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At 7/31/05 09:12 PM, Jimsween wrote:

. Just because they will be harmed in the process doesn't mean they wont do it. Besides, when it comes to Saudi Arabia and China, often the blackmailing involves us keeping the dictators in power, and dictators are often more content in staying in power than keeping thier country strong.

Ask the Taliban how easy it is to stay in power when you piss off the US.

At 7/31/05 09:25 PM, madzakk wrote: Ask the Taliban how easy it is to stay in power when you piss off the US.

How many treasury bonds did the Taliban have?

My point exactly.

At 7/31/05 09:11 PM, Tragic_Mime wrote:

At 7/31/05 07:36 PM, Vladek wrote: Nevertheless--
There's not even one news source that I couldn't find...

So if the maker could post something-- thanks.

Ah, sorry. I was planning on just sitting back and watching you all tear yourselves apart/get into a Mexican-hating mob, and I had to stop, getting ready for school. >> You know how that is, Vlad, Im sure.

Of course.
School is a bitch. That's why I'm vacationing hard core. Just sit around, do whatever I want. While some of my friends are in Europe wasting a few hundred dollars, I decided to stick around and be a bum. Won't get the European experiance, but at least I'm having fun just not being busy.

Rusty Humphries, Michael Savage.

sorry, no dates. I just heard it on the radio and took it into stride. Then took some anti-deppressants.

Savage Nation isn't a news source... it's talk radio, and one that has a clear stance as an illegal immigration opponent.

As far as I know,
They could have based it on some news source, but since I haven't read anything on the net... eh.

At 7/31/05 09:29 PM, Jimsween wrote:

At 7/31/05 09:25 PM, madzakk wrote: Ask the Taliban how easy it is to stay in power when you piss off the US.

How many treasury bonds did the Taliban have?

My point exactly.

It's a weapon, once used, is then useless. They're not going to destroy themselves to destroy the US. BTW, Japan is not a dictatorship.

At 7/31/05 09:40 PM, Vladek wrote:

At 7/31/05 09:11 PM, Tragic_Mime wrote:

At 7/31/05 07:36 PM, Vladek wrote: Nevertheless--
There's not even one news source that I couldn't find...

So if the maker could post something-- thanks.

Ah, sorry. I was planning on just sitting back and watching you all tear yourselves apart/get into a Mexican-hating mob, and I had to stop, getting ready for school. >> You know how that is, Vlad, Im sure.

Of course.
School is a bitch. That's why I'm vacationing hard core. Just sit around, do whatever I want. While some of my friends are in Europe wasting a few hundred dollars, I decided to stick around and be a bum. Won't get the European experiance, but at least I'm having fun just not being busy.

Rusty Humphries, Michael Savage.

sorry, no dates. I just heard it on the radio and took it into stride. Then took some anti-deppressants.

Savage Nation isn't a news source... it's talk radio, and one that has a clear stance as an illegal immigration opponent.

As far as I know,
They could have based it on some news source, but since I haven't read anything on the net... eh.

Ah. Well, at least we agree on something. School is for chumps! No, Im sorry. I shouldnt say that, Or Ill end up like some of those Anti-Americans around here. Savage DOES do news, its just that he usually spends 45 minutes on his opinion. Rusty Humphries is a republican news/talkshow host, so I guess what he says doesnt matter?

At 7/31/05 09:53 PM, madzakk wrote: It's a weapon, once used, is then useless. They're not going to destroy themselves to destroy the US. BTW, Japan is not a dictatorship.

None of those countries are destroyed if the US goes into economic depression.

At 7/31/05 08:06 PM, TimeFrame wrote: My friend's parents were born in mexico. Then they arrived in the US legally and they both absolutely hate illigals and wish that america would take every single one they know about and boot them back to their "shithole" (their words).

I applaud legal immigrants, like that. It does my heart good to see folks from other countries being properly assimilated into Americans.
If all legal immigrants were like this, it'd be a step in the right direction. We need those from Mexico themselves to denounce illegal and immoral border crossings.

