At 4/9/05 06:52 PM, Nonesuch wrote:
I remember having voted on a submission, and then when I tried to blow the whistle I couldn't.
It was already whistled enough to be removed from the portal (that, or it was already blammed or saved by the time you returned from voting on it to the main entry screen to hit the whistle option), most likely. Those are the only reasons you can't blow the whistle on something. Well, that and an admin making a movie unwhistleable, which doesn't happen very often.
I've never tried it the other way around before. But, in the last few days, when I *have* blown a whistle, it says something to the effect of "We assume your vote is a zero, and if it's blammed you'll get your blam point."
That's only for the malicious whistle option, ya silly. If something is malicious and you're whistling it, of course it needs to be taken off the portal. No "your whistle counts as a zero vote" message is delivered if you whistle the movie as STOLEN. Like I said, the message you get then is "PLEASE VOTE WHAT THE MOVIE DESERVES, EVEN THOUGH YOU THINK IT'S STOLEN, BECAUSE IT COULD BE RESTORED TO THE ACTUAL, ORIGINAL AUTHOR AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE." Read what Wade Fulp wrote about the Xiao Xiao movies. They were given that exact treatment, so do you really think it would have been good if hundreds of people had voted 0 on them just because the original submitter stole them? Of course not.
So, as far as I know, you can't vote AND whistle...
...but maybe it's been a while since I tried the vote-then-blow method...
Of course you can vote and whistle. I vote and then whistle EVERY time I whistle. The only downside of it is that sometimes your vote goes through and then you go back to whistle and it's too late: enough people have already whistled it and it's off the portal so you can't get in on it. No biggie.
I dunno. Anyone else have experience in this matter?
Just about anyone with moderate experience on the portal? O_o
Look, dude, I wouldn't have talked about voting AND whistling a movie if you couldn't do it. Try it next time you see a stolen movie (and make sure to NOTE THE MESSAGE about "voting what the movie deserves," not what you think the submitter deserves for stealing it).
At 4/10/05 04:30 PM, Clovis15 wrote:
You see. It was my understanding that you can get in trouble if you blow the whistle and it turned out to be legit. I assure you of this, the description only said "..." up until it passed judgement. Once it got through judgement, he changed the description to make it obvious he stole it (rather than mostly obvious, wondering if "..." was just are result of no English language skills). But by then, it was too late to hit the whistle. The obviously incriminating description only went up when it was too late to hit the whistle. I did, however, send Tom an e-mail at this point (A couple weeks back I got another flash deleted this way (Tom even responded back to me) that survived judgement when I caught someone trying to submit one of the three promotional flash cartoons Rare made staring Conker back from when the game was first released on the N64 to promote it, I'm a bit suprised I was the only one who noticed what it was... then again, the official Conker's website was visited by almost no-one when it was still up...).
You don't exactly "get in trouble." Your WHISTLE suffers. That's all.
Yes, yes, people change the authors comments (or the title) all the time. They think it's funny to do so. Maybe this guy didn't, but it sounds to me like he KNEW he'd have a better chance of getting the thing past judgement (and past whistle danger) if he kept the comments "..." until it was protected, and only THEN changed it to "I submitted this movie for someone else" or whatever bullshit he spewed.
Rest assured that the worst to happen to you if you're wrong about a whistling is that you'll lose whistle power. The WORST worst case is that you end up with a garbage whistle. That doesn't do shit to the rest of your NG account, though, so it's not like they'll delete your exp or b/p JUST for some bad whistle judgements.
In the future, there may be no such thing as "too late to hit the whistle," as it is possible a new "whistle after under judgement" option could be added. It wouldn't take the movie off the portal like the current whistle does, but it would let admins (and/or portal mods) know that a movie was believed to be stolen, or that the file had been swapped from the original protected movie to some bullshit later on or something.