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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-04 05:30:06

At 2/4/07 05:27 AM, Darkside7000 wrote:
At 2/4/07 05:14 AM, SBB wrote: why should Flash reviews get more than audio reviews? that's totally fucking nonsense.
Because Audio reviews are usually alot lazier then flash reviews. Althought the majority of the times it's just "omg that was kewl" anyway.

That problem could easiely be fixed if you added a timer on each review like it is done with flash reviews. So you can only right 1 review per 5 minutes.


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-04 10:35:20

At 2/4/07 05:27 AM, Darkside7000 wrote:
At 2/4/07 05:14 AM, SBB wrote: why should Flash reviews get more than audio reviews? that's totally fucking nonsense.
Because Audio reviews are usually alot lazier then flash reviews. Althought the majority of the times it's just "omg that was kewl" anyway.

Not true, there are so many in-depth and really long audio reviews, and the "omg that was kewl" reviews are just as common in Flash reviews. There may be a bit more, but that is probably because there are so many people who have no clue what they're talking about?
Audio reviews aren't lazier, but many people who write them are... A lot of people take their time to make long in-deptht audio reviews, too.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-04 14:31:53

At 2/3/07 07:34 AM, Jogilius wrote: I think the "if you're going to rate this movie with a low rating, please be constructive"-instruction should be changed into something that encourages constructive comments no matter what the rating will be, because now it seems that many who would like to give low scores don't do that, because they feel pressured to give the constructive criticism. This in turn results in most of the ratings being 10 10 10 10 10 10 - and that quite frankly makes the whole rating system seem idiotic.

Constructive criticism is the entire point of reviewing. Someone who doesn't have something helpful to say should just vote and not put up a review at all.

I noticed a glitch on the site. It's in the system where you can rate whether a review is helpful or abusive. If you click on the "Yes" "No" or "Abusive" links below a review, you're directed to the reviews listed in chronological order, even if you were viewing them listed by rating. This is annoying because it makes it much harder to mark several abusive reviews at once, because abusive reviews tend to have low scores and can be more easily found by viewing reviews listed by score.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-05 23:12:49

At 2/4/07 02:31 PM, Cosmetor wrote:
At 2/3/07 07:34 AM, Jogilius wrote:

If you click on the "Yes" "No" or "Abusive" links below a review, you're directed to the reviews listed in chronological order, even if you were viewing them listed by rating.

How about being able to flag more than one review at a time?

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-06 03:16:48

At 2/4/07 02:31 PM, Cosmetor wrote: I noticed a glitch on the site. It's in the system where you can rate whether a review is helpful or abusive. If you click on the "Yes" "No" or "Abusive" links below a review, you're directed to the reviews listed in chronological order, even if you were viewing them listed by rating. This is annoying because it makes it much harder to mark several abusive reviews at once, because abusive reviews tend to have low scores and can be more easily found by viewing reviews listed by score.

I got an idea; how about not redirecting to a new page at all? It is better that way because you can flag at many as you want at a time.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-07 17:51:05

I think that what we should do with this review problem is maybe put in a checkbox system. Maybe then at the top and bottom of the page it will have a button to put all of the checks that you put on the page into action. So you could actually just go down and check every review. Put a check mark for the ones that you wish to mark and then at the bottom have a way to submit your verdicts.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-08 01:26:15

I suggest that the current numbers for flash deletion be changed from this:

100 votes - 1.0
150 votes - 1.25
200 votes - 1.60

to this:

100 votes - 1.15
150 votes - 1.40
200 votes - 1.75

In order to reduce the number of junk flashes in the portal and improve the quality of newgrounds.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-08 15:06:47

However LoV what that will do is discourage up and coming flash makers. Right now I am in the works of making a flash and I expect it will probably come in below 2. If my flash doesn't make it then how will I get any criticism on how to make it better. This is a site for experienced flashes and people trying to get better. The reason for this site is so your flash doesnt have to be excellent to get posted. I like the numbers as they are because they keep the site easy enough to get a flash onto and then learn more from the experience around you and the helpful reviewers that might not be able to see it while it is in the process of being blammed.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-08 15:16:27

I say we make it so you get 50 points per flash and 20 per audio. However blammed or ratings under 2.0 should get you docked 100 points.

When you reach zero and go under your account is deleted.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-08 22:46:29

Get rid of the Turd of the Week award. It used to be an award to showcase the worst flash entry of the week that still ended up passing. They would normally be so bad they were funny. Nowadays though, the award usually goes to a group of idiots who were trying to win the award by manipulating the system. It's usually just a pre-loader and a one-frame animation with a title designed to attract negative attention. After it gets off the portal mainpage, the artist and his group of friends vote it down all week to ensure their objective. Having the Turd of the Week award showcases these idiots' handiwork. It also encourages people to spam the portal with garbage with no intention other than to amuse their immature selves and piss off other people. The award no longer serves a positive purpose for the portal. Get rid of it.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-08 22:51:52

To further illustrate my point, have a look at the past 4 months worth of Turds. It's the same groups of retards almost every week. If it's not members of the Kitty Krew it's members of the Star Syndicate.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-09 04:37:47

At 2/8/07 03:16 PM, Chris-V2 wrote: I say we make it so you get 50 points per flash and 20 per audio. However blammed or ratings under 2.0 should get you docked 100 points.

