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Response to Do Not ... 2011-09-26 08:50:47 Reply

At 9/26/11 03:24 AM, sorohanro wrote:
At 9/25/11 09:50 PM, Tydusis wrote: It sounds like neither of the original melodies. Is this wrong?
Never thought to write your own music ?
To me, music is like love. The parallel would be:
"I have a girlfriend and I love her very much but last party I had oral sex with another girl and after I had anal sex with another. It was like neither of the original sex with my girlfriend.
Do that really count as cheating?"

On your profile is written "I am just a guy who wants to create", so, why not create ?

Well, I guess that's a good point, and an interesting analogy, but to me, the parallel would be: "I have a snowmobile, a motorcycle, and a car. I want to build a catapult of them. Similar to that TV show no one probably remembers, Junkyard Wars."
With some of the songs I'm working on, I am taking parts of songs, ripping and shredding them apart, and re-purposing the notes for roles they were never intended. For example, I might take some notes from a guitar solo and make it part of the bassline, and perhaps vice versa. I like to take a "Build it with LEGOs" approach sometimes, with notes being LEGOs. People build sculptures with LEGOs. For the moment, I am trying to basically take a hammer to some sculptures and take the broken pieces that look like they can fit together and see if they do--like a jigsaw puzzle. A sculpture of a head and a sculpture of a car could yield a sculpture of a house or tree. Now is that wrong?
I don't intend this to be a flame, but I don't see how there anything wrong with what I'm doing. It's creative interpretation of multiple pieces of work.


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Response to Do Not ... 2011-09-26 10:27:25 Reply

Go ahead and make MIDI based songs AS LONG AS YOU ALTER THEM CONSIDERABLY AS TO BE UNRECOGNIZABLE.

What you're doing is somewhere in between a MIDI rip and your own "creation". Deconstruct those MIDI's several stages more and you're okay in my books.

Otherwise, you'd just be another MIDI ripper...

And oh, as another precaution, in case it hasn't already been emphasized for you, don't ever use any copyrighted material in your songs...

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Response to Do Not ... 2011-09-26 14:53:41 Reply

At 9/26/11 10:27 AM, brokendeck wrote: Go ahead and make MIDI based songs AS LONG AS YOU ALTER THEM CONSIDERABLY AS TO BE UNRECOGNIZABLE.

What you're doing is somewhere in between a MIDI rip and your own "creation". Deconstruct those MIDI's several stages more and you're okay in my books.

Otherwise, you'd just be another MIDI ripper...

And oh, as another precaution, in case it hasn't already been emphasized for you, don't ever use any copyrighted material in your songs...

Thank you for clearing all that up for me; it all makes sense now. I have been asking all these kind of remix, cover, MIDI rip, and copyright questions lately because I wanted to clearly know where the boundaries are so that I don't go too far and get banned or worse.

One last question and I'm done: if someone uploads a sample that is copyrighted to a royalty-free site, and an artist uses it, unable to tell if it is a rip or recreation, who is in violation of copyright and, heavens forbid, who would get a notice infringement, the sampler, the artist, or both?


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Response to Do Not ... 2011-09-26 17:09:26 Reply

At 9/26/11 02:53 PM, Tydusis wrote:
One last question and I'm done: if someone uploads a sample that is copyrighted to a royalty-free site, and an artist uses it, unable to tell if it is a rip or recreation, who is in violation of copyright and, heavens forbid, who would get a notice infringement, the sampler, the artist, or both?

Just play it safe and don't use those questionable samples.

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Response to Do Not ... 2011-09-26 17:44:21 Reply

One more question: are classical pieces off-limits for re-imagining (use part of a piece by Bach and make a dance song out it, for example)?


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Response to Do Not ... 2011-09-26 17:59:02 Reply

At 9/26/11 05:44 PM, Tydusis wrote: One more question: are classical pieces off-limits for re-imagining (use part of a piece by Bach and make a dance song out it, for example)?

Firstly about your MIDI question just stick to what brokendeck told you. The main point here is trying to make sure the remixes don't sound anything like the MIDI, so if you have to change the structure around, add your own notes here and there, leave out a few parts, etc... then please do so.

MIDI rips are strictly against the rules and if you don't make the remix as different from the original/MIDI file as possible, especially when it's your first submission, then not only are you being pretty unoriginal but you may even find your track deleted and/or your account permanently banned.

To answer your new question, yes, it's perfectly alright. Just don't forget never to use any copyrighted sounds from the classical pieces in your remix!


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Response to Do Not ... 2011-09-26 18:03:23 Reply

At 9/26/11 05:44 PM, Tydusis wrote: One more question: are classical pieces off-limits for re-imagining (use part of a piece by Bach and make a dance song out it, for example)?

You can COVER a song by Bach, you just can't use part of a copyrighted recording of a song by Bach. So since Bach is public domain, you can cover him anytime you'd like, you just can't use anybody else's recording or recording of a performance of Bach in your own piece.