At 6/11/05 05:01 AM, TomaO2 wrote:
This... this is so wrong I don't even know where to begin. Oh wait, I yes I do. Back Door Baron? Who the heck is he? I wrote this. I mean really... How hard is it to quote a person properly?
Not very. I've probably quoted around 30,000 posts in the past 2.5 years (if not more). And about 29,950 of those times, I've done it correctly. No one's perfect.
Back_Door_Baron Posted: 6/7/05 03:12 PM
TomaO2 Posted: 6/7/05 03:19 PM
When I was juggling quotes from page 2 in notepad to try and multi-quote reply to everyone, I somehow snipped out the quoteblock of BDB's post BUT NOT THE "At blahblah, ____ wrote:" attribution line, and it ended up above yours and I didn't notice the error.
Just a simple error, nothing to freak out about. Sorry. O_o
As for the rest, did you actually read what I said?
Um... no, I didn't. I was just replying to it while guessing what you had said. That's my style. #;-}>
I don't appreciate having that post labeled as hate, by the way.
(sigh) ... my all-caps, obviously-tongue-in-cheek line that started off my reply to you AND SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE... was not meant to be taken seriously.
Although, I'll admit I was somewhat unfair when I talked about DucktalesZ (which you didn't mention this time around but might later so I'll cover myself). It's actually a good flash I just don't agree with it's high rating.
You said you loathed it, though... why would you loathe a good flash? Anyway... if you don't appreciate it's score, then vote what you think it deserves (2, 3, whatever) in the portal every single day. You will eventually have an effect.
But please don't complain about its placement on the monthly vote ranks. The people had a vote, they used it, you disagree. We all move on. Not everyone is going to agree with all 5 picks each month.
Jeez, do I really need to re-explain myself? I thought I was clear when I wrote it. I will try ONE more time as I think I made a good point and am willing to elaborate as it may make others think about it. I will then ignore you if you can't be bothered to reply to me sensibly. Just like I am doing with that guy that responded to my DTZ rant. Ba, I work hard on my posts, it's really a downer to have the first person to reply to me write so nonsensically and now the second gives me this.
You made a point, and you made it coherently and intelligently. I just happen to disagree with it. And what exactly is the "this" I've given you? I work hard on my posts (and my reviews), too, yanno. A large portion (larger than that of most posters, certainly) of my posts reach or nearly reach the 6500 character limit. I type fast, but it still requires time, effort, attention, etc. etc... so I respect the care you give your own posts, but please don't disrespect me by implying I couldn't possibly understand that or possibly be anything like you in that regard. It's insulting, man.
Right off the bat, I said that it seems that you need more action or humor if you want to win an award here on Newgrounds. I mean, seriously.
First of all, I disagree with you. There's plenty of flash without action or humour that gets recognised as greatness and ends up high on the top 50 for a time. Take Galapagos, for example. For much of the first half of 2003, that movie was near the top of the top 50. It was a simple music video with three or four songs showing the cruelty and beauty of animals and nature in general. If it had been submitted in the past few months (or if there had been monthly awards in 2003), I believe it would have won a top 5 slot.
Don't tell me that people like things such as action or humor if I have already said so. It makes your statement redundant.
There was more to my statement than regurgitating what you had said, I was trying to say that wide variety of genres and types of flash movies and games do well on NG, and it just so happens that a couple of those were the ones you were complaining about being the ONLY ones that do well on NG.
I correctly picked NG Sim and Bunnykill 3 Pt1 to win awards
I was almost certain both of them would win spots in the top 5 as well. But I don't see what that has to do with the rest of this.
All I asked is can we not look beyond what we like the MOST personally and look at something that we also think is very good as well (though obviously still not as interesting to you as your personal favorites) and say something like:
"While this is not exactly my style, this new author (that has won nothing) has made something so good it deserves something for the work"?
Asking people to vote based on objective standards... to vote for artistic films, IOW... instead of simply entertaining movies... is unrealistic. Some people might try, most won't even bother. And many of those who do try will fail to do so completely successfully.
It's just not going to work.
Tom has already laid out SOME guidelines, and people do seem to be following them to a certain extent (don't vote for all-video-clip entries or those overly-featuring only commercial music)... let's take what we can get, eh? Baby steps.
I'm not asking you to vote on the Gooberstories (which you may find weird and totally uninteresting no matter how well done, mass appeal is important too. Don't ever think it's not) but the Nim's Tales that you probably like and realize are made well even if your something of a fanboy for other works that can be picked.
Screw mass appeal. Of course it's important (if you're trying to predict the winners in advance, as you seem to enjoy/feel compelled to do). But I don't vote based on what will win, I vote based on what I WANT to win.
I haven't seen Gooberstories, actually. But you know what? I'll check it out soon. I'm always open to any flash. That's why I sit on the portal and watch flashes and b/p a shitload. I wouldn't do it if I didn't enjoy a wide range of movies and games. At least, whatever this 7.5 year old computer can handle on low quality. #;-}>