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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-08 15:06:47

However LoV what that will do is discourage up and coming flash makers. Right now I am in the works of making a flash and I expect it will probably come in below 2. If my flash doesn't make it then how will I get any criticism on how to make it better. This is a site for experienced flashes and people trying to get better. The reason for this site is so your flash doesnt have to be excellent to get posted. I like the numbers as they are because they keep the site easy enough to get a flash onto and then learn more from the experience around you and the helpful reviewers that might not be able to see it while it is in the process of being blammed.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-08 15:16:27

I say we make it so you get 50 points per flash and 20 per audio. However blammed or ratings under 2.0 should get you docked 100 points.

When you reach zero and go under your account is deleted.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-08 22:46:29

Get rid of the Turd of the Week award. It used to be an award to showcase the worst flash entry of the week that still ended up passing. They would normally be so bad they were funny. Nowadays though, the award usually goes to a group of idiots who were trying to win the award by manipulating the system. It's usually just a pre-loader and a one-frame animation with a title designed to attract negative attention. After it gets off the portal mainpage, the artist and his group of friends vote it down all week to ensure their objective. Having the Turd of the Week award showcases these idiots' handiwork. It also encourages people to spam the portal with garbage with no intention other than to amuse their immature selves and piss off other people. The award no longer serves a positive purpose for the portal. Get rid of it.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-08 22:51:52

To further illustrate my point, have a look at the past 4 months worth of Turds. It's the same groups of retards almost every week. If it's not members of the Kitty Krew it's members of the Star Syndicate.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-09 04:37:47

At 2/8/07 03:16 PM, Chris-V2 wrote: I say we make it so you get 50 points per flash and 20 per audio. However blammed or ratings under 2.0 should get you docked 100 points.

When you reach zero and go under your account is deleted.

Wow. You know how many exp points the Kitty Krew could get a day? They can submit 2 a day, plus co-author 9 others. So they could get around 1,000xp a day if just 10 of them decide to submit 2 flash each. All will pass, the system will be screwed.

Being docked pts is ridiculous. Not only will it discourage up and coming artists, but deleting an account just because their flash quality isn't up to par with others is stupid.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-09 17:19:58

At 2/8/07 10:51 PM, Sakurazukamori wrote: To further illustrate my point, have a look at the past 4 months worth of Turds. It's the same groups of retards almost every week. If it's not members of the Kitty Krew it's members of the Star Syndicate.

I agree, I've heard them fighting over who gets it next.

My idea is a Downloads section, so you can download screensavers, wallpapers, and other stuff.

I also think auras should be decided for you.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-09 22:44:32

I agree with auras being decided for you. Like with me I have more saves than blams so I should have a light aura. For someone who has more blams it should be automatically dark. It would just be another cool feature of the site for people to try to change about themselves.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-09 22:49:28

At 2/9/07 10:44 PM, head2toewinner wrote: I agree with auras being decided for you. Like with me I have more saves than blams so I should have a light aura. For someone who has more blams it should be automatically dark. It would just be another cool feature of the site for people to try to change about themselves.

That seems like a good idea. The only issue that could rise from it is that some users may purposely blam everything just to get the "rarest" aura. I doubt that though!

Good idea!


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 00:18:01

At 2/9/07 10:49 PM, Sterockicy wrote:
At 2/9/07 10:44 PM, head2toewinner wrote: I agree with auras being decided for you. Like with me I have more saves than blams so I should have a light aura. For someone who has more blams it should be automatically dark. It would just be another cool feature of the site for people to try to change about themselves.
That seems like a good idea. The only issue that could rise from it is that some users may purposely blam everything just to get the "rarest" aura. I doubt that though!

Good idea!

Actually, I believe it was already like this at one point, and it DID raise issues just as you pointed out Sterockicy. Plus, once the new layout is released along with new user levels we will have additional aura's anyway, making this idea a bit pointless to impliment.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 01:07:03

At 2/9/07 10:44 PM, head2toewinner wrote: I agree with auras being decided for you. Like with me I have more saves than blams so I should have a light aura. For someone who has more blams it should be automatically dark. It would just be another cool feature of the site for people to try to change about themselves.