At 7/31/05 10:04 PM, Jimsween wrote:

At 7/31/05 09:53 PM, madzakk wrote: It's a weapon, once used, is then useless. They're not going to destroy themselves to destroy the US. BTW, Japan is not a dictatorship.

None of those countries are destroyed if the US goes into economic depression.

In mad's defense...if America faced a serious economic depression, it would affect the entire global market. It'd especially affect countries like China.

China needs America as much as America needs China.

At 7/31/05 10:04 PM, Jimsween wrote:

At 7/31/05 09:53 PM, madzakk wrote: It's a weapon, once used, is then useless. They're not going to destroy themselves to destroy the US. BTW, Japan is not a dictatorship.

None of those countries are destroyed if the US goes into economic depression.

Last time it happened (The Great Depression) it caused a global economic depression.

At 7/31/05 10:10 PM, madzakk wrote: Last time it happened (The Great Depression) it caused a global economic depression.

You mean European, and, in fact, that was already there because of WW1. If anything our depression came from that.

At 7/31/05 10:12 PM, Jimsween wrote:

You mean European, and, in fact, that was already there because of WW1. If anything our depression came from that.

More like too many investments being bought on margin, then, with a small economic downturn, people were calling their markers and the money wasn't there. From there, it spiralled out of control.

At 7/31/05 10:22 PM, Tal-con wrote:

After the war?! Hell, we could take them right now. It'd be the next blitzkreig if you ask me.

HEADLINE: US takes over Mexico, stops illigal immigration!

At 7/31/05 10:24 PM, TimeFrame wrote:

At 7/31/05 10:22 PM, Tal-con wrote:

After the war?! Hell, we could take them right now. It'd be the next blitzkreig if you ask me.

HEADLINE: US takes over Mexico, stops illigal immigration!

Sounds good at first untill the potential illegal aliens find out they can get welfare!

At 7/31/05 10:26 PM, madzakk wrote:

Sounds good at first untill the potential illegal aliens find out they can get welfare!

uhh...

HEADLINE: US says "Fuck you" to potential wetbacks!

At 7/31/05 10:17 PM, madzakk wrote: More like too many investments being bought on margin, then, with a small economic downturn, people were calling their markers and the money wasn't there. From there, it spiralled out of control.

I said if anything.

At 7/31/05 10:28 PM, TimeFrame wrote:

At 7/31/05 10:26 PM, madzakk wrote:

Sounds good at first untill the potential illegal aliens find out they can get welfare!

uhh...

HEADLINE: US says "Fuck you" to potential wetbacks!

Nice try, but the US always seems to dump large amounts of money on nations we attack!

One way to limit illegal immigration, and probably the easiest is to prohibit the transferring of currency (via services like Western Union) to other countries unless you can show proof of citizenship or legal residency. Most illegal immigrants come over here to make money, which they send back to family in Mexico. While I don't have the exact figures (nor do I feel like looking for them now) such money transfers is one of the largest forms of income in Mexico, behind oil and a couple of other income sources.

Why don't we do what we do best? Strong arm mexico into doing what we want them to do. If they won't cut off the immigration, we cut off all trade, tourism and transportation to Mexico whatsoever. May be drastic, but after a few years of economic vacany they would be willing to talk on our terms.

Solutions? 2 of them.

Lasers and laser walls. Trust me, its worth it.

At 8/1/05 12:22 AM, Camarohusky wrote: Why don't we do what we do best?

You mean like Cuba, but on a much larger scale?

Good thought, but when the people are even more broke than they are now, do you think it will slow or excelerate the illegal immigration rates? I think it would increase huge.

At 8/1/05 12:50 AM, bcdemon wrote:

At 8/1/05 12:22 AM, Camarohusky wrote: Why don't we do what we do best?

You mean like Cuba, but on a much larger scale?

Good thought, but when the people are even more broke than they are now, do you think it will slow or excelerate the illegal immigration rates? I think it would increase huge.

