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At 8/16/02 01:04 AM, Tidus_X wrote:

I can to laugh at your crappy level and know that your never going to ammount to anything on newgrounds.

i dont think levels have anything to do with it im only level 4 as of 8/16/02 i only got my accout 2 months ago but i have been going on newgrounds since 99. Accounts shouldn't be used by people that are insecure about there penis size and need something to brag about, they are only made so newbies cant BLAM good shit and fuck everything up.

oops sorry tidus_x that was what bananna_clock wrote

At 8/16/02 02:20 AM, King_Duckford wrote: Tom, this is absolute bullshit. I can't beleive you can condone this. These people who can't make good flash in the first place, now FLOOD the portal for a whole day, and you support this? This is awful! Everybody who's a member of this crew that has a complete and utter lack of talent, has sent in any thing they could cook up in 4 minutes, and you just let them flood the whole damn thing?

hes damn right. clock stuff is lazy mans flash. for once try to think of something original and stop doing the same stuff.

I don't care if I get whacked. I'm going to speak my mind, and I'm saying, this has been to much to swallow. It would be different if these guys made funny things, but there all lame. And clock day gave us nothing but examples of overused gags, and poorly done films, that flood the portal to pump up the egos of nothings.

People who actually value original and worthwhile flash, should put an end to this bullshit. And yes, I do say bullshit. This whole clock cult was a bad idea in the first place, and now all they do is sit and make bad flash, and vote 5 on every damn thing that has some piece of shit with a clock in it making it.

Muther fucking sheep is all it is. Time to drink some gin and see some more important things.

At 8/15/02 08:38 PM, TomFulp wrote: Happy Clock Day everybody! If you look through the Portal today, you'll notice even more Clock movies than usual!

Here is just a sample of the crazyness: Jason Takes Newgrounds! Be sure to watch it all!

Which of today's Clock films is your favorite?

NONE OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

How much longer is this topic gonna keep goin???? Lets start a new topic and soon this is killen me!!!

Bow to the clock ans me!!!!!!

I hate the clocks with a passion. i dont really understand the whole cutsie clock crap. i really like it when that stupid ass strawberry clock got shot that was so funny. but still can we like do away with the clocks? or am i the only one who hates them?

Tom Fulp is Strawberry clock!

Hmmmmm?

In response to your thing about the other NG wannabe sites I have a few things to say. One is that the other sites have no right to do tell people not to use your logo and that they are just a bunch of whiney pussies, but, I've also been waiting for a Pseudo-Newgrounds site to evolve that doesn't have MTV syndrom. What is MTV syndrom, you ask? Well, it's the complete commercialization and exploitation of a GOOD FUCKING IDEA. Newgrounds was fucking awesome until Tom decided to go insane with it. Tom, you can GET MONEY ON YOUR SITE WITHOUT 6000 POP UPS! The real Newgrounds fans are PISSED. We're dissapointed. You've become too involved with the advertisements. Do you remember what MTV did? They had a good network with good content and didn't have very much blatant advertisement, but then they thought "Wow, we can make alot of money off this." and sold out. The went mainstream, but in a bad way. Newgrounds has turned into a virtual MTV, and it's really fucking sad for people like me who loved it. Complete utter shit is being submitted to the portal everyday and the ratio is growing. I miss the oldies, Tom. I miss the old days of Newgrounds when we didn't have to hear all your shit about "Go to this site and I'll have more money to run Newgroudns!"... I'd really like to see Newgrounds decommercialized. I'm sick of jackass 10 year olds and stay at home mothers coming to this site all the time and bitching about the risque content. I'm sick of pure shit being submitted to the portal. I'm sick of all the fucking pop-ups. Tom, I'm all about the success of Newgrounds, but not in the way that you are getting it. Howard Stern heard about Newgrounds from a fucking prepubesant jerkoff who only came to see Britney take off her clothes. Well, fuck, if your use of porn to get visitors isn't selling out then I don't know what is. The other sites are wrong for taking your idea, but if there comes a site which is more about the content of their site than about advertising and popularity, then FUCK, I'm submitting there. No, I've never been to those sites, except DrugFilms, but you advertised that one yourself. If you care about your real fans then you will decommercialize it. You can fight it all you want, but you know that Newgrounds is not what it used to be. In some ways it is better, but in most it's worse. I love Newgrounds, and what the ORIGINAL spirit of Newgrounds is, but I'm not going to be visiting much until something is changed. Or atleast until Pico 2 is out (I've been waiting forever). I'm sorry, Tom, but the fact is Newgrounds is not what it used to be, and that's sad to me. I'm all about change, but not like this.

