Parallels Between the Parties

[Ravens-Grin]

I have started to think of all of the possible parallels between the two majority parties in the US, the Republicans and the Democrats. The more I endeavored into this problem, the more I realized how hypocritical each party is. I primarily thought about how each party views freedoms and what each party usually stands for.

Republicans typically stand for less government in our society. If one party would be for tax cuts, this would be it. This was evident in President Bush's solution to the budget surplus in his first term, he gave a tax cut to everyone instead of investing into social works projects. Typically these tax cuts that are given follow the Reganomics model, or Trickle-Down Economics Theory, which is often criticized by Democrats(but that is another issue altogether). The belief that the government should be as little as possible is evident in the Republican's policy on the economy, but how about the typical lives of Americans? The basic ideology to stay minimalistic as possible hits the door when it comes to our private lives for Republicans. Enforcement of morals when it is not a tort to society is infringement on our personal rights. So how has Republicans done this(don't worry I'll get to the Democrats in a little bit)? Trying to enforce pro-life legislation. As well as that, they are the primariy people that are trying to keep religious doctrines in public places.

Are they pushing the their morality down other people's throats? I think that's a good possibility. People in this world believe a variety of ideas. Some people might not think that stoning is a proper punishment, but in Iran it occurs. So why exactly does this occur in Iran? It is a pre-Islamic idea of punishment against crimes of morality. Obviously the right believes that they have the power to enforce morality on the population. Please though don't take what I said out of context too much, Islam is 10 folds more to the right then what most people consider what an extreme conservative is. Those are definetely vague and broad generalizations, but from what I have seen in the political world, it holds true most of the time for Republicans, or at least for the ideas of the Republican Party. If need be, I can go on about Republicans and their push for morality.

It's hypocritical in one hand to have a minimalistical view on government, but at the same time enforce one's own view of what morality is on the government. How can one person be a minimalist and try to pass legislation regarding the lives of individuals and not problems of society? Trying to enforce one's own views on another. Am I against morality? Of course not. Am I against morality enforced by the government? Shouldn't everyone?

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Now the Democratic party is also hypocritical on the same issues. They are instead of being minimalist, they try to do everything for the American people. All of the social works legislation that has passed in the past several decades have been very liberal legislation. The New Deal was liberal for it's time, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and now an idea that has just now recently been put on the backburner of the Democratic party, the national healthcare system. Obviously all of these policies require money, and the Federal Government gets money in several ways. Through tariffs, taxes, corporate taxes, and bonds.

Now the Democratic party is for less government in the home on the basis of morals(abortion, gay marriage, et cetera, et cetera), but at the same time is asking for more and more government economically. This is another hypocritical standpoint; It's the complete opposite of the beliefs of the majority of Republicans.

So that's the parallel, but parties are hypocritical in the view on what they see as whether or not there should be more or less government. Neither party satisfies either fancies.

[MortifiedPenguins]

thats why if you were american you vote independent. someone who cares for the country, not for thier party.

[theburningliberal]

It could be argued that the parallel between the parties is that they are both hypocritical. 0_0

But seriously, I think it is true that the stances of both parties are hypocritical. Personally, I am against big government period, which means I am a Republican economically, a Democrat morally, and somewhere in the middle militarily.

*shrug*

[drDAK]

Political Parties are supposedly made to bring people of similar beliefs together, but all they do is dictate some peoples opinions. >=(

[Guitarmy]

It's a bit different than that. Right wing vs Left wing is economic difference Right wing is bassically the economic portion of Capitalism, You can spend your money and get rich, if you're rich america is rich therefore keep your money put it to good use. It's the idea that everyone has a right to fail or succeed, if you've ever heard the two cows thing that was passed along the internet, that was more accurate than funny. Democrats in contrast are moving for a more left wing socialist government no one fails, the rich cover the poor and everyone has an equal chance socially, no classes.

Independant doesn't have one excact stance, because it is covered by bassically every other party we have our communist party, our nazi party, our socialist party, our aryan (kkk) party... the list goes on, you have to be very careful in that respect. Don't just blindly vote Independant.

In conclusion Democrats are for a strong centralized government, everything has a standard, your house can only be two stories, your car can't have an extended bumper, you can work hard, but it won't pay off because it goes back to the government to pay for our collapsing social programs and things of that nature our country would become a communist nation if democrats got too much power, because eventually there would be extremists. People didn't elect bush because they're morons they elected him because he's a republican and republicans are for your money staying on you. Anarchists are a strong right wing party.

