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i dont think theres any doubt that creationism is nothing but a colourful story, evolution, the big bang all are pretty much taken as what really happened now, altho it could be wrong, but i doubt it.

mr_trivia, u said u thot god would b a mathmatical equation, that bein the grand unified theory einstein spent the remainder of his life searching for, and yes to some extent i agree with u that such a theory could go a long way to explaining life.
but would it explain our preception of good and evil, love and hate and many other feelings that are said to come from the soul that we are told god gives each human being?

God COULD be just a higher life form with a science set from walmart lol

I dunno. I believe in a combination of intelligent design and evolution. Big bang (whatever the fashionable term these days is) began by intelligent designer and evolution takes place. Remember, Genesis begins with formation of earth and logical course of events just worded simply for those who are blindly obedient.

what if the theory of the collapsing universe is correct, that there is enought dark matter to pull the universe back on itself when it expands to a certain size, causeing a "big crunch", thats would suggest that this has happened befor and that the universe is in a perpetual state of colapsing and expanding, and then were does that leave the begining?
i guess it all had to begin sumwhere tho, it cant jst always have been there, nothing is jst there it has to be created but as matter or energy to be more specific cant be created in our universe the original matter must have come from outside our universe

Religion applied is Truth denied.

At 6/5/05 04:46 PM, PhysicsMafia wrote: what if the theory of the collapsing universe is correct, that there is enought dark matter to pull the universe back on itself when it expands to a certain size, causeing a "big crunch", thats would suggest that this has happened befor and that the universe is in a perpetual state of colapsing and expanding, and then were does that leave the begining?

OMFG DID YOU NOT FUCKING READ MY POST??? THIS IS WHAT I TLAKED ABOUT NOOB!!!

i guess it all had to begin sumwhere tho, it cant jst always have been there, nothing is jst there it has to be created but as matter or energy to be more specific cant be created in our universe the original matter must have come from outside our universe

Wrong, not everything can even be created. The Law of the conservation of energy states that energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only be transferred.

At 6/5/05 06:53 PM, TwinsenDude wrote:

At 6/5/05 04:46 PM, PhysicsMafia wrote: what if the theory of the collapsing universe is correct, that there is enought dark matter to pull the universe back on itself when it expands to a certain size, causeing a "big crunch", thats would suggest that this has happened befor and that the universe is in a perpetual state of colapsing and expanding, and then were does that leave the begining?

OMFG DID YOU NOT FUCKING READ MY POST??? THIS IS WHAT I TLAKED ABOUT NOOB!!!

no i didnt read ur post, so sorry if i was steppin on your point.

i guess it all had to begin sumwhere tho, it cant jst always have been there, nothing is jst there it has to be created but as matter or energy to be more specific cant be created in our universe the original matter must have come from outside our universe

Wrong, not everything can even be created. The Law of the conservation of energy states that energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only be transferred.

if u read mine u wld see that i said energy cant be created or destroyed, as i am studying physics at uni i wld expect to know this. and that was my point, if it cant be created where did it come from, it cant hav just been there, it had to come from sumwhere else other than the universe, which i belive would leave room for god in scientific theory

At 6/4/05 12:29 PM, TwinsenDude wrote:

At 5/25/05 08:35 PM, TCStyle wrote: In religious debates, I’ve always heard the same argument; “if there is no god, how is there life�. I’m going to state a theory that I heard, believe, and have expanded on. About 3 billion years ago was the first sign of a living organism.

You realize that Earth is by no means the only planet in the solar system. You realize that our solar system is by no means the only solar system in the milky way. You realize that the milky way is by no means the only galaxy in the universe. You therefore realize that we are by no means a unique planet. Other planets could easily have had life before ours.

He doesn't mean it by that, I think he realizes that. I think he was saying for this planet. Yes, he could have used better grammar and explained it better but for common knowledged people it would make sense. That is why he wrote it the way he did, so don't go attacking someone based on the fact they didn't say "On this planet".

At 6/4/05 02:34 AM, spinners wrote: How can you believe in god with all this crap going on in the world? I totally support your theory. The whole Bible version of life starting on Earth is to farfetched. If Adam and Eve were real, then that would mean that when they had children, the children would have to have sex with each other. That's sick. And not only that, but that would mean that everyone is related. And just one more thing, If the Bible's version of life is true, and Adam and Eve were both white or hispanic or whatever, how does the human race have so many different races?

The reason for different colored skin is simple. The people living in the different parts of the world adapted to their surroundings. Black people (with all due respect, i am not a racist) developed darker skin because of the heat/sun of africa. Asian people developed to their surroundings. And of course, White people adapted to their environments.

At 6/6/05 05:19 PM, Dinodoode wrote: The reason for different colored skin is simple. The people living in the different parts of the world adapted to their surroundings. Black people (with all due respect, i am not a racist) developed darker skin because of the heat/sun of africa. Asian people developed to their surroundings. And of course, White people adapted to their environments.

No, that is completely wrong. It sounds like lamarks theory on evolution. An organism cannot change to adapt to its environment in any way. The reason for different colored skin was caused by a gene mutation, and due to that gene mutation being favorable in certain parts of the world, all organisms without the mutation died, and those with it lived and reproduced; its called natural selection.

At 6/6/05 07:28 PM, TCStyle wrote:

At 6/6/05 05:19 PM, Dinodoode wrote: The reason for different colored skin is simple. The people living in the different parts of the world adapted to their surroundings. Black people (with all due respect, i am not a racist) developed darker skin because of the heat/sun of africa. Asian people developed to their surroundings. And of course, White people adapted to their environments.

No, that is completely wrong. It sounds like lamarks theory on evolution. An organism cannot change to adapt to its environment in any way. The reason for different colored skin was caused by a gene mutation, and due to that gene mutation being favorable in certain parts of the world, all organisms without the mutation died, and those with it lived and reproduced; its called natural selection.

Sorry Dinodoode, but TCStyle is right here. Evolution is a slow process, and in the small span of time in which we humans have existed, no evolution has taken place. It hasn't been long enough.

Stop watching XMen.

At 6/6/05 05:19 PM, Dinodoode wrote:

At 6/4/05 02:34 AM, spinners wrote: How can you believe in god with all this crap going on in the world? I totally support your theory. The whole Bible version of life starting on Earth is to farfetched. If Adam and Eve were real, then that would mean that when they had children, the children would have to have sex with each other. That's sick. And not only that, but that would mean that everyone is related. And just one more thing, If the Bible's version of life is true, and Adam and Eve were both white or hispanic or whatever, how does the human race have so many different races?

Dude theres lots of incesed stories, i wonder why god thinks its better for a man to fuck his daughters than a man to fuck another man.