Just after I posted that while I was reading what I wrote a care drove right infront of my text with an ad. WHEN WILL IT FUCKING END?

PS, I hate the Clocks with a passion as well. Just because you thrive on your works being shit doesn't make them funny, or good.

At 8/17/02 06:19 AM, GaryTheCloud wrote: Fuck the Clock Crew, their sad fucking wankers who cant spell properly... on purpose!

Their just pizza-faced 12 year olds pretending to be 21 year olf 1337 h4x0rz!!!11

Wankers.

fuck u!
the clock crew rock!
even baconburger!, lol
i love the clock crews work
and wo is this happy clock day do they have some special day or something?

Hey - miss a day on Newgrounds (like I did) and you get your post buried way back at the end of the discussion thread.

Actually, Olay Clock's rendition of the Radiohead song, "Creep", which came out the same month Tom asked everyone to write their congressman protesting the upcoming "Consumer Broadband and Television Act", was the single Flash movie that inspired me to write the letter I did (mailed to the honorable Rick Santorum, March 24 - his office sent me back a form thank you).

Why did I like Olay's "Creep"? I don't know. Made me happy, I guess. I still don't know what Olay is - I think it's a type of flour, but I'm probably wrong. Anyhow, you had this thing that looks like a bag of flour fall in love with one of the girls from PBS's "Magic Schoolbus"---then he gets dumped (she's already in love with Bacon Burger Clock, although his bacon is missing, for some reason).

It seemed impossible in that letter I wrote to convey a rationale for why people ought to be able to swipe copyrighted images and stick them in Flash cartoons.

The argument I presented to Hon. Rick Santorum (and which you are welcome consider, for what little good it does) is as follows:

"When I was a teen, back in 80's, and I came home from school, I needed something to get my mind off my troubles. You couldn’t be calling friends like I had, seeing as how they had as much homework as I did—plus, they had their own family obligations. So I’d put down my books, pull up a chair and turn on the old television. Now, some of the stuff I saw on that television was pure crap. Strippers on Donahue shaking their butts. For my time, I preferred cartoons. Old school cartoons—Tom & Jerry from the 40's, Woody Woodpecker and Porky Pig. That, and Japanese Animation was alright. Robotech. Maybe even Voltron, although that was a little too cheeseball.

"Well, there was some crappy animation back then, too. He Man and The Masters of the Universe. They weren’t masters of anything except marketing, and they didn’t even do THAT well. Smurfs. Care Bears. My Pretty Pony. If my father had any guns in the house, I would have shot the TV dead for My Pretty Pony.

"OK.

"We had a lot of crappy animation back in the 80's.

"And what were you going to say about it?

"Nothing. You couldn’t write a letter to a studio because you were just a kid—nobody would listen to you. That left the TV all one-sided: they presented their material, you watched. Period. No discussion.

"Along comes the internet.

"Nowadays, if you’re a kid, and you feel the bigwig production houses are pumping nothing but garbage, you can do something active about it. You can parody their nonsense. You can make your own Flash cartoons which are a 100 times funnier than Pokeman or some other fluff to pop out of a south Pacific animation factory. You can stand up to the big boys and let them know what you really think of Barney."

That's me quoting from my own letter. I sort-of knew it wouldn't work when I sent it to his office. Instead, I should have sent it to my hometown newspaper's Op/Ed column (the Baltimore Sun has a fairly large readership---way over 100,000). Well, I didn't send it to the Sun, and I think Santorum's secretary gave it all of 2 minutes of her time.

