Christianity is not the first nor the only religion ever created, right? do you even know anything about pre-Christian or Asian religions and philosophies? explain to me how those were created to control people with fear. actually, you probably couldn't even explain how Judeo-Christian religions were created to control people with fear, since it seems you have a very limited understanding of them to begin with.

*chuckles* I may not know too terribly much about the deadsea scrolls, but I'll have to side with steve on this one. He presents a valid point. My arguement on the deadsea scrolls was actually just to cover up the fact that I threw something aroundt hat meant one thing but insiuated another...but history of religion in itsself is another matter entirely, and Steve does present a strong arguement.

Cross Out.

~Zeh Black Cross

In giving "Free will" then it only means that God "would sit that one out" and let us do as we feel. but that would be immpossible since God is omnipotent and omniscent. so if he is really omnibenevolent then he would not be able to sit out and watch because he loves all and has the power to stop the slaugter but he's all powerful so he can stop him self, but hes all loving... and so on and so forth.

P.S. it's all bullshit anyway. God may be God but i don't think he's pure good or powerful to the extent in christian belief. On any other religion as a matter of fact.

At 8/6/05 10:42 AM, StealthSteve wrote:

i mean, you DO realize that Christianity is not the first nor the only religion ever created, right? do you even know anything about pre-Christian or Asian religions and philosophies? explain to me how those were created to control people with fear. actually, you probably couldn't even explain how Judeo-Christian religions were created to control people with fear, since it seems you have a very limited understanding of them to begin with.

Some religions werent creatd to induce fear.. Some were creatd o make people happy and so they would not need to worry about where we came from at a time when they clearly had no idea... Some were created to establish a system of morality, etc...... I believe the catholic church are the ones responsible for using fear to control people.. Its what they did when they ran europe.....

God gives us Life.........And he lets us make our OWN decsions....If your a murderer thats your Life not Gods thats why he dosent stop people from killing people because he knows that your gonna get punished when you die so he thinks "To hell with them" LITERALLY so make your decsions Carfully.

At 8/5/05 10:58 PM, Dranigus wrote:

You disproved nothing all you did was prove just how ignorant and stupid you really are. Stop acting like a baby and grow up.

Im not acting like a baby. Im telling the truth. I used the bible to disprove your statement, see, it's disproved by bible terms! Moron.

The Bible doesn't mean squat since it was made by men and not some sort of all knowing and all powerful being, you call "god."

You're such a fucking idiot. You put up a topic about God. You would expect to get your info. from the bible. But instead, when someone uses it, all you do is hide behind your bullshit statements like "the bible doesnt mean squat".

You grow up you little dumbshit.

Brilliant resolution handelling, Black Cross.

In reality I don't think God is actually evil, but in the manner in which people associate him or her or they as being the ultimate form of good, is what makes God evil. So its really man, not the divine being on religion that is corrupt.

Because we don't know anything about our creator nor do we actually know anything about who ever that resides as the head authoritive being over existence.

At 8/6/05 02:06 PM, TimeFrame wrote:

At 8/5/05 10:58 PM, Dranigus wrote:

You disproved nothing all you did was prove just how ignorant and stupid you really are. Stop acting like a baby and grow up.

Im not acting like a baby. Im telling the truth. I used the bible to disprove your statement, see, it's disproved by bible terms! Moron.

The Bible doesn't mean squat since it was made by men and not some sort of all knowing and all powerful being, you call "god."

You're such a fucking idiot. You put up a topic about God. You would expect to get your info. from the bible. But instead, when someone uses it, all you do is hide behind your bullshit statements like "the bible doesnt mean squat".

You grow up you little dumbshit.

You grow up, I am already acting my age, unlike you a wee 2 year old whinning about this and that which really doesn't even matter at all.

Used the bible? Nah you didn't use the bible, you were using a translated version of the bible created by an insane and opium addicted clown. Try and disprove that with your "bible" dickweed. Bible Terms? Hardly, more like an insane hand gesture followed by foaming and spitting at your own monitor, seriously you need help. LMAO!!!

I am quite sure some windex will help clean that mess up you did. LOL!!!

You're such a fucking idiot. You put up a topic about God. You would expect to get your info. from the bible. But instead, when someone uses it, all you do is hide behind your bullshit statements like "the bible doesnt mean squat"."

Wasn't it also in the bible by Jesus that you should never associate the religion in politics, wow you follow along with this idiocy crafted by your "false" book of god, yet you don't even bother to follow along with the example your "great mentor" gave to you and you call yourself a christian. LMAO!!!!

The bible surely can't mean anything if it has been continuously retranslated over and over again by head religious figures to scare followers into submitting their will and power to the catholic church (of course this was well before the Religious Revolution of Martin Luther). And if you don't agree with me then I suggest you go back to your "bible" studies classes and take a little look into 1400's and medieval Europe. If you wanna go by a true "bible", try doing so under the actual one crafted by Jesus himself, but I bet you weren't even aware of that.

If you want me to grow up anymore then I'd surely perish from old age. Hey there little sonny, got any laffy taffy for your old man.