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At 6/9/05 11:45 AM, metalhead676 wrote: for those taking moore down and supporting coulter, moore does his research, coulter just mouths off.

Hey Mr Michael Moore Canadian Fan Club President, have you ever read anythign by Coulter, or do you just see the 30 second clip played on the liberal propaganda show known as the Daily Show? I doubt you have done your research. I have personally read whole Coulter articles, not just snippits from one. Hell I own one of her books. She does her research, she knows her facts. Sure she has a few mistakes, but everyone has some, Moore included. Atleast she has the balls (no pun intended) to say what people find to be contreversial, she doesn't sugar coat it, tone it down so it can be mainstream. She says it how it is.

This post is funny

At 6/9/05 04:29 PM, Sivak wrote: Well, thats the only legitimate way to have a debate. Isnt it?

Nah, in the senate they do things different, there they never answer questions and constantly change the topic.

But at least it isn't the British Parliament where they just swear profusely at eachother.

"The only difference is that when conservatives do it they are right. If you support stem cell research, what you support is taking the life of a living fetus and extracting its code for research. That's wrong. If you believe in separation of church and state, fine, good for you, but if you believe it's in the Constitution and not a judicial precedent, you're wrong. And if you want to ban children from praying in school or saying "under God" in the pledge, then yes, you are an extremist atheist nutjob.

And the reason we question liberal's patriotism is because they spit on the American flag and burn it during protests. I have liberal friends who openly admit they don't like America."

that was pretty damn stuck up for you to say my friend. the only difference is that conservatives are right? i have yet to hear a more biased, unthought argument. stick to bashing because your debate skills are pretty damn retarded. no im not a jesus hating athesist but i believe in sep of church and state. im not a baby killer, but a person who believes christopher reeve had a chance

you need to understand that if you are gonna crticize, dont be a hypcrite; you are JUST as biased as the people you "hate"

ima christian and i believe in separation in church and state, but not STRICT separtation. that is the lefters and i mean DEEp lefters like michael moore, and the majority of the liberal party hate his fat ass.

FYI hippies are conservatives....

common sense > bi-partisanism

People that attach themselves to a party by definition fail at life.

Grow up, you little children.

How many threads about extremist political pundits do we need, on the BBS? Thirty? A hundred? A thousand?

And you little kids all post the same shit.
"Ann Coulter has a manly neck.''
''Ann Coulter is an extremist who hates minorities and non-chrisitans.''
''Ann Coulter is a war-monger, and she's a filthy dirty republican.''

Grow the fuck up. You're all redundant.

Yes, Coulter is an extremist. Yes, she's an conservative ideologue. Yes, she may be racist, and sexist, and ignorant.

But most pundits are that way. Moore, Coulter, O'Reilly, Franken, Hannity, Boortz, Limbaugh...they're all the same. They're all extremist. They're all ignorant. None of them know what they're talking about.

And you all give them the attention they so desperately crave. Good job on feeding them. Congrats on enabling them. Hurrah for buying into them, exactly like they wanted you to.

At 6/9/05 10:06 PM, Jimsween wrote: But at least it isn't the British Parliament where they just swear profusely at eachother.

Where the hell did you get that impression from? Compared to American Politics, British politics is all hugs and kisses. At least our parties,and the people who support them, can talk to each other without hurling insults at each other.

And theres more laughter in parliament than swearing as the parites always try and take a swift jab at someone when they get the chance by taking the piss in a freindly way. And the way parliament works is really formal,everyone has to be reffered to as the right honourable mp form where ever, and I really can't see the leader of the hosue of commons standing for swearing at all. They'd be sent out I'd imgine then they'd get a stern verbal beating from their Party leader or,in the case of labour, the PM.

And as for the rest of westminster and whitehall I somehow doubt the swearing in it is as bad as the political satire shows portray it.

You know, FLAGG has a point. Not only are we sitting here debating a useless subject about left/right wing extremists and whether or not they are all idiots. We ourseleves are being extremists by not being open to any one elses comments. Once we take sides in a more or less lucid way in which we cannot be shaken from our positions in any way. And would probabbly die before we do. By having all this namecalling which im sure would not happen in real life to just anyone from anywhere we are becoming extremists, like Ann Coulter and Mike Moore, which is what most of us ((take out acutual "extremists")) dont want to be seen as or be at all.

I'm sick of this debate, lets face it, micheal moore does know his shit , ann coulter is stupid cunt who shoots her mouth off and masturbates with kkk hood shaped dildos. Micheal moore has a beef wiht something, he reserches is, than does a two hour film.

At 6/10/05 01:17 PM, metalhead676 wrote: I'm sick of this debate, lets face it, micheal moore does know his shit , ann coulter is stupid cunt who shoots her mouth off and masturbates with kkk hood shaped dildos. Micheal moore has a beef wiht something, he reserches is, than does a two hour film.

Cute.

Wow, you certainly know how to intelligently articulate your point of view.