Still, it's very difficult to argue the case for humor & parody. But maybe it's socially needful to argue for it - somehow. It seems the people lack the most humor are the ones capable of the greatest level of cynicism - they're the ones who are bankrolling laboratories that produce military grade anthrax (remember that guy in "Dr. Strangelove" -that guy who was always talking about "precious bodily fluids" - he's the sort of guy I have in mind).

I say these things, knowing well and good a lot of people on this site get off on the concept of "anarchy", almost as though social chaos is some sort of performance art project. There's a humorless in that, too - a shortsightedness that does not necessarily answer existing problems. If you engineer a Reign of Terror, expect to go to the guillotine, yourself. I just pity the people you take with you.

Well, the whole point rests on this. I'm no sheep. I don't like the clocks because I, don't like them, just me, because of my own opinion. I don't follow what others say, every thing I've seen by a clock was half assed, because they knew there buddies would back it up anywaysy.

People don't hate clocks out of mob mentality, it's becuase the clocks works are worthless, and they get sick of people that reuse the same awful gags over and over, when they didn't even like it in the first place. People shoot them down because they can't stand assholes who sit and flood the site with stuff because they think it's fun.

If you have no originality, or ability to think of anything funny, and you can copy and paste things onto flash 5, go ahead and join the clocks.

Just because a 5 year old can make a flash with the easy to use maker, doesn't mean he has to send it tot he portal?

I remember the days when people actually did good work. Only a few people had the guts or the ability to make flash, and they made good works. Now everybody draws a couple of sticks lighting themselves on fire, or they choose some inatimate object and put a clock in it, and call it "good". Bullshit.

At 8/15/02 08:38 PM, TomFulp wrote: Happy Clock Day everybody! If you look through the Portal today, you'll notice even more Clock movies than usual!

Here is just a sample of the crazyness: Jason Takes Newgrounds! Be sure to watch it all!

Which of today's Clock films is your favorite?

Tom, I'm really honoured if you liked my movie =). And I also am glad other people liked it, and if you didn't than sorry - I'll try to do better next time
;-).

OlayClock

At 8/17/02 05:11 AM, Stitch wrote: In response to your thing about the other NG wannabe sites I have a few things to say. One is that the other sites have no right to do tell people not to use your logo and that they are just a bunch of whiney pussies, but, I've also been waiting for a Pseudo-Newgrounds site to evolve that doesn't have MTV syndrom. What is MTV syndrom, you ask? Well, it's the complete commercialization and exploitation of a GOOD FUCKING IDEA. Newgrounds was fucking awesome until Tom decided to go insane with it. Tom, you can GET MONEY ON YOUR SITE WITHOUT 6000 POP UPS! The real Newgrounds fans are PISSED. We're dissapointed. You've become too involved with the advertisements. Do you remember what MTV did? They had a good network with good content and didn't have very much blatant advertisement, but then they thought "Wow, we can make alot of money off this." and sold out. The went mainstream, but in a bad way. Newgrounds has turned into a virtual MTV, and it's really fucking sad for people like me who loved it. Complete utter shit is being submitted to the portal everyday and the ratio is growing. I miss the oldies, Tom. I miss the old days of Newgrounds when we didn't have to hear all your shit about "Go to this site and I'll have more money to run Newgroudns!"... I'd really like to see Newgrounds decommercialized. I'm sick of jackass 10 year olds and stay at home mothers coming to this site all the time and bitching about the risque content. I'm sick of pure shit being submitted to the portal. I'm sick of all the fucking pop-ups. Tom, I'm all about the success of Newgrounds, but not in the way that you are getting it. Howard Stern heard about Newgrounds from a fucking prepubesant jerkoff who only came to see Britney take off her clothes. Well, fuck, if your use of porn to get visitors isn't selling out then I don't know what is. The other sites are wrong for taking your idea, but if there comes a site which is more about the content of their site than about advertising and popularity, then FUCK, I'm submitting there. No, I've never been to those sites, except DrugFilms, but you advertised that one yourself. If you care about your real fans then you will decommercialize it. You can fight it all you want, but you know that Newgrounds is not what it used to be. In some ways it is better, but in most it's worse. I love Newgrounds, and what the ORIGINAL spirit of Newgrounds is, but I'm not going to be visiting much until something is changed. Or atleast until Pico 2 is out (I've been waiting forever). I'm sorry, Tom, but the fact is Newgrounds is not what it used to be, and that's sad to me. I'm all about change, but not like this.

