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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-26 20:32:38 Reply

wow

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-26 22:25:29 Reply

i realize now none of u see the ''cheering '' and'' support'' for jeff ur all making it up so u can put ur 2 cents in if u think thats what this is all about go back to the first post and start reading not just a few iman all and ull see people like u wanting to intsigate an argument with no real meaning other than u had a bad day today and u come here on a bulletin board about a child u urself claims is shit and u start pounding away. why is that? if u belive what he did was all what u say and u dont like him why are u here? thats like saying u hate gays yet u go to gay websites and type to them. how about u go find a room that'll fit ur needs. this bulletin board is not about supporting a killer or hatting him its about wondering what sadness and years of abuse and neglect can do to ones brain it can make it snap imean who are u? u have belifes of religion yet u wish a dead child to go to hell or insult him when u know damn well he cant and wont even read this. whats that say about u? that ur better than every1 else because ur a hippocritt? or because u urself have a sick mind that u need to type insults to a dead guy for ur own viewing and entertainment. odds are ur looking for attention prolly the same attention jeff was looking for so rather do what ur doing jeff in his abused mind felt he needed to do this. and its clear what he did was not the answer to solve his problem maybe he felt he needed to do this to rid himself of the abuse and pain . and heres the proof he was wrong to do that look at u and the rest insulting him after hes dead what a sick thing man. maybe b4 u go judging another man live or dead for thier actions u should look at urself in the mirror and ask what demons are u breeding. the more i type the same shit over and over the more i see why the youth today are fucked up. how stupid can 1 be to not read b4 they type what the think was said wheb they didnt even bother reading cuz if u did ud see that i and others have typed the same thing over and over// we know he was wrong, we dont support what he did, we know he hurt and killed lives.but do u know why u insult complete strangers?and the sick part is ur insulting a dead childwhawhawha he was bullied what a pusst is what u all think eh but yet can u explain why u feel the urge than the happiness after mentally abusein someone . how about u turn and ask ur parents why u feel the need to inflict and insult a dead child.its because u know its hurts them and u enjoy it knowing someone else feels the way u did b4 u abused them, it was just in the paper that studies are showing the antidepressants are causing people to commit suicide and act out in violent ways. u all go on living ur life with the thought process that everything and every1 should think like u abd or act like . well wake up humans are not robots . every humans has flaws , and in some cases the flaws are dangerous when ignored. go watch sesame street and feel safe that every1 is perfect just like big bird. now watch as more flood in typing the same shit without reading b4 hand.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-26 22:26:59 Reply

At 3/26/05 08:26 PM, Andy374 wrote: First off nobody knows that

Well Im sure close friends and family might have knew


You could really go for a chocolate chip cookie right about now...

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-26 22:30:49 Reply

I saw it, at first i didn't beleve Wade BUT i read alot of reviews and then the article. the movie wasn't sick or good, but the fact that he did it makes it sick. even now i can't say that i fullt beleve it...

what i think is that he first made the flash, as one way to act out that he felt like doing, and then simply that wasnt enught for him so he killed 10 people and then himself.
and now that it has happened ppl will blame games and violent movies again ang nothing will happen, and then someone else will dot he same.

There will allways be stupid insame people bilded by hate and wothout common sense, that will never change.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-26 22:44:19 Reply

This Is real Serious Stuff. He was a victim of the world and know hes a loner to it. The Fate of those people where for some reason but i dont cheer on his actions. I hate what he did to those incoient people. Fate chose them as victims. jeff was no victim the day he did this. He had planned everything from the start. If the students would of known they could of been spared.NO ONE DESERVES TO DIE TILL PROVEN GUILTY. HE WAS GUILTY

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-26 22:47:59 Reply

At 3/26/05 08:26 PM, Andy374 wrote: I cant believe it! i read a reply that some guy worte cheering on Jeff, saying he was the victim and who he killed had it coming. First off nobodyknow

u say we dont know what he was thinking but yet u know for sure he was laughing amazing

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-26 23:01:29 Reply

and with that there will always be people who judge harras abd bully people like that than wonder why he snapped. would any of u tease a rabid dog than wonder why he bit u?. ur all amazing we know who killed who. but the next big question is why? sometimes its so beyond our tiny brains and we'll never know untill 1 day u had enough. so i guess u should keep bulling and tourturing lil minds im sure it dosent hurt them .if what i just typed is true and it dosent bother no1 than why do people bully, harras and tease to begin with?. for the reaction ogggg what a wbb we weave and sometimes that action is alil more than u expected.check yourself cuz if u ever teased any1 or bullied than ur part of the problem 2 ,that explains why u cant except that ur actions effect others due to being in denile, and some know what thier doing and still refuse to stop. if u fuck with someone long enough ur gonna get a life altering surprise so check urself b4 someone else does. this world was not man made u cant go around thinking u know whats up and u got it all figured outand every1 should act and do as u do.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-26 23:10:52 Reply

At 3/26/05 10:44 PM, TheBombMaker wrote: This Is real Serious Stuff. He was a victim of the worldknown they could of been spared.NO ONE DESERVES TO DIE TILL PROVEN GUILTY. HE WAS GUILTY

go tell that to bush him and his lil killing wars

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-26 23:14:24 Reply

i take that back u cant tell bush hes guilty of killing innocent lives because u elected him lol and with that ur guilty of supporting akiller like ur president