However, I must respectfully disagree. If you do your own research (it's not too terribly difficult, I'm sure that you can find the time) you'll find out how, through creative editing, smoke & mirrors and flat out lying, Michael Moore makes films.

Of course, there's no point in even arguing this with you, but I just can't help myself.

I think, deep down inside, we're all menstruating vaginas.

People we can be going back and forth about whos better Ann or Mike for all of time. If we bring it to a liberal/ conservative arguement i am sure we will be here for even LONGER than the end of time. Lets just drop this huh?

At 6/8/05 04:49 PM, MoralLibertarian wrote: I feel like I'm on DU. The left are a bunch of idiots.

Holy shit, did hell just freez over or did someone actually just defend Ann Coulter?

Ah, premature post. =(

Agreed, Coulter and Moore fall in their own categories and really should be taken with a grain of salt. I suppose when it comes right down to it both of them get on the screen and people forget that these guys deliver shock politics to power their image. It's quite an achievement to be well-known in politics and not be a nut-job to the other half of the spectrum.

Damn you libs are such fascist shit eating bunch of fucking morons. Any idea that doesn't fit your socialist/communist agenda make the purveyor of that idea a homophobe, racist, war mongerer, Bush lover, etc. etc.

Ann Coulter has strong opinions, and at least has the ovaries to stick by her opinions, rather than changing them whenever Barbara Boxer or Cynthia McKinney tells her to like the Dems do.

I have yet to meet ONE idiot liberal with an original idea except for "Bush Lied, People Died", and it seems as if all you think you made that up. Guess what? ONE person said it and the rest of you lemmings repeat it.

I am a lifelong Democrat (emabarrassed by you Kerry/Kennedy lovers) that is sick and tired of what my party has become. As an ex-flower child, I still believe in peace and love. Yet when someone murders 3,000 Americans and threatens to kill as many as possible, peace and love are out and mindless violence is suddenly a good thing.

Please, if you love socialism and communism so much, North Korea, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Chile and some other South American and Eastern European nations would welcome your Stalin and Pol Pot loving ass.

At 6/8/05 04:54 PM, Sivak wrote:

At 6/8/05 04:49 PM, MoralLibertarian wrote: Remind me why I'm not a liberal aga...oh yeah, I remember.

Liberals have been using this tactic for decades. If you don't support affirmative action and/or support strong border control, than you're a racist. If you don't want gays marrying, you hate gays. If you speak out against liberals or liberalism, you're "spreading hatred" or "inciting violence." And all you have to do is prove your rhetoric is take their quotes out of context and then talk about what a bitch nazi neo-con-fascist she is.

No intelligent debate can happen under these circumstances. That's why I'd rather bash liberals than try to debate them. I have a feeling that's why she does too. She just calls a spade as a spade and treats you all with the respect you deserve (which is none).

I feel like I'm on DU. The left are a bunch of idiots.

Pot calling the kettle black, in my opinion. If you support stem-cell research, you're a baby-killing bastard. If you belive in separation af church and stsate, you're a Jesus-hating atheist. If you don't agree with anything Bush says, you're unamerican. It's a tactic everone uses, and everyone is a dick for using it.

At 6/8/05 05:08 PM, Wadezilla wrote: So you're basically saying that what you value and find to be moral is the correct way to do things? Just because you don't believe in abortion, stem cell research, upon other things doesn't mean that it is wrong to do such deeds.

If it's a human being, yes it's wrong, despite what you believe. The only question is: is it human? That's the only question that matters. "Beliefs" are irrelevant.

The thing I don't get about you neo-cons is how you can claim that abortion is wrong but the death penalty is alright. The process of abortion involves the removal of an UNDEVELOPED FETUS whereas an execution is the extermination of a fully grown man/woman. Sure, you can claim that they have been convicted of a crime and therefore deserve to die.

You know, it's just as stupid as those who argue that those who murder others have just as much of a right to life as the innocent who have yet to do anything wrong. We're putting down rabid animals. Jesus also said that he came to fulfill the law, not abolish it. And part of the law was the death penalty. By the way, he's a libertarian, not a neo-con. Learn the difference.

At 6/8/05 06:49 PM, capn_g wrote: I'm pretty sure there's something in the founding of america that gives the citizenry the right to disagree with the government is they so choose. Something about "freedom", whatever that is.

No, but he can claim them to be unpatriotic for hating the very country that gives them the freedom of expression to say they hate it. And no, most of my American hating friends hated it when Clinton was in power. You have the right to free speech, and we have the right to call a spade a spade.

At 6/8/05 06:55 PM, TCStyle wrote: LOL@U
Do you serious think anyone takes Michael Moore seriously? Please, he's an entertainer, not a politician. On the other hand, Ann Coulter is an actual politican. The fact that you bring up little Mikey M in this post just goes to show how little you know.

YES. Of course people take him seriously. Are you retarded? Why else do all his books hit number one? Ann Coulter is called an analyst. She has NO office, and therefore is NOT a politician. You're commenting on stuff you have no clue about. Real politician.....what a joke.

