Fatties: Enemies of Freedom

[P-Chan]

A New York Lawyer is suing the 4 major fast food companies. He's saying that their fat-ass foods are responsible for his client's health problems.

Please read.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,58652,00.html/

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The lead plaintiff, 56-year-old maintenance supervisor Caesar Barber, ate at fast-food restaurants four or five times a week and blames his fatty diet for his obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure and cholesterol and the two heart attacks he has suffered.

"I trace it all back to the high fat, grease and salt, all back to McDonald’s, Wendy’s, Burger King – there was no fast food I didn't eat, and I ate it more often than not because I was single, it was quick and I’m not a very good cook," Barber said in an interview with Foxnews.com.

"It was a necessity, and I think it was killing me, my doctor said it was killing me, and I don't want to die."
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Samuel Hirsch filed his lawsuit Wednesday at a New York state court in the Bronx, alleging that McDonald’s, Burger King, Wendy’s and KFC Corporation are irresponsible and deceptive in the posting of their nutritional information, that they need to offer healthier options on their menus, and that they create a de facto addiction in their consumers, particularly the poor and children.
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Man oh man... how could anyone eat themselves into oblivion, and then blame it all on the restaurants?

Sad.

[dagger-happy]

Fat people ain't got no reason to live.

If he was mentally addicted to fast food then that's his own fault for being a stupid, weak-willed bloater. I'm sorry, but I CAN'T have any sympathy for these people! If he is killing himself from over-eating then that's a problem that stems from within himself; it's certainly not a culpability the fast food chains should bear. I think he should sue himself for being such a twat.

[Pecos]

On one hand, obviously this is stupid. On the other, can you really blame him for trying, after some old bag got $3 million for spilling coffee on herself.

[NewbieSick]

Fatties make the ultimate fighters! Sumo wrstle will takre ovea dah earfth~ !

[TheEvilOne]

Given the stupidity of people in general, the precedent set by the tobacco lawsuit, and the fact that people like to sue for anything these days, I knew this would happen eventually. People always want to blame the stuff they ate, drank, or smoked for their health problems when THEY are the ones who chose to eat/drink/smoke it. It's getting ridiculous.

[<deleted>]

At 7/26/02 11:06 PM, P-Chan wrote: A New York Lawyer is suing the 4 major fast food companies. He's saying that their fat-ass foods are responsible for his client's health problems.

Please read.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,58652,00.html/

If you eat too much and dont exercise, You get fat. If you get too fat, You die. Period
This is on par with people suing the tobacco companies.
As if Joe Camel shoved the ciggarettes in their mouth and forced them to smoke. McDonalds (or whoever) isnt FORCING you to eat there, Just like Phillip Morris isnt FORCING you to smoke. It's your choices, And if you chose to fuck yourself, So be it. It's the same way with drugs. If you want to fuck yourself up, then you should be able to.

[Yostimagu]

At 7/26/02 11:06 PM, P-Chan wrote: A New York Lawyer is suing the 4 major fast food companies. He's saying that their fat-ass foods are responsible for his client's health problems.

Please read.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,58652,00.html/



Quotes from article
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The lead plaintiff, 56-year-old maintenance supervisor Caesar Barber, ate at fast-food restaurants four or five times a week and blames his fatty diet for his obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure and cholesterol and the two heart attacks he has suffered.

"I trace it all back to the high fat, grease and salt, all back to McDonald’s, Wendy’s, Burger King – there was no fast food I didn't eat, and I ate it more often than not because I was single, it was quick and I’m not a very good cook," Barber said in an interview with Foxnews.com.

"It was a necessity, and I think it was killing me, my doctor said it was killing me, and I don't want to die."
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Samuel Hirsch filed his lawsuit Wednesday at a New York state court in the Bronx, alleging that McDonald’s, Burger King, Wendy’s and KFC Corporation are irresponsible and deceptive in the posting of their nutritional information, that they need to offer healthier options on their menus, and that they create a de facto addiction in their consumers, particularly the poor and children.
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Man oh man... how could anyone eat themselves into oblivion, and then blame it all on the restaurants?

Sad.

