At 8/18/05 09:08 PM, jonthomson wrote:
It's just a case of finding the time to implement such a system when there's things with higher priorities, even though the time spent doing so would likely be more than compensated by that saved by letting review mods doing more of the work.
I don't want to ruffle any feathers here, but I suppose I inevitably will.
Every now and then, there's a happy conglomeration of these things - the authors will benefit, the users who come to the site (be they registered, or more often, not) will benefit and the administrators/moderators will benefit.
An absolutely PERFECT example of this is the automated collections system. People are here primarily (I'm going to come back to the audio portal before anyone gets on my back (as they regularly do) about that one) to view flash animations, since the site evolved around flash. The majority of people who are here want to see flash that they like - and they then want to go and see more of the same thing. The people who submit flash to the site want to get publicity and people seeing more of their works.
Before the automated collections system, this was a long and drawn out process (of finding the right collections/series/games/toons pages to put the stuff into and what not and then categorise it and edit all the files that need to be edited).
This is not the case any more - it's very easy for us guys (and will this responsibility will ultimately be shared amongst trusted moderators, who will be able to add/edit collections stuff (I don't want to concentrate on that too much at the moment, we'll come back to that at a later date)).
Now, it's a case of clicking and pointing and what not at all that stuff and it's catalogued. That's great for the users, because if they see some movie or game that they like, they get to click through to other movies/games of the same genre if the entry they are watching is categorised.
It's great for the authors as well, because those that are in the same collections/games/toons/series that the user has clicked backed to, there's a good chance that the user will then check out their stuff, giving the author more exposure. And it's great for those who are in control of that stuff, because they can control all of that far more effectively than they could before.
Going back to the audio portal - that thing is my baby and it regularly gets dropped on its head by the audio portal submitters.... What they forget is that that thing is in its infancy (baby references, anyone?), compared with the flash portal. It's also something that isn't visited as much (because the majority of people know Newgrounds for flash, rather than audio). And most people who aren't really into music in any big way don't go there, nor would they ever go there, unless they hear samples of some of the music in there before they get to the place.
However, this is not down to the fact that "the audio portal does not get enough publicity", blah blah blah. It's because there aren't many flash authors who USE the stuff in the audio portal. Whenever a really successful entry in the flash portal does well, and includes an audio entry from the audio portal, that audio author tends to do well.
I forget who it was who first used paragonx9's work from the audio portal, but I know that the flash submission made front page. Just look at the guy's list of accolades now. People don't come to the site to listen to audio, but they do go to that audio once they have heard what's been played in the submission in the flash portal that they have come to see.
And that's what I'll be looking to develop in the audio portal in the future (which will come as soon as I've finished up the PM system and a couple of other features) - I've already mentioned this several times in the past, but those who come to the audio forum to bitch and hate, generally are those are consumed with their own little rants that mean shit to anyone but themselves and are the culprits of whatever they're bitching and hating over in the audio portal.
Chances of anyone reading this start-to-finish. Not much. But there you go...