When you reach zero and go under your account is deleted.

Wow. You know how many exp points the Kitty Krew could get a day? They can submit 2 a day, plus co-author 9 others. So they could get around 1,000xp a day if just 10 of them decide to submit 2 flash each. All will pass, the system will be screwed.

Being docked pts is ridiculous. Not only will it discourage up and coming artists, but deleting an account just because their flash quality isn't up to par with others is stupid.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-09 17:19:58

At 2/8/07 10:51 PM, Sakurazukamori wrote: To further illustrate my point, have a look at the past 4 months worth of Turds. It's the same groups of retards almost every week. If it's not members of the Kitty Krew it's members of the Star Syndicate.

I agree, I've heard them fighting over who gets it next.

My idea is a Downloads section, so you can download screensavers, wallpapers, and other stuff.

I also think auras should be decided for you.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-09 22:44:32

I agree with auras being decided for you. Like with me I have more saves than blams so I should have a light aura. For someone who has more blams it should be automatically dark. It would just be another cool feature of the site for people to try to change about themselves.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-09 22:49:28

At 2/9/07 10:44 PM, head2toewinner wrote: I agree with auras being decided for you. Like with me I have more saves than blams so I should have a light aura. For someone who has more blams it should be automatically dark. It would just be another cool feature of the site for people to try to change about themselves.

That seems like a good idea. The only issue that could rise from it is that some users may purposely blam everything just to get the "rarest" aura. I doubt that though!

Good idea!


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 00:18:01

At 2/9/07 10:49 PM, Sterockicy wrote:
At 2/9/07 10:44 PM, head2toewinner wrote: I agree with auras being decided for you. Like with me I have more saves than blams so I should have a light aura. For someone who has more blams it should be automatically dark. It would just be another cool feature of the site for people to try to change about themselves.
That seems like a good idea. The only issue that could rise from it is that some users may purposely blam everything just to get the "rarest" aura. I doubt that though!

Good idea!

Actually, I believe it was already like this at one point, and it DID raise issues just as you pointed out Sterockicy. Plus, once the new layout is released along with new user levels we will have additional aura's anyway, making this idea a bit pointless to impliment.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 01:07:03

At 2/9/07 10:44 PM, head2toewinner wrote: I agree with auras being decided for you. Like with me I have more saves than blams so I should have a light aura. For someone who has more blams it should be automatically dark. It would just be another cool feature of the site for people to try to change about themselves.

I originally thought this, but then realized, no, it doesn't work. There's more movies that deserve to be blammed submitted than there are those that deserve to be saved.
Some people might want a light aura and therefore start voting high on crap and releasing a ton of garbage out of judgement just to get one.
And someone who might want a dark aura will blam stuff, even that which deserves to come through.

People should vote on what they feel a submission deserves, and the aura should just be something they choose for themselves for the fun of it.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 06:12:27

At 2/10/07 06:06 AM, Mr-Money wrote: More graphics-based home page
The icons are currently too small and there's nothing which really makes you go "Yeah, I want to check this out" without looking really closely.

How do you know this already hasn't happened?

One-click viewing and voting
Like on YouTube, you should be able to click a submission's link and go staight to it without any beginning screen with "PLAY THIS GAME", for example.
The movie's page should also include a vote panel which just counts your damn vote without taking you to the "You voted .... on this submission, raising it to...". It's just annoying. You should also be able to leave comments in the YouTube way, i.e. not being taken from page to page to do so.

This was a feature awhile back if I remember. You could do it from your profile, it was probably removed for a good reason. Not sure what though. Like the idea of voting on the same page though.

Bigger "SUBMIT CONTENT" link and more focus on viewing your account details
When I first joined NG, it took me a while to figure out how to upload a movie. Perhaps making a bigger link could increase spam, but meh. There are always people who will create alt accounts or use different IP addresses with this system, so there's really no way of stopping the spam.

Agreed. Maybe not with the IP adress thing since some people have changing IP's.

And yes, you should be able to see how many messagesy ou have on every page without having to go to a new section. Also perhaps some stats on video views, latest awards.

Agreed.

The NG "Gamertag"...?
A little XBOX-esque NG card would be cool. Like with your name, an icon and your latest movies, batting average etc. That would kick ass.

