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Response to Debate? 2005-06-21 01:54:53 Reply

At 6/21/05 01:01 AM, Sinnernaut wrote:
At 6/21/05 12:18 AM, Random_Assassin wrote: PShhh any langauge can make anything.
Then make me a completely 3D game engine in Haskell. Oh wait, that's pretty fucking impossible if you ask me.

Impossible? No. Impractical? Maybe. Improbable? Yes.

I wouldn't recommend asking close-minded individuals such as Sinnernaut here, because clearly 'pretty fucking impossible' isn't a particularly fair or accurate description of the possibility of such a project.

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Response to Debate? 2005-06-27 17:11:23 Reply

At 6/21/05 01:01 AM, Sinnernaut wrote: plus it is IN FACT CROSS PLATFORM, and based on a better language (PASCAL).

Pascal is for n00bs.

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Response to Debate? 2005-06-27 17:31:50 Reply

At 6/27/05 05:11 PM, ManateeGod wrote: Pascal is for n00bs.

So is BASIC, but Pascal is obviously a lot better language overall. I never said Pascal was great and only hardcore motherfucking programmers use it, I said it was based on an overall more powerful language than what VB is based on.


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Response to Debate? 2005-06-27 17:33:46 Reply

At 6/27/05 05:31 PM, Sinnernaut wrote: it was based on an overall more powerful language

Oh, and for clarity "it," doesn't mean pascal.

I ment to put "Delphi" there in parenthesis but I forgot.


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Response to Debate? 2005-06-27 18:03:47 Reply

Best language? I don't really have a favourite one. Let's see
Delphi:
Pros:
-Both high-level and low-level programming is possible
-Intuitive GUI maker. Property inspector!!!
-Component making capabilities. This is probably the best feature
Cons:
-Only Borland can make a delphi compiler
-Not a large enough userbase on the net. Although delphi.about.com is great

C
Pros:
-It's the original!
-Very old thus very popular language. It's really powerful
Cons:
-A bit hard to start with

PHP
Pros:
-Enormous userbase on the web
-Very easy to start with. Has about 1000 built-in functions that really make your life easier
-Has gotten much more efficient in the past years
Cons:
-Still only a scripting language
-Not raw-enough control (bleh)

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Response to Debate? 2005-06-27 18:29:13 Reply

1.) StarCraft was written in MS Visual C/C++. To date, I don't think there are any major commercial games written in Visual Basic (although with VB.NET it might happen). There is one that is written in Delphi (Age of Wonders).
2.) Saying "Pascal is for n00bs." is a great way of proving that you don't know what you're talking about.
3.) Comparing PHP with C or Pascal probably isn't the best comparison you can make since C and Pascal were designed for an entirely different purpose than PHP. I doubt that PHP will ever become a programming language used extensively outside of the dynamic website context. It's a powerful language, but considering the fact that it's dynamically typed and that it has a lot of features that depend on the code being interpreted, I don't see how it could be compiled into efficient binary of byte-code. If you take out the dynamic typing and the interpreter-specific features you basically get Java or C++...

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Response to Debate? 2005-06-27 18:36:33 Reply

At 6/27/05 05:11 PM, ManateeGod wrote: Pascal is for n00bs.

Yeah because BASIC is just so much better.


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