Idea for making A-Bots Weekly fair

[JonH2O]

I suggested this idea in Ideas for Newgrounds Evolution with no response. I wanted to get some input on my idea. Here is what I suggested:

The problem of A-bots weekly favorites has been brought up inside of the Audio forums about a billion times. I would like to help formulate a fair weighted down voting system (that will only affect the score for A-BOT in deciding the weeks favorites).

With me so far? All right, please listen carefully, and please consider this. This is in no way perfected, only a direction:

Since A-Bot decides the favorites on a specific day, the total score of the audio submission will be increased for how many days go by until the next weekly favorites are chosen.
Short: The more days that go by, the higher the score will be weighed down (for A-Bot). This will add to the equation that a score kept at an average of 4.50 for a week is better than a score of around 4.50 that was just submitted, because more people have had a change to see it and listen to it. Is that rational?

Also, add to the equation how many people have voted on the song. For example, adding this along with the idea above in the equation would result (for example) a score of 4.17 voted by, say, 30 people higher than a score of 4.75 by 3. Now, this is in no way correct but this si what I would hope for the equation to accomplish somehow.

And possibly, only impliment this equation (allow for the weekly favorites) for submissions submitted within 8 days, instead of 7. Why? Because submissions that are submitted on a tuesday don't have a decent chance of getting a high enough score (with the equation in mind) to give it a fair chance. You may think that giving it 8 days to be viewed and rated would cause an ADVANTAGE, but the weight of the scores is what would really determine it, so the days would only have a slight change in score.

Another idea for this is to maybe exclude the 0's from having any affect on the audio being on the favorites. This would probably reduce the massive downrating of songs. And, if a song really does deserve a rating of 0, it will only effect the ACTUAL rating of the song ass seen on the charts and artist page. But, this is not exactly the best idea, it does have flaws flaws, but it does have elaborative value, I wnt to spawn some brain storming for you guys. I really want to see the audio portal grow.

Bottom Line: I think Any improvement on the A-Bots Weekly Favorites is an Improvement. The way that audio gets on A-Bot is too easy to manipulate.

Would this make things more fair? if the equation was weighted down correctly.

I wanted to write down the exact equation that you could implement....But I couldn't get started. Hopefully someone, good at math, could do this fairly easy, I wouldn't imagine this would take too much effort to implement on NG, maybe just a little bit of tweeking with A-bot, but I have no idea. I believe this to be in high demand, and it would ABOLISH the users who submit their audio and vote 5 on their own right before A-Bot selects the highest score...If done correctly.

Hopefully these few ideas for the equation will guide eveyone in the right direction for the voting system. I believe this would be a massive upgrade to the audio portal. I would love to hear input from you mods out there, if allowed.

What do you guys think?

[AdmiralConquistador]

By God man, that is a really fucking ingenious idea. An equation that chooses who gets to be on the AP top5. Let's get a mathematician in here to figure something out that would make it nice and fair to submit things. No longer be afraid to submit your songs on wednesday, you now have a chance! And forget about the zero voters single handedly ruining your chance of making it, because now the voice of the people shall truly be heard! An era for the people, by the people, in the land of Audio Portal!

Great idea man :)

Check out my idea for voting... I posted it probably less than an hour before you posted this idea, and our ideas would go great together

[AdmiralConquistador]

Woops, forgot that I didn't create a topic with it, but it will get plenty of views under this thread, and it's for helping the AP, so I figure you won't mind me posting my idea here.

I think you should have to listen to at least 60 or 75% of the song before you can judge it, or you have to complete downloading the song to judge it. I mean, if you are going to honestly judge a song, this rule wouldn't bother you, but if you are a 0 voter, this is going to be a huge motherfucking thorn in your ass...

[JonH2O]

I posted this topic in the audio forum instead of general because I figured it would attract the people who are engaged to making the audio portal better. I figured this type of post wouldn't get too much feedback in general. I would have thought that at least one of the mods would have commented something by now about what I posted.

My whole reason for starting this thread is jsut to throw out some ideas.

I have the idea to add "some kind" of mathematical equation. I'm not to great with math, but possibly one of you are. Or maybe, you have a whole other idea. *shrugs*

Share them. Let's try and build off of others ideas. We need to put our minds together. Something will work out.

Anyone great at formulating equations?

[SpamWarrior]

I know a quality mathematician, but hes no programmer.... I'll throw this post at him when hes next online.

[PiePie]

At 7/9/05 12:45 AM, JonH2O wrote: I suggested this idea in Ideas for Newgrounds Evolution with no response. I wanted to get some input on my idea. Here is what I suggested:

it's ok even mine had no responses but according to Denvish liljim read it. So yeah your idea is good I just think it will take lots of time before it get's put into place....

[RyeGuyHead]

That is such a freaking complex idea....but i think it might work. If no one takes notice to your idea, we could always start our own little rebel club in the audio forum where we could vote on our favorites of the week. That would make me happy, and who knows....maybe if gets attention, the club's top 5 could indirectly affect the ap's top 5.

You know what...never mind, that would never work. Your idea is better

[JonH2O]

At 7/9/05 12:04 PM, RyeGuyHead wrote: That is such a freaking complex idea....but i think it might work. If no one takes notice to your idea, we could always start our own little rebel club in the audio forum where we could vote on our favorites of the week. That would make me happy, and who knows....maybe if gets attention, the club's top 5 could indirectly affect the ap's top 5.

You know what...never mind, that would never work. Your idea is better

hah, I know what you're saying. We could start our own little group of people who vote fairly on the most recent submissions. Become stronger than all of the people who vote badly for no reason. MWAHAHA. That would take alot of dedication and more than a few people to be something special.