This is a dumb assed case. If this guy wins, I hold no hope for the future. All these restaurants have nutrition information on at least one wall.
While I belive that obese people are people to, I find they like to throw thier weight around *no pun intended*. On several major Airlines, If you are so fat that you spill over into the other seat, you have to pay for 2 seats. Ths is to ensure the comfort of all the passangers. The commitee for the obeese says this is mean spirted, but enveloping your neighbor in blubber is not!.

What a sad nation.

[P-Chan]

At 8/1/02 12:02 AM, Yostimagu wrote:
This is a dumb assed case. If this guy wins, I hold no hope for the future. All these restaurants have nutrition information on at least one wall.
While I belive that obese people are people to, I find they like to throw thier weight around *no pun intended*. On several major Airlines, If you are so fat that you spill over into the other seat, you have to pay for 2 seats. Ths is to ensure the comfort of all the passangers. The commitee for the obeese says this is mean spirted,

but enveloping your neighbor in blubber is not!.

Would this be considered second-hand-lard?

What a sad nation.

It gets worse.

The guy thought that the label "100% pure beef" meant that the burgers were good for you.

The guy also said that he only *recently* knew about how bad fast food was after talking to his doctor. Keep in mind how stupid that sounds. He has already had a few heart attacks as well as tons of medical problems. Apparently his doctor has never warned him about this before. And keeping with that logic, this man has probably never watched TV, went to school, had any friends, had any family, met any people, or watched a subway commercial. Because if had or did, most likely he would have realized that his blob lifestyle of eating tubs of fries was bad for him.

Should we be making social policy around people like this?!?!?

I mean if the guy can't be trusted to know lard food from good food, then how could be trusted to drive a car, raise children or vote?

[swill]

At 7/29/02 11:51 PM, FlattusMaximus wrote:

At 7/26/02 11:06 PM, P-Chan wrote:

This is on par with people suing the tobacco companies.

Point No.1
The thing is that the tobacco companies with-held information that they had of smokings damaging effects on health. Although it may seem stupid now that no-one thought smoking was bad. Its like if in 20 years time it was proven that bread multiplied the chances of infertility, and the bread companies knew this but didnt tell the public so as not to harm sales. That would piss you off slightly, no? Although that is ridiculous, its basically what the situation is.

Point No.2:
I find it interesting that all the liberals are razor sharp to defend ethnic minorities against bigotry (and rightly so) yet racists and liberals unite on the politics messageboard to have a good old bitch about fat people, because obviously they are the ill of society today, and we should definitely not acknowledge the actual problem of obesity.

Good evening.

[P-Chan]

At 8/16/02 04:10 PM, swill wrote:

At 7/29/02 11:51 PM, FlattusMaximus wrote:

At 7/26/02 11:06 PM, P-Chan wrote:

This is on par with people suing the tobacco companies.

Point No.1
The thing is that the tobacco companies with-held information that they had of smokings damaging effects on health. Although it may seem stupid now that no-one thought smoking was bad. Its like if in 20 years time it was proven that bread multiplied the chances of infertility, and the bread companies knew this but didnt tell the public so as not to harm sales. That would piss you off slightly, no? Although that is ridiculous, its basically what the situation is.

I agree with your above statement.

However, in my opinion the case against tabacco and the case against fastfood are totally different.

Nicotine is a *highly addictive* drug and smoking most certainly causes lung cancer. You're correct when the tobacco companies were withholding information and escaping blame, because they were. They were lying through their teeth. Period.

However, fastfood is not a drug. It is a food. You can make this stuff in your own home and buy it at the grocery store. It is not physically addictive, but rather psychologically addictive. However, many things can be psychologically addictive including such things as video games, porn, and even model trains. It would be impossible to regulate everything out there that has the possibility to be psycologically addictive.

This guy is sueing the companies because he said that they caused his bad health, in that they were misleading in their advertisements. This guy honestly thought that the stuff being offered at McDonalds was GOOD FOR YOU. And when he was suffering from heart attacks, high blood pressure and diabeties, he had no idea it was because of his diet, until his doctor told him.

IMO, The fast food companies aren't hiding the fact that they are unhealthy. Fast food is advertised as being "good tasting" and "fun". Period. They don't say that you can live off the stuff or they don't say that you'll be healthy after eating it.

"It's senseless, baseless and ridiculous," National Restaurant Association spokeswoman Katharine Kim said. "There are choices in restaurants and people can make these choices, and there's a little personal responsibility as well."

