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US intervention 2005-06-21 15:53:00 Reply

Check out this link

Its a list of all the military interventions of the USA in the past centry.

As you can see there is an increase of interventions after the second world war and then again after the cold war.

Why is this do you think?

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-21 15:55:42 Reply

sorry mistyped link its

http://www.zmag.org/crisescurevts\interventions.htm

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-21 15:58:16 Reply

"UNITED STATES
2001
Jets, naval
Response to hijacking attacks."

Come on, now.

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-21 15:59:39 Reply

damn mistyped again lol

http://www.zmag.org/crisescurevts/interventions.htm

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-21 16:02:29 Reply

check out Chile, where a right wing military dictator was put in place by the USA after a left wing government was fairly elected into power

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-21 16:03:25 Reply

Typing's for suckas. Try copy 'n' paste next time.

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-21 16:07:05 Reply

At 6/21/05 03:58 PM, Maus wrote: "UNITED STATES
2001
Jets, naval
Response to hijacking attacks."

Come on, now.

What is the problem with that?

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-21 16:23:14 Reply

At 6/21/05 04:07 PM, TheloniousMONK wrote:
At 6/21/05 03:58 PM, Maus wrote: "UNITED STATES
2001
Jets, naval
Response to hijacking attacks."

Come on, now.
What is the problem with that?

I don't think it counts as intervention if it's your own forces on your own soil.

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-21 16:30:48 Reply

i copied the link out of a book which is why i mistyped

ISBN 1-804064-525-5

its a very good book and i recommend it to all

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-21 17:46:15 Reply

At 6/21/05 03:53 PM, AreoMancer wrote: Why is this do you think?

Cus Europe stopped doing it and with Communist Russia extending it's hand (during the Cold War) and genocides and terrorism now someone has to stand up for Western interests.

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-21 23:28:37 Reply

At 6/21/05 04:23 PM, capn_g wrote: I don't think it counts as intervention if it's your own forces on your own soil.

Sure it does... just like all the others.

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-21 23:34:16 Reply

At 6/21/05 04:02 PM, AreoMancer wrote: check out Chile, where a right wing military dictator was put in place by the USA after a left wing government was fairly elected into power

Hah. Just goes to show you how misleading this information can be.

We gave something like 10 million dollars. The coup was done by the army, which had nearly a billion dollar budget per year.

We didn't even come close putting him in place, what we did can barely be considered support, in fact I have my own theories that it was just the CIA funneling money.

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-22 01:28:55 Reply

At 6/21/05 05:46 PM, totalwar wrote:
Cus Europe stopped doing it and with Communist Russia extending it's hand (during the Cold War) and genocides and terrorism now someone has to stand up for Western interests.

My own theory is that after the other superpowers such as Germany, England and Russia faded away Ameica felt that it could do what it want.

Some of the interventions after the cold war wouldnt have happened if Russia had still been around to protect those countries

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-22 01:31:55 Reply

At 6/21/05 03:53 PM, AreoMancer wrote: Check out this link

Its a list of all the military interventions of the USA in the past centry.

As you can see there is an increase of interventions after the second world war and then again after the cold war.

Why is this do you think?

America likes to control other beings and countrys. The dictators feel the need for more power and that is why they do it. They abuse their powers and usualy go a spree once in a while.

Don't worry, 2008 comes soon, not unless the world is gone by then, but if the people of earth dies. It will be for the better.

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-22 01:35:55 Reply

At 6/22/05 01:31 AM, darknezz1 wrote:
Don't worry, 2008 comes soon, not unless the world is gone by then, but if the people of earth dies. It will be for the better.

thats probably right

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-22 01:46:40 Reply

The US interference is based one one thing

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ teh monies$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-22 01:54:24 Reply

At 6/22/05 01:46 AM, fastbow wrote: The US interference is based one one thing

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ teh monies$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Really? How was Cosavo (sp) about the money? Or Bosnia? Or Afghanistan? You maybe got us for Iraq on that count, but I put it more towrads a Bush family vandetta against one Saddam Hussein.

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-22 01:57:35 Reply

Defense contracts.
Defending the Clinton Rep.
Afghanistan = front for Iraqi invasion.....

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-22 14:15:07 Reply

At 6/21/05 11:34 PM, Jimsween wrote:
At 6/21/05 04:02 PM, AreoMancer wrote: check out Chile, where a right wing military dictator was put in place by the USA after a left wing government was fairly elected into power
We didn't even come close putting him in place, what we did can barely be considered support, in fact I have my own theories that it was just the CIA funneling money.

I'd say you did come kinda close. Many of the conditions that affected negatively Allende's goverment were heavily influenced by the US, even when Allende got most of the crap on his own.

But you're still more right than the other guy. Pinochet was NOT put in place by the USA. He was merely backed-up by them, if not in the physical moment of the coup itself, but rather politically speaking.

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-22 16:51:28 Reply

At 6/22/05 01:57 AM, fastbow wrote: Defense contracts.

No new contracts were given out. We used what we had nice try.

Defending the Clinton Rep.

It may have been political, but considering how much Bush is letting slide without catching flak I doubt it (in that Clinton would have expected the same reactions as Bush does now).

Afghanistan = front for Iraqi invasion.....

What the hell inspired you to post this bullshit? Afghanistan was retliation for 9/11. Nothing more nothing less.

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Response to US intervention 2005-06-22 23:34:32 Reply

At 6/22/05 02:15 PM, Empanado wrote: I'd say you did come kinda close. Many of the conditions that affected negatively Allende's goverment were heavily influenced by the US, even when Allende got most of the crap on his own.

But that depends entirely what you mean by that. I mean, sure, if you call no longer giving aid influence, then of course we influenced. But his cosying up to the Soviets and Cubans would obviously have pissed the US off. You can't except support from someone if you just took away thier only reason to support you.

But you're still more right than the other guy. Pinochet was NOT put in place by the USA. He was merely backed-up by them, if not in the physical moment of the coup itself, but rather politically speaking.

I'm curious, did we show any support for Pinochet in particular? Or rather just an opposition to Allende?