I compleatly agree! i have been going to newgrounds since club a seal and cyber cat and its been a steady decline in submissions in someways...

I understand the need for tom to make some money, but its gone too far, newgrounds has gone through a sad sad transformation...

UN-COMMERCIALISE NG!

At 8/16/02 07:49 PM, fishyX45 wrote: i hate clock movies

hahaha
that sounds like an educated opinion coming from a n00b
FEWEL

has newgrounds been bought out by the clock crew, i dont believe this junk...

At 8/17/02 06:19 AM, GaryTheCloud wrote: Fuck the Clock Crew, their sad fucking wankers who cant spell properly... on purpose!

Their just pizza-faced 12 year olds pretending to be 21 year olf 1337 h4x0rz!!!11

Wankers.

I agree with all Clock haters. That fag Strawberry Clock started it, and now NG is overpopulated with Clock freaks. I too believe that this "Clock Day" is absolute bullshit. We must team up with the man called Calypso and the clown called Sweet Tooth and free NG from all Clock-kind.

KILL THE CLOCK CREW!!!! They overpopulate

I'm not getting why all this clock hate keeps persisting around here...if you don't like clock movies just don't watch them, why is that so hard? The thing I keep hearing people bitch about over and over is "Clocks keep protecting their own movies, they make shitty flash and then they vote 5 a million times so that it can't be blamed!" Then why not just avoid clock movies? I'm not a fan of the Clock Crew's work either (official, or un-official clocks) I think a lot of them put out crap movies and some people wrongly glorify it as some kind of misunderstood art, that's just my opinion though. So in light of that I normally avoid clock movies, unless I hear that something is pretty good from more than about 5 people. So as I say, let's just stop the hostilities and maybe the clocks movies will improve (because I think some of them purposely make bad flash just to piss folks off cause they know that most of us are gonna fall for it) so that's my opinion, that's my suggestion, let the hatred begin....

At 8/17/02 10:28 PM, ECWMark wrote: I'm not getting why all this clock hate keeps persisting around here...if you don't like clock movies just don't watch them, why is that so hard? The thing I keep hearing people bitch about over and over is "Clocks keep protecting their own movies, they make shitty flash and then they vote 5 a million times so that it can't be blamed!" Then why not just avoid clock movies? I'm not a fan of the Clock Crew's work either (official, or un-official clocks) I think a lot of them put out crap movies and some people wrongly glorify it as some kind of misunderstood art, that's just my opinion though. So in light of that I normally avoid clock movies, unless I hear that something is pretty good from more than about 5 people. So as I say, let's just stop the hostilities and maybe the clocks movies will improve (because I think some of them purposely make bad flash just to piss folks off cause they know that most of us are gonna fall for it) so that's my opinion, that's my suggestion, let the hatred begin....