But if in 2 years we get mexico to trap it people in, eventually that short sharp increase will be mitigated by a long period of very very low numbers. It's like paying for college. You spend a shit load now so that you can earn money to pay it off later.

At 7/31/05 04:17 PM, Tragic_Mime wrote: I say we invade Mexico after the war.

All I ask is for a strong Mexican or American company to take roots in Mexico so they can make more than enough money to start establishing themselves over there.

It will give me the privilage of laughing at the rest United States when they start bitching that no one wants their shitting entry-level jobs anymore.

At 7/31/05 04:17 PM, Tragic_Mime wrote: America seeks for help in illegal immagration, primarily from Mexico. Bush addressed this issue to Vincente Fox, the ruler-guy from Mexico, and the reply was:

Basically, if we dont give in to this blackmail, we are screwed, and Mexico is gonna sit on their oil well, laughing at us being overrun. I say we invade Mexico after the war.

Quit your fucking bitching and whining then do something about it then. If your going to bitch and cry and not do anything to try and stop it, then quit.

"I think we should invade mexico after this war".....................You dumb fuck, that's all you can think of, invading other fucking countrys becuase you don't like something they do? Wow, i'm very fucking glad the rest of the world doesn't think this way. You would be dead along with every other fucking person in the US if other countrys thought that way.

Cya inbred.

Nuke Mexico City. Problem solved.

so will somone give me a serious response to whats wrong with a wall, besides that it would give us a bad rep

At 8/1/05 11:16 PM, DewNapalm wrote: so will somone give me a serious response to whats wrong with a wall, besides that it would give us a bad rep

Engineer a Communist revolution in Mexico. They'll build the wall and get the bad rep. Actually, what they really need is (Gasp) honest politicians who will take foreign loans and do something other than invest in US real estate.

At 8/1/05 11:16 PM, DewNapalm wrote: so will somone give me a serious response to whats wrong with a wall, besides that it would give us a bad rep

A wall? Like the one that's already in place?

Well.
Considering that walls may make good neighbors, walls are just one extra obstacles. Preventing some, but not preventing all.

It's a poor management of money (as the US has known for a while.)
True reformation comes from the reforming us. As of now, lots of companies are purposely hiring illegal immigrants, thus enabling them to stay.

The US love savings-- and yet, hate immigrants.
Really, either we have to learn to spend a little bit extra, and boycot Walmart, McDonalds, etc.-- we don't really have much reason to belly ache.

just like what Ronald Regan said to the USSR: "Tear down this wall!" but built a new one instead the shitty one on right now.

At 8/3/05 02:43 AM, GeneralMBison wrote: just like what Ronald Regan said to the USSR: "Tear down this wall!" but built a new one instead the shitty one on right now.

That still won't prevent all illegal immigration activities. Considering that you got several people crossing, often multiple times, a wall is just, really, nothing when you consider what they go through to get here.

Just as I said,
The folks enabling them to live here aren't the health care folks. Illegal immigrants often avoid health care facilities, so certain laws (like CA proposition 187, which was contended and lost BTW) are essentially useless.

Where does it start then?
From employers. If they're caught with immigrants, they essentially don't pay a dime. And what do they do? Hire some more. Places like Walmart hires illegal immigrants because they work cheap, thus enabling the consumer such drastic cuts in prices for crap like plastic lamps, talking fish mounted pieces, and 2 pound bags of acrylic yarn.

And essentially, our culture is one aspect of the problem. What do US Americans like? Fast. Easy. Cheap. Better. Big. And bigger. Want cheap fruit? Hire illegal immigrants. Don't like to pay too much to have your house painted? Go get yourself a 'pollito'. And what is a 'pollito'? It is the Spanish word for a chick... And essentially, that's what many illegal immigrants do. Huddle in clusters in front of parking lots like baby chicks as the mother hen (the employeer) comes to pick them up for a day work.

Adding walls is just one aspect of getting the problem fixed.
But to git 'r done, we gotta think about our culture and start willingly to pay extra for things that are necessary to ourselves.