God...is he evil? YES!

[Billytheradponi]

I know you will all probably hate me for this, but I have to say that I believe God (you know the Christian one) after learning about him in RS (hours of bordem) I have come to believe he is evil...
Man is evil, he is greedy, savage and never thinks before he acts, the Bible also states that man is an image through God (or something like that) so God is evil too. He also has powers over Earth doesn't he? Well why does he let us continue to slaughter each other, the same goes for the other Gods (that have the power to stop our killing) why don't they stop it, because there evil. Sorry to say it, but they are my views and if anyone wants to argue you can email me or talk on msn here:[e-mail]

[PhysicsMafia]

At 8/4/05 11:33 AM, billytheradponi wrote:
blablabla, religious bashing crap, (much similar to all other religious threads)

god gave man free will to do as he pleased, it also says that in the bible.

[Billytheradponi]

But then God has freewill and power too, so he just watches us kill each other, without stopping it, see it's just evil...

[Maus]

At 8/4/05 11:46 AM, billytheradponi wrote: But then God has freewill and power too, so he just watches us kill each other, without stopping it, see it's just evil...

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Or we've been given free will and have made an absolute mess of it.

[Billytheradponi]

But then we wouldn't be an image in God, so the bible is contradicting itself.

[PhysicsMafia]

At 8/4/05 11:48 AM, Maus wrote:

At 8/4/05 11:46 AM, billytheradponi wrote: But then God has freewill and power too, so he just watches us kill each other, without stopping it, see it's just evil...

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Or we've been given free will and have made an absolute mess of it.

my point exactly, if he gave us free will it would be a bit hypocritical to then interfere.

[PhysicsMafia]

At 8/4/05 11:53 AM, billytheradponi wrote: But then we wouldn't be an image in God, so the bible is contradicting itself.

WHAT?? the image, as in look like not as in think like. when someone says u are "the image" of ur dad or something like that they mean u hav a similar look not that u are the exact copy of him in every way.

the bible is full of contradiction, the OT and NT are like opposite poles they differ so much, but u have to interpret it, not just take it word for word

[Billytheradponi]

If I was God (I wish) and I saw all this happening, I wold at least try to do something to help, Gods true crime is that he does nothing.

[PhysicsMafia]

At 8/4/05 11:59 AM, billytheradponi wrote: If I was God (I wish) and I saw all this happening, I wold at least try to do something to help, Gods true crime is that he does nothing.

and that is why u are not god......

gods true crime?, can an omnipotent being be acused of a crime?theres not really anyone to be held accountable to is there.

heres an example, a parable if u like..

one day ur out on ur bike and u fall off, cut urself up and are in general pretty sore.now years on ur litte brother is learning to ride his bike, do u say no he can never learn because he may hurt himself or do u offer words of advice and encouragement but let him learn anyway.

now in this case:

you = god
little brother = humanity
bike = free will and ability to sin
advice = bible

[Billytheradponi]

Yeah ok I see your point but i'm talkeing about war and fighting, it shouldn't be allowed but he still allows it, it's like the Romans gladiatorial fights just over the world.

[PhysicsMafia]

its all part of the deal, we have freedom here to do as we will, but if we fuck up then its hell for eternity, if we are good then its heaven. wars are just part of that free will, it helps weed out those not suited for an eternity of happiness

[Dilapsor]

It's simple.

God wants us to make our own decisions in life regarding how to live happily and how to attain salvation. All the horror in the world is part of that freewill and decision making that He blessed us with, and as with any gift, you have to accept the bad things that can come of it. There was a time when we lived in perfection with no violence or death or pain, but we made a conscious decision to diobey him; thus losing that privalege.

Also God wants us to come to him, to submit to him, to see him on our own time. If God simply made us stop fighting, it would go against the freedom we were cursed with in Eden which would cause a terrible mess. He also doesn't want to directly intervene because no matter how benevolent the intervention would be, it would terrify the masses.

If God were to right now put an end to all the horror in the world it would be grossly unfair. While bad things have been known to happen to very good people, bad things will always happen to bad people. To take away pain and suffering would take away justice.

Besides, we are not perfect beings. We are going to die from war, sickness, and famine because we brought it upon ourselves.

[BillCosby]

GOD WILL SAVE YOUR HEATHEN SOUL! REPENT!

[SuperRico]

the whole free will thing has factor in his i guess, but man isn't naturally mean, some are but not all, money is usually the defying factor in all this, if we had no money everything would be alot easier, all we would do would be wander around a fuck for amusement, thats a world thats easy on the eyes

[Dilapsor]

At 8/4/05 01:12 PM, SuperRico wrote: the whole free will thing has factor in his i guess, but man isn't naturally mean, some are but not all, money is usually the defying factor in all this, if we had no money everything would be alot easier, all we would do would be wander around a fuck for amusement, thats a world thats easy on the eyes

Sorta like the savages in Africa right now, or ever, right?

The "noble savage" idea has been shot more times than a Kurdish baby and frankly I'm surprised that it's still even entertained.

[thecrimsonsidewalk]

GOD,ALLAH,JAWHE... sometimes help people , sometimes not, depends on it
if GOD doesnt help , like you say , it will happen in the afterlife.
GOD does help alot, you just dont now it , like your computer ,you got luckie you cant affrod one,in africa poor childeren cant afford one, but they still get helped ,by people who believe in god they will be alright in the afterlife.
GOD .... evil ? think aigan

[revexe]

At 8/4/05 11:33 AM, billytheradponi wrote: I know you will all probably hate me for this, but I have to say that I believe God..