alright, you completely missed the point. Don't you see that the clock crew crap is COMPLETELY out of hand? There's a clock holiday on Newgrounds. Tom, your site has turned into a bitchy fucking PIECE OF SHIT loaded with moron clock jackasses prancing about pretending as if they own Newgrounds. Well, Tom, I hate to say it but FUCK YOU for letting this crap overload and FUCK YOU for thriving on it. If we COULD avoid the clock movies we would. The clock crew is a virus that thrives on the oppinions of FUCKING DUMB SHIT MORONS. God damn you, Tom, you fucking sell out. I miss the old Newgrounds, and I miss the old Tom. The clock crew is like pop music, you know it sucks and you know most people with no taste in anything enjoy it but it gets the attention it does not deserve. There needs to be a revolt against the clock crew, we need to petition. I enjoy the clock crew as a FEW guys making fun of Newgrounds and Flash, but I do not like this cult following as if the only way to be cool on NG is to be a clock. They're in the 80's punk thing, where as, if you express that you are not of the punk "clock" movement then you are inferior. Well, I like punk, and I'm no fucking punk. I hate clocks, and I am not with the clocks. Newgrounds has turned into complete SHIT. A year ago today Newgrounds was tolerably good. It had decent submitions and occasionally something really good would pop up, atleast once every two days. Now the content is horrible. Every 12 year old with a labeto is on Newgrounds criticizing PIECES OF ART with rash moronic intellects. I'm not saying that if you're 12 then you have no taste, I'm simply saying that most of the people who are browsing Newgrounds now adays are TASTELESS FUCKING MORONS. The clock crew goes by the idea that if you act like elitests then you will be admired. Well, you're only being admired by the FUCKING IDIOTS (no offense, because they are amusing to an extent). The clock crew elitest thing is sad. It's sad that it has come to this, and it is sad that Tom is fucking tolerating it, let alone ENCOURAGING IT. Tom, get a grip. You've lost the spirit of Newgrounds. You gave it to us, and then you lost it. Well, Tom, we still have it and I suggest we re-enforce it. It's time to get the fucking spirit back. Fuck the clock crew, and fuck the new Newgrounds...

Piss piss, moan moan, clock crew floods portal, clock crew sux, clock crew is gay, clock crew is the devil, How can Tom condone this shit... I'll tell ya how, it's HIS site, he likes the clocks because he's not a narrow minded jackass. Not everything is black and white, the clocks put out their fair share of crap but so does any other flash artist but would you vote 0 on something that is really cool just because you don't like that users name or their past movies? I hope not. Give us a chance!

WatermellonClock steps off his soapbox.

(now i wait for the "intelligent" reply)

HAPPY LATE CLOCK DAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Clock films? I think they are fucked up. Stop making the shit, its retarded. FUCK. Newgrounds, I keep getting popups while im writing this..SHIT HEADS. FUCK U ALL!

Godammit Tom first you build a page showing what the clocks are really are,now you make it so you have to be nice to hem and you'll get banned from NG if you dont.....WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!
CLOCK DAY?!!?!
Next you'll be saying the clocks re the kings of the portal.

That's one hella long animation - how did the clock thing get started - what is it's origin?

At 8/15/02 08:38 PM, TomFulp wrote: Happy Clock Day everybody! If you look through the Portal today, you'll notice even more Clock movies than usual!

Here is just a sample of the crazyness: Jason Takes Newgrounds! Be sure to watch it all!

Which of today's Clock films is your favorite?

Damn clocks.. Its part of my mission to kill them all one by one.

At 8/15/02 08:59 PM, Ize wrote: one day i'll run amok and shoot down a dozen people and it's the fault of retards that make clock movies... one more of these things and i'll stab someone... please, i mean it...stop producing such crap and don't waste newgrounds bandwidth

This guy above is a fucking tard. wasting newgrounds bandwidth? Isn't there a msg from tom fulp the owner saying happy clock day everyone? besides u just dun like clocks becuz there's probably no porn...clocks 4 ever!

War within NG...besides what's the matter with u clock haters? Why is the clock crew ruining your internet 'experience'? They're normal people like u expressing themselves through flash. I've come across pisspoor flashes but i dun post a blammin review...I personally love the clocks but people really need to get their head on straight and say to themselves...THey're just normal people making flash...good work clock crew

wow... Ive never seen Newgrounders so divided on a issue before... we should call a vote somehow... 1)Disband the Crew 2)Keep NG as it is

the clock's all rule there new movies are awsome I'm glad some people like the clocks I can't stand how most of you haters don't like them so lay off