I originally thought this, but then realized, no, it doesn't work. There's more movies that deserve to be blammed submitted than there are those that deserve to be saved.
Some people might want a light aura and therefore start voting high on crap and releasing a ton of garbage out of judgement just to get one.
And someone who might want a dark aura will blam stuff, even that which deserves to come through.

People should vote on what they feel a submission deserves, and the aura should just be something they choose for themselves for the fun of it.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 06:12:27

At 2/10/07 06:06 AM, Mr-Money wrote: More graphics-based home page
The icons are currently too small and there's nothing which really makes you go "Yeah, I want to check this out" without looking really closely.

How do you know this already hasn't happened?

One-click viewing and voting
Like on YouTube, you should be able to click a submission's link and go staight to it without any beginning screen with "PLAY THIS GAME", for example.
The movie's page should also include a vote panel which just counts your damn vote without taking you to the "You voted .... on this submission, raising it to...". It's just annoying. You should also be able to leave comments in the YouTube way, i.e. not being taken from page to page to do so.

This was a feature awhile back if I remember. You could do it from your profile, it was probably removed for a good reason. Not sure what though. Like the idea of voting on the same page though.

Bigger "SUBMIT CONTENT" link and more focus on viewing your account details
When I first joined NG, it took me a while to figure out how to upload a movie. Perhaps making a bigger link could increase spam, but meh. There are always people who will create alt accounts or use different IP addresses with this system, so there's really no way of stopping the spam.

Agreed. Maybe not with the IP adress thing since some people have changing IP's.

And yes, you should be able to see how many messagesy ou have on every page without having to go to a new section. Also perhaps some stats on video views, latest awards.

Agreed.

The NG "Gamertag"...?
A little XBOX-esque NG card would be cool. Like with your name, an icon and your latest movies, batting average etc. That would kick ass.

Fanboys: leik omg u dun hav 360 lol
Fanboys: OMG Newgrundz supr0ts teh three shixty!

Polls on the forums
Every good forum has an option for creating a poll. Don't let NG lag behind without one.

Nope. This just isn't the kind of forum that would benifit from that. Don't know why I think this, just doesn't seem to fit in.

I'm gay.

You sure are. Post this here.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 06:16:25

I'm sure we all know about the new NG layout, so here are my suggestions for what would make the site a lot more appealing:

More graphics-based home page
The icons are currently too small and there's nothing which really makes you go "Yeah, I want to check this out" without looking really closely.

One-click viewing and voting
Like on YouTube, you should be able to click a submission's link and go staight to it without any beginning screen with "PLAY THIS GAME", for example.
The movie's page should also include a vote panel which just counts your damn vote without taking you to the "You voted .... on this submission, raising it to...". It's just annoying. You should also be able to leave comments in the YouTube way, i.e. not being taken from page to page to do so.

Bigger "SUBMIT CONTENT" link and more focus on viewing your account details
When I first joined NG, it took me a while to figure out how to upload a movie. Perhaps making a bigger link could increase spam, but meh. There are always people who will create alt accounts or use different IP addresses with this system, so there's really no way of stopping the spam.
And yes, you should be able to see how many messagesy ou have on every page without having to go to a new section. Also perhaps some stats on video views, latest awards.

The NG "Gamertag"...?
A little XBOX-esque NG card would be cool. Like with your name, an icon and your latest movies, batting average etc. That would kick ass.

Polls on the forums
Every good forum has an option for creating a poll. Don't let NG lag behind without one.

Well, that's about it. All other stuff, such as an updated audio portal, bitesize etc, has been publicized already.

Feedback is welcomed.

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I know Darkside already responded, but I thought I'd post it here so everyone else can.

Also, I like my idea of the NG card. It could be easily done with a little .png image file and with people posting it in forum sigs and stuff, NG would be advertised well.


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 06:18:40

At 2/10/07 06:16 AM, Mr-Money wrote: I know Darkside already responded, but I thought I'd post it here so everyone else can.

Just thought i'd do it for you :)

Actually, I typed out the response and the topic got locked. Copy and pasted it because some ideas were good, wasn't sure if you were going to move it.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 10:14:10

Liljim, your HTML aids are nice, but have you noticed the functions on some modern message boards? They allow you to select a chunk of text in your post, click ie. italic, and it automatically wraps the selected italic tags around the selected text. And similiarly for links, too: if you select some text, click link, it should just ask what is the href parameter and automatically wrap it around the selected text.