Fanboys: leik omg u dun hav 360 lol
Fanboys: OMG Newgrundz supr0ts teh three shixty!

Polls on the forums
Every good forum has an option for creating a poll. Don't let NG lag behind without one.

Nope. This just isn't the kind of forum that would benifit from that. Don't know why I think this, just doesn't seem to fit in.

I'm gay.

You sure are. Post this here.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 06:16:25

I'm sure we all know about the new NG layout, so here are my suggestions for what would make the site a lot more appealing:

More graphics-based home page
The icons are currently too small and there's nothing which really makes you go "Yeah, I want to check this out" without looking really closely.

One-click viewing and voting
Like on YouTube, you should be able to click a submission's link and go staight to it without any beginning screen with "PLAY THIS GAME", for example.
The movie's page should also include a vote panel which just counts your damn vote without taking you to the "You voted .... on this submission, raising it to...". It's just annoying. You should also be able to leave comments in the YouTube way, i.e. not being taken from page to page to do so.

Bigger "SUBMIT CONTENT" link and more focus on viewing your account details
When I first joined NG, it took me a while to figure out how to upload a movie. Perhaps making a bigger link could increase spam, but meh. There are always people who will create alt accounts or use different IP addresses with this system, so there's really no way of stopping the spam.
And yes, you should be able to see how many messagesy ou have on every page without having to go to a new section. Also perhaps some stats on video views, latest awards.

The NG "Gamertag"...?
A little XBOX-esque NG card would be cool. Like with your name, an icon and your latest movies, batting average etc. That would kick ass.

Polls on the forums
Every good forum has an option for creating a poll. Don't let NG lag behind without one.

Well, that's about it. All other stuff, such as an updated audio portal, bitesize etc, has been publicized already.

Feedback is welcomed.

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I know Darkside already responded, but I thought I'd post it here so everyone else can.

Also, I like my idea of the NG card. It could be easily done with a little .png image file and with people posting it in forum sigs and stuff, NG would be advertised well.


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 06:18:40

At 2/10/07 06:16 AM, Mr-Money wrote: I know Darkside already responded, but I thought I'd post it here so everyone else can.

Just thought i'd do it for you :)

Actually, I typed out the response and the topic got locked. Copy and pasted it because some ideas were good, wasn't sure if you were going to move it.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 10:14:10

Liljim, your HTML aids are nice, but have you noticed the functions on some modern message boards? They allow you to select a chunk of text in your post, click ie. italic, and it automatically wraps the selected italic tags around the selected text. And similiarly for links, too: if you select some text, click link, it should just ask what is the href parameter and automatically wrap it around the selected text.

Just some web 2.0-ish suggestions which would be nice to see.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 11:43:12

At 2/10/07 06:16 AM, Mr-Money wrote: Polls on the forums

You'd do well to read the first post to this thread.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 11:43:41

At 2/10/07 10:14 AM, juraj wrote: but have you noticed the functions on some modern message boards? They allow you to select a chunk of text in your post, click ie. italic, and it automatically wraps the selected italic tags around the selected text.

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=58 2381

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 12:28:20

a chance to break the text in your profile message maybe? My current profile message would be a lot better if I could make a new line for -none-

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 16:19:07

At 2/10/07 11:43 AM, liljim wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=58 2381

Thank you. Sorry on being lazy.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 16:43:50

At 2/10/07 12:28 PM, SBB wrote: a chance to break the text in your profile message maybe? My current profile message would be a lot better if I could make a new line for -none-

I totally agree. That is the one thing that annoys me a lot. My profile message has more than one and you cant split each different topic up onto a new line.

I would love to be able to, and it would look much better. Although you wouldnt be able to type as much because every line break would cause less room for text.


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 16:47:21

At 2/10/07 04:43 PM, Sterockicy wrote:
At 2/10/07 12:28 PM, SBB wrote: a chance to break the text in your profile message maybe? My current profile message would be a lot better if I could make a new line for -none-
Although you wouldnt be able to type as much because every line break would cause less room for text.

you could type just as much text if you wrote everything in a block

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 23:03:52

Two ideas for new features on the forums:

1. A "Mark all as read" button. I'm not sure how the code works, so I can't get more specific, but it's pretty self explanatory. Pretty useful feature in other forums I've used.
2. An "Ignore this thread" button. Would be good for users who don't want to sift through some of the garbage discussions. You could just ignore them, but this could permanently set a thread's tank icon to gray, making browsing a little faster. Might be an increase on server load, again, I'm not sure how the code works.

I'd say the first would be a lot more helpful (and used) than the second, but both would be nice.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-11 01:31:27

I'll edit this post with useful info later.

OH WAIT.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-11 01:39:48

Modify view count to let you see downloads and not just views. There is so much spam traffic through Newgrounds that it is impossible to get an accurate count of downloads.