LOL, newbies.

[hypern]

What you say about god, god is there, there are reasons why bad thngs happen, you could say a bad thing happens to a nation, centuryies later, that counrty shapes the world. It may be evil, it loses and it makes the world closer together.

[seventy-one]

At 8/4/05 11:33 AM, billytheradponi wrote: I know you will all probably hate me for this, but I have to say that I believe God (you know the Christian one)

and the muslim one and jewish one I assume because I didn't know they worshiped different gods

Man is evil, he is greedy, savage and never thinks before he acts, the Bible also states that man is an image through God (or something like that) so God is evil too. He also has powers over Earth doesn't he? Well why does he let us continue to slaughter each other, the same goes for the other Gods.

It all depends on what you believe in. Maybe he's letting us kill each other so we can learn from our own experiences, that war is bad. Maybe he uses murder and criminal acts as a way of judgement to send people to heaven or hell. Again, its just what you believe in.

[DaRKNeZz1]

At 8/4/05 12:45 PM, Family_Gay wrote: GOD WILL SAVE YOUR HEATHEN SOUL! REPENT!

*sighs* I never really thought that people like you, or I should say pokemon trainer age 13.

[hypern]

on the other hand, the incidents of bad things can be a coincidence, could be a mix of both.

What if, god had only limited power, i.e he could make things, but he wasn't allowed to intervene, unless it's seroious. He was controlle by wsomelse els, like a onipiment race.

Let's see what you say to that ?

[Me-Patch]

yeah God's evil there's a new one for the BBS

[heihachi]

At 8/4/05 11:33 AM, billytheradponi wrote: I know you will all probably hate me for this, but I have to say that I believe God (you know the Christian one) after learning about him in RS (hours of bordem) I have come to believe he is evil...

No, God is dead...and we have killed him. As has been mentioned earlier in the thread, the Judeo-Christian concept of Creation is that God made man in his own image, albeit with free will. With said will, mankind has killed, raped, and enslaved each other over the years to the point where one might turn on the TV, hear of a grisly murder and not so much as blink.

The Christian concept of God further states his love for mankind (note the covenant with Abraham and the decision to never again exterminate humankind after the Flood) and thus, puts Him in a rather difficult position. He loves his creation, yet man is constantly finding better and more effective ways for oppressing his fellow man. And thus, God is dead-the pain of seeing his people destroy themselves simply being too much to bear.

[gary-percival]

At 8/4/05 03:15 PM, The_Tank wrote: yeah God's evil there's a new one for the BBS

shite were running out of new topics if weve got here

[beelzebuba]

At 8/4/05 11:33 AM, billytheradponi wrote: I know you will all probably hate me for this, but I have to say that I believe God (you know the Christian one) after learning about him in RS (hours of bordem) I have come to believe he is evil...
Man is evil, he is greedy, savage and never thinks before he acts, the Bible also states that man is an image through God (or something like that) so God is evil too. He also has powers over Earth doesn't he? Well why does he let us continue to slaughter each other, the same goes for the other Gods (that have the power to stop our killing) why don't they stop it, because there evil. Sorry to say it, but they are my views and if anyone wants to argue you can email me or talk on msn here:[e-mail]

because pointless slaughter kicks ass...why else do you think people do it...you should try...and worship satan and stuff too, because that kind of stuff also kicks ass

[Dilapsor]

At 8/4/05 05:01 PM, heihachi wrote: The Christian concept of God further states his love for mankind (note the covenant with Abraham and the decision to never again exterminate humankind after the Flood) and thus, puts Him in a rather difficult position. He loves his creation, yet man is constantly finding better and more effective ways for oppressing his fellow man. And thus, God is dead-the pain of seeing his people destroy themselves simply being too much to bear.

That's interesting. You do realize that the covenant said:

"Behold, I establish My covenant with you and your descendants after you, and with every living creature that is with you, the birds, the cattle, and every beast of the earth with you, as many as came out of the ark. I establish My covenant with you, that never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of a flood, and never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth." And God said, "This is the sign of the covenant which I make between Me and you and every living creature that is with you, for all future generations: I set My bow in the cloud, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between Me and the earth. When I bring clouds over the earth and the bow is seen in the clouds, I will remember My covenant which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh." (Genesis 9:9-15 RSV)

He promised never to destroy them again with water. Everything else is pretty much fair game.

[Memorize]

At 8/4/05 11:59 AM, billytheradponi wrote: If I was God (I wish) and I saw all this happening, I wold at least try to do something to help, Gods true crime is that he does nothing.

Its a little something called the bible moron.

[gary-percival]

At 8/4/05 05:59 PM, TimeFrame wrote:

At 8/4/05 11:59 AM, billytheradponi wrote: If I was God (I wish) and I saw all this happening, I wold at least try to do something to help, Gods true crime is that he does nothing.

Its a little something called the bible moron.

there is no god to be evil.

[DaRKNeZz1]

Well god (if he exists) isn't evil, his followers are. All they do is eat grass every morning, maybe drink some water then go to sleep.

[gary-percival]

At 8/4/05 06:08 PM, darknezz1 wrote: Well god (if he exists) isn't evil, his followers are. All they do is eat grass every morning, maybe drink some water then go to sleep.

so your calling christians cows?