At 6/8/05 08:42 PM, capn_g wrote: If only more conservatives WOULD say that Coulter would probably not have the same ability to raise ire as she does now.

Plenty of them denounce her now, and she's still popular. She's popular because she's entertaining and controversial, and says things many people are thinking.

At 6/8/05 09:31 PM, Grammer wrote: That's not true, in fact it's a stereotype, please shut up.

That's what he said. It's called reading comprehension. Learn it.

Or perhaps you can't win? Seems like most of the common sense arguments are on our side (well, most of them)

Like what? Please. The failing school system should get even MORE money? Black people should get reparations?

At 6/9/05 10:38 AM, Wadezilla wrote:

I'm not bitching because Coulter makes fun of Liberals, I'm bitching because she is a menstruation vagina. She is a perfect example of why a majority of foreign nations hate the US. She is a Jesus hugging, ethnocentric, corporate licking whorebag and needs to be shot immediatly.

Yea, that's intelligent debate. "I hate her because she's a vagina." I hate Moore because he's an American hating fat piece of garbage. Happy?

At 6/8/05 04:26 PM, Wadezilla wrote:

At 6/8/05 04:22 PM, chuckfucter wrote: This thread is useless without pics.

http://www.cpl.net/~..coulter-lingerie.jpg

Theres a pic.

IT BURNS!!!!

At 6/9/05 11:45 AM, metalhead676 wrote: for those taking moore down and supporting coulter, moore does his research, coulter just mouths off.

Moore is even farther off than Coulter. Two seconds of research shows him wrong. Read: Christopher Hitchens "The Deceits of Feirenheit 9/11".

At 6/9/05 01:19 PM, metalhead676 wrote: Well, it is a fact that bush was bydies with bin laden, there is photos, records and videos to prove it.

No, there's not. Idiot. Even in his movie, Moore said the Bushies were friends with the TALIBAN. You didn't even watch his movie did you.

At 6/9/05 02:46 PM, TCStyle wrote: I guess you have never heard her voice her opinion on the French. www.mediamatters.org.....

You mean where she calls them all cowards? That's not racist. No more than saying all liberals are idiots. There are black Frenchies after all. Nationality vs race.

At 6/8/05 11:20 PM, commanderkai wrote:

1 entries found for politician.
pol·i·ti·cian
1. One who is actively involved in politics, especially party politics.

You don't need to be part of the Senate of Congress to be a politician.

Well, then Moore is a politician, by your own definition. As he actually lobbies for people.

At 6/9/05 03:15 PM, totalwar wrote: Moral get over yourself. Most stem cells, in a world wtihouot Bush's ban, would come from extra blastocysts (the immediate result of the sperm and egg merging) that DIDN'T get used for in-vitro. They basically get thrown down the sink. Why waste that potential cure. This is one thing where even you have to admit that Bush is wrong on this one.

On a side note, Bush's ban is gonna be overturned by Congress pretty soon. :)

His ban was on federal funding. And no, there's no sign that it will be overturned ANY time soon. The Republicans, who are still in control, are still very much against it.

At 6/9/05 03:28 PM, totalwar wrote: Why you ask, should government fund stem cell research? Simple over 50% of all funding for scientific research in this country comes from the government. If the government doesn't fund it then it won't be able to conduct anywhere near the level of research to bring to fruition the potential of stem cells until far in the future. You may not like that the government spends so much on science but until someone is willing to step into it's place I'm in no rush for it to stop.

You do realize that 50% of the funding for science, by your own argument, DOESN'T come from gov't. And that other 50% does more. Science would still be funded. There would just be less idiot research like: When do titsy flies mate? You do realize corporations have more money than the gov't right?

At 6/9/05 05:00 PM, Evil_Alex37 wrote:

At 6/8/05 04:22 PM, chuckfucter wrote: This thread is useless without pics.

Here is a pic.

Gee, another Ann Coulter's ADAMS APPLE joke. How original. I say you have a vagina.

At 6/10/05 12:31 AM, S_W_A_R_M-generation wrote: that was pretty damn stuck up for you to say my friend. the only difference is that conservatives are right? i have yet to hear a more biased, unthought argument. stick to bashing because your debate skills are pretty damn retarded. no im not a jesus hating athesist but i believe in sep of church and state. im not a baby killer, but a person who believes christopher reeve had a chance

He did have a chance. It was called someone who would make sure he was turned every few hours so he didn't get bed sores. ML's pretty damn good at debating, and you are just angry.

FYI hippies are conservatives....

Not only is that a generalization, but it's wrong. Hippies are liberals moron.

At 6/10/05 01:17 PM, metalhead676 wrote: I'm sick of this debate, lets face it, micheal moore does know his shit , ann coulter is stupid cunt who shoots her mouth off and masturbates with kkk hood shaped dildos. Micheal moore has a beef wiht something, he reserches is, than does a two hour film.

You're an idiot. Stop speaking. Most liberals bash Moore for his inaccuracy. Does his research....yes, just like the national enquirer, check, check and double check, just to make sure he's wrong.