Frankly the whole left wing sector is dangerous to freedom.

[Guitarmy]

At 6/1/05 05:28 PM, Aristotle2005 wrote: It could be argued that the parallel between the parties is that they are both hypocritical. 0_0

But seriously, I think it is true that the stances of both parties are hypocritical. Personally, I am against big government period, which means I am a Republican economically, a Democrat morally, and somewhere in the middle militarily.

*shrug*

Most people are believe it or not, they're just confused over which is more important economic freedom or moral freedom, I believe economic freedom is the beginning to all freedoms, becuase old people die the norm shifts liberal and conservative will take on new meaning.

[Ravens-Grin]

At 6/1/05 05:59 PM, Guitarmy wrote: In conclusion Democrats are for a strong centralized government, everything has a standard, your house can only be two stories, your car can't have an extended bumper, you can work hard, but it won't pay off because it goes back to the government to pay for our collapsing social programs and things of that nature our country would become a communist nation if democrats got too much power,

because eventually there would be extremists.

In our history, everytime the idea of communism came up, everyone cringed. It occurred after World War I during the Bolshevik Rebellion. It happened again after World War II with the Cold War. There is no possibility that the country could enter a communistic state unless the current government somehow becomes deeply flawed and corrupted. The mentality of the American people would not allow it, both Republicans and Democrats. As for the extremists part, there are always extremists in a party. Kennedy is one for the Democratic party, and I'm sure someone could pick one for the Republican party

People didn't elect bush because they're morons they elected him because he's a republican and republicans are for your money staying on you.

Tax cuts, k, no argument if you're rich. $90,000 limit to the taxable income for social security anyone?

Anarchists are a strong right wing party.

Anarchists are the complete opposite of authority, so they're naturally on the left. In my opinion, they shouldn't be on the political spectrum because anarchism isn't a type of government, it's an absence of government.

[chaos999]

To have your moral freedom is the seed of all other freedoms. Moral freedom setups up a base for you to grow, such as a business. Since under the first amendment you can say what you want, if its symbolic or verbal. You have the right to your freedoms but you have to work for your own econmic interests.

[Ravens-Grin]

At 6/1/05 06:32 PM, chaos999 wrote: To have your moral freedom is the seed of all other freedoms. Moral freedom setups up a base for you to grow, such as a business. Since under the first amendment you can say what you want, if its symbolic or verbal. You have the right to your freedoms but you have to work for your own econmic interests.

Which party promotes both?

[theburningliberal]

The Libertarians, which is the party I will register for.

[thekinman]

That's why I always smack anyone ( mostly conservatives, but some liberals too) that claims to be anti government but isnt a libertarian.
It realy got me in trouble when I slapped my claculus teacher way back when.

[chaos999]

At 6/1/05 07:05 PM, Ravens_Grin wrote: Which party promotes both?

both parties republican and democrat support moral freedoms if they didnt do you think they would be a popular choice for a presidential election

[Ravens-Grin]

Man, freshen up on your reading comprehension skills.

[chaos999]

now im just confused mind explaing what you mean ; ;

[Demosthenez]

At 6/1/05 05:11 PM, Ravens_Grin wrote: It's hypocritical in one hand to have a minimalistical view on government, but at the same time enforce one's own view of what morality is on the government. How can one person be a minimalist and try to pass legislation regarding the lives of individuals and not problems of society? Trying to enforce one's own views on another. Am I against morality? Of course not. Am I against morality enforced by the government? Shouldn't everyone?

Very well written and I agree wholeheartedly. I think Republicans are the bigger hypocrites and the Democrats are themisguided ones who are trying to make a gigantic goverment, even though there really is no true small goverment Republicans. Hell, how many new friggin Departments and shit have been created in Bush's terms? To many.

Vote Libertarian ; )

At 6/1/05 06:29 PM, Ravens_Grin wrote: Anarchists are the complete opposite of authority, so they're naturally on the left. In my opinion, they shouldn't be on the political spectrum because anarchism isn't a type of government, it's an absence of government.

You just totally contradicted yourself in two sentences. And if they are for no authority, wouldnt that be extreme right, since the right is for smaller goverment?

However, I think it is not on political spectrum, like you said.