I remember a long time ago, McDonalds had a McLean Delux, which was their diet low fat burger. That item was advertised as being healthy and goood for you. However, in less than a year, it was discontinued. You know why? Because no one bought it.

So yeah... nicotine and fast food... totally different.

[P-Chan]

Point No.2:
I find it interesting that all the liberals are razor sharp to defend ethnic minorities against bigotry (and rightly so) yet racists and liberals unite on the politics messageboard to have a good old bitch about fat people,

I myself wasn't bitching about fat people, but was bitching about the fat person who was sueing the companies. Again, totally different.

You wanna be fat? Be fat. You like to eat fastfood enough to damage your health? Be my guest. You wanna eat yourself into terminal health problems and then sue the restaurants because it is their fault? Uhhh... no.

because obviously they are the ill of society today, and we should definitely not acknowledge the actual problem of obesity.

I wasn't addressing the problem of obesity, but rather the problem of not taking personal responsibility for your actions.

Are they the ill of society today? I don't know.

Should we acknowledge the actual problem of obesity? Sure. That would be great! But in what way? Why don't you yourself start a new thread about that issue?

[SquidOmelet]

theres only one reason hes suing, and thats that he has a chance of making a LOT of money. he's not an idiot, im sure he knew that fast food places are harmful to your health, hes just saying he didnt. fucking duh.

and its no different from tabacco companies. they advertise it to make it seem completely unharmful, and target all age groups and sexes. of course its your choice to eat fast food, but its your choice to smoke cigarettes too, and i think that advertising has a lot to do with peoples decisions.

[ThunderBolt2001]

At 8/1/02 12:02 AM, Yostimagu wrote:
This is a dumb assed case. If this guy wins, I hold no hope for the future. All these restaurants have nutrition information on at least one wall.
While I belive that obese people are people to, I find they like to throw thier weight around *no pun intended*. On several major Airlines, If you are so fat that you spill over into the other seat, you have to pay for 2 seats. Ths is to ensure the comfort of all the passangers. The commitee for the obeese says this is mean spirted, but enveloping your neighbor in blubber is not!.

What a sad nation.

Thisis a free country, and if u want to be fat and eat food that isn't good for u, u can do that...but BE PREPARED TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES..its not our fault that they're fat, its their own and we shouldn't be held responsibe for that.
As for the having to pay for 2 seats issue, i completely agree with it..i don't know if anyone else was stuck on a 3 hour flight next to a fat person, but its not fair to the normal wieghted person...the fat lady i was sitting next to was complaining that i wasn't giving her enough room and that i had to sit all the way to the right of my seat for her...she even called the flight attendent!
In conclusion if u r overwieght its ur own fault and u should suffer the consequences!

[Character-Zero]

The saddest part is is that this fat douchebag is probably going to win. If the result of this doesn't effect me when I want to eat fast food, then I don't give a shit, cuz I'm not fat. But every time I see this idiot on TV, I wanna bludgeon him with a lead pipe. People like him are ruining this country for everyone, and its people like him that will make this world horribly over-populated by not dying like they should. I know it's a strong statement, but it's true. If he's too stupid to realize that this food is unhealthy, then he deserves heart-attacks and everything else he got. And its his fault, not the fast-food places' fault. This is just another of the many reasons I hate living in this country.

[Avary]

While I belive that obese people are people to, I find they like to throw thier weight around *no pun intended*. On several major Airlines, If you are so fat that you spill over into the other seat, you have to pay for 2 seats. Ths is to ensure the comfort of all the passangers. The commitee for the obeese says this is mean spirted, but enveloping your neighbor in blubber is not!.

Aircrafts have a maximum take-off weight. If they are to be able to lift off the ground and fly they must not go over that MTOW. Planes are designed to carry a certain amount of passengers in relation to this physical limitation. Very fat people, by weighing more than the average person mess up with the wieght caluculations. If they have the weight of two normal passengers, it removes one passenger from the plane because the weight limitation must be respected.

It makes sense, both for passengers comfort and flying the airplane.

And that Cesar Barber guy is a lamer.

[Stormwarden]

When will people learn to take responsibility for their own actions? Seriously?

Don't be surprised to see this laughed out of court. At least it would be where I come from.

Check out this online comic for a nice take on it:

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