At 9/10/02 03:50 PM, Jim_Commie wrote:
Im a Communist, Im the true type of communist. I believe in democracy, the original Communist state in Russia was the most democratic in the world ( for 24 hours, until lenin fucked it up big style) The reason these other countries went to communism was, because they were in a shit hole, russia was in the dark ages, Communism took them hundreds of years up to date in an extremly short period of time.
Now, we'd better get something straight here. Russia ended up controlling most of Eastern Europe after WWII. The countries became communist because they were being annexed into the USSR's empire. The countries actually didn't want to be communist. I don't know about China and Vietnam, but Eastern Europe sure as hell didn't want to be Communist.
Communism is not a religion and not a lifestyle, it should be a party and only a party, any thing else in leninism, marxism and stalinism.
Communism is an economic system. The "communist party" was invented so as to please their people with elections. However, there was only one party to vote from, the communist party, or not to vote. Don't get confused by the term "communist party," it doesn't exist. Besides, you can't just vote in new economic systems every year, your country would go bankrupt due to the strain caused by such a thing. You can either be capitalistic, or communistic. England decided to pick capitalism (however, it's tending towards the socialist side).
on another point, if have no problem with capitalism, get a life, there is a difference between free enterprise and capitalism. The Fisher family for instance, they get shit loads of money, one of the richest families in america, and their workers get less than 50p a day.
America is trying to deal with such corporate scandals, scandals that Clinton allowed to come to pass. Only until the stock market plummeted did everyone start to worry about it. It is sad that such things can happen that way, but there is a minimum wage in this country, and if one of those employees feels that the company isn't paying him a just amount for his work, he can sue.
If anything believe in democracy, and please realise that america is not free, you attempted to lock away members of the communist party during the 50s, free speach! yeah right! just like the nazis did. We are all being farmed by capitalist media. please realise you country is shit, i know mine is, other wise i wouldnt be a communist.
OOOO, what a big rebel. Dude, get a load of all the shit that just spewed out of your mouth. The so-called "Red Scare" was during the Cold War. At any time Russia could have attacked. We were being cautious. I doubt we executed them like the Nazis would have done though. You oviously think that capitalism is some kind of party. It isn't. The things you are getting confused is that there is capitalism, and communism, both economic systems, that have nothing to do with politics or propoganda. Back during the Red Scare when we said "Commies" we basically meant anyone that was in League with our enemy, the U.S.S.R. This was a war between superpowers, not their economic systems. The Russians had nuclear weapons. So did we. They were basically a totalitarian government. We were a democracy. They just happened to be communist. We just happened to be capitalist. Our economic systems had nothing to do with it. However, all we realized is that all forms of communism then had lead to totalitarian control in the countries that used it, and we took that to mean that all communists were our enemies (when in fact it was the allies of the USSR). We arrested Russian spies, who we called "Commies," cause at that time every communist regime was our enemy. In fact, they spread propoganda of their own making their people hate us. China was our enemy because they booted out our buddy Chiang Kaishek, who was the leader of the Republic of China, and replaced him with Mao, (who was communist), and also in league with Russia I believe. Mao was helping Ho Chi Minn turn Vietnam into a communist country, with aid of troops. Ho Chi Minn had planned to become a dictator, which for us is not good since it stacks the odds against us. When half the world's population is definitely against you, and only a few of your allies are willing to help you, you become a little paranoid.
Oh and here are some inconsistancies with what you said.
The "communist party" as stated above of Russia were our enemies. The nonexistant "communist party" was the U.S.S.R. itself. Members of that "party" would then have been spies. Besides what idiot would even come to the US during the 50's if he was truly a Russian? Unless he was cleared, he would have been suspicious...no?
There is no such thing as capitalistic propoganda because only groups with opinions can create such things. Capitalism is an economic system, not a party, so it cannot create propoganda (except for those Nasdaq 500 company commercials, which are just cool).
Unless you play a shitload of Metal Gear Solid 2 America is free.