Just some web 2.0-ish suggestions which would be nice to see.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 11:43:12

At 2/10/07 06:16 AM, Mr-Money wrote: Polls on the forums

You'd do well to read the first post to this thread.

Suggested ideas rejected:
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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 11:43:41

At 2/10/07 10:14 AM, juraj wrote: but have you noticed the functions on some modern message boards? They allow you to select a chunk of text in your post, click ie. italic, and it automatically wraps the selected italic tags around the selected text.

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=58 2381

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 12:28:20

a chance to break the text in your profile message maybe? My current profile message would be a lot better if I could make a new line for -none-

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 16:19:07

At 2/10/07 11:43 AM, liljim wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=58 2381

Thank you. Sorry on being lazy.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 16:43:50

At 2/10/07 12:28 PM, SBB wrote: a chance to break the text in your profile message maybe? My current profile message would be a lot better if I could make a new line for -none-

I totally agree. That is the one thing that annoys me a lot. My profile message has more than one and you cant split each different topic up onto a new line.

I would love to be able to, and it would look much better. Although you wouldnt be able to type as much because every line break would cause less room for text.


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 16:47:21

At 2/10/07 04:43 PM, Sterockicy wrote:
At 2/10/07 12:28 PM, SBB wrote: a chance to break the text in your profile message maybe? My current profile message would be a lot better if I could make a new line for -none-
Although you wouldnt be able to type as much because every line break would cause less room for text.

you could type just as much text if you wrote everything in a block

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-10 23:03:52

Two ideas for new features on the forums:

1. A "Mark all as read" button. I'm not sure how the code works, so I can't get more specific, but it's pretty self explanatory. Pretty useful feature in other forums I've used.
2. An "Ignore this thread" button. Would be good for users who don't want to sift through some of the garbage discussions. You could just ignore them, but this could permanently set a thread's tank icon to gray, making browsing a little faster. Might be an increase on server load, again, I'm not sure how the code works.

I'd say the first would be a lot more helpful (and used) than the second, but both would be nice.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-11 01:31:27

I'll edit this post with useful info later.

OH WAIT.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-11 01:39:48

Modify view count to let you see downloads and not just views. There is so much spam traffic through Newgrounds that it is impossible to get an accurate count of downloads.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-11 04:31:47

At 2/11/07 01:39 AM, Altarus wrote: Modify view count to let you see downloads and not just views. There is so much spam traffic through Newgrounds that it is impossible to get an accurate count of downloads.

And just for the hell of it, Co-Authors and the original Author shouldn't be added to the count. Just to get a more accurate idea of where the submittion is when first passing through the portal.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-12 07:28:48

I seriously think the number of chars allowed in a password should be doubled from 10 to 20.

Specially with a few folk having recently been password-hacked, I was a tad concerned and wanted to lengthen mine. Probably to 16 chars, but 20 seems a reasonable limit.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-14 16:48:23

See the thread I made in general aobut raising minimum score for flash.

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=65 5715

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-15 16:40:37

Why can't we PM ourselves? It would be useful, so I can use my (otherwise empty) PM inbox as a pastebin or something.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-18 17:34:21

At 2/15/07 07:53 AM, cementsocks wrote: I've been on the BBS for a good while now, and I have something to suggest.

Everyday, umpteen users sign up, and many of them make threads. Now, threads are the bread and butter of forums, and the 3 topic per day limit is swell and all, but I think there should be a time limit between started topics. For example, you can only make one of your three per 30 minutes. I'm sick of going on the forums and seeing 3 (usually pointless) topics by the same (noob idiot) loser all on the front at one time. Not only does it push more useless topics off the screen, but it drives me fucking mad.

Personally, I think one topic a day would be enough. With a forum as massive as Newgrounds, people should be worrying about the quality of just a single thread. If they have two great ideas in a single day, they only have to wait a 24 hours. They can use that time to manage and improve the thread they already have up.

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2007-02-18 22:59:04

NG removes tools from the author's submission options after certain waypoints. For instance, after 400 votes, you can no longer remove a flash. After awhile, you no longer are able to update the flash icon. And so on.

My solution--do not remove any tools. Instead, just make it so that these changes must be verified by admins or special mods after the waypoints have been hit.