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-26 23:42:37 Reply

omg stupid people that say they have rights piss me off, you have shyt, gov. just tells you you have free dom, in reality you can't even shyt in the park, and you can express all you want, but if yous ay somthing agains the gov. people will hate you, personaly i do say that the gov. is stupid, but I'm not anarchy, but people that say patriotic shyt piss me off, look how this country of the united states is, all the states are separate, and have diffrences, it's like they are different countries, or i hat how amaricnas are just going to wear american flag undear wear is that respect, or patriotism?? no.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-26 23:55:24 Reply

At 3/26/05 10:47 PM, RestlessMind wrote:
u say we dont know what he was thinking but yet u know for sure he was laughing amazing

R u a idoit? i put in a quote "true" he was laughing watching the kids die it was in the news, it was what all the survivors siad... dumass

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 00:06:28 Reply

At 3/26/05 11:55 PM, Andy374 wrote:
At 3/26/05 10:47 PM, RestlessMind wrote:
u say we dont know what he was thinking but yet u know for sure he was laughing amazing
R u a idoit? i put in a quote "true" he was laughing watching the kids die it was in the news, it was what all the survivors siad... dumass

if i did this i would probly be laugh in the process. I mean come on it would be funny you are punnishing the people you hate. These so people who thought of themselves as big are now so weak and puny. it would seem funny to you.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 00:12:27 Reply

omg that kid must've had serious problems

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 00:43:05 Reply

ha he's a John Lennon fan, that'd be really funny if they tried to tie his death to the kind of music he listned to. also from reading his reviews, he acutly sounds like a smart kid, besides one or two ignorant statments. its a shame that sometimes some of the smartist people are so messed up on the inside

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 01:29:43 Reply

I'm Sorry But this should not be posted on the front!
I have gone through Livecorspe and others and this is beyond what newgrounds is we do not need to support these type of press

I think newgrounds derserves better than this!

God Bless

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 01:38:52 Reply

At 3/25/05 12:24 AM, KupaMan wrote:
At 3/25/05 12:07 AM, -Mj wrote:
. at first
glance, it appears to be a
pointless and violent short
with not too shabby fbf
animation, but after realizing
who has made it, it makes you
ponder whether or not this was
his way of expression what he
was going to do.
Shut the hell up, you over thinking poetic bastard catholic. What's with the spacing? And, besides, only 2 kids out of the thousands of contributors to NG did something they depicted in their flash. Does this mean everyone's like that?

No Not Everyone is that way but there is always the one and that one is the one to be afraid of. But that doesnt mean punish everyone otherwise it will lead to more problems


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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 01:47:08 Reply

At 3/25/05 05:12 AM, ConanEdogawa wrote: Im having trouble logging on, i was going to write this in the reviews, but this is a more appropriate place for it.
When i was in elementary school... I was beat up by high school kids i developed a bit of a superiority complex against my peers. I still look at some of them,( though i've moved to college, i have a few friends in high school, so i still know how it is), and they actually make me pity them. I seperated myself from the high school society, and i got a unique perspective on them. I see football players who drink and party, I see gorgeous girls who go out with the trashiest people, becuase they are considered cool. I see loose girls who sleep around and are proud of it and an "In-Society" which demands it, i've seen a girl who i thought of as a friend get pregnant and hang herself(i didnt see the actual hanging) because her parents came down so hard on her, i belive it could had been handled better, but i dont blame the parents too bad. I've seen a football player call a cheerleader "Slut-Bucket", and later in the week she was hit by a train and died, i then found out she went to a church nearby the school, and was not a "Slut-Bucket". Why, oh why, can't being a non-conformist ever be a good thing? Why cannot people see that doing drugs leads to failure, addiction, and death? Why can't high schoolers see that living a active sex life will make you cool, but most likely lead you forced into a dead-end job before you finish college, just so you can take care of a baby. Why do they punish those who do well by judging them as nerds. But it makes one wonder, what challenges did THEY have to go through to reach where they are today? DId they have to go through the challenges Jeff Weise had to? Did thoughts of rampage invade THEIR minds? No body really knows that answer. As previously stated, ive developed a superiority complex, and was not very kind to many people. I have few friends, but they are very dear to me, people i would trust with everything i am. I think, in retrospect, that i handled things as best i could. My moral is this, you who partake in such actions, analyze your own life and ask, If the School Systems could teach love along side history, maybe we wouldnt have ohter Jeff Weises and Columbines.

I agree fully today to many people try to live a lie I have found from the military that if you are who YOU want to be allot of stress is released we all have are secrets but I still think that it all comes down to how you were raised. I was raised in a loving family but through the milkitary I have seen the hard streets of east st louis to the royal areas of Monument colorado but I still have who I am... a mixture of my parents I love this last part If the School Systems could teach love along side history, maybe we wouldnt have ohter Jeff Weises and Columbines.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 01:49:15 Reply

At 3/25/05 04:12 PM, Tremour wrote: My only problem with the flash being on the front page is the type of reviewers it's attracting.

:Just saying, maybe a good idea would be to close off the ability to review it altogether. After all, the purpose of reviewing is to help the author improve his work. Weise isn't going to need that now, is he ?

Locking the thread would be a good Idea because he wont be using it anyway unless he can bypass hell someway but its not that cold yet


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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 02:26:07 Reply

Let's play another fun guessing game!!!

At 3/25/05 04:12 PM, Lindstrom wrote: Well, the son of a bitch must have had his reasons for blasting mother fuckers to their graves. What reasons? Who knows. All we know is that instead of popping another Prozac he pop-pop-popped people with his hand gun back to where they came from. Conclusion? I guess he had a bad day or something, like a really bad groin itch... lol

I'm not gonna sit around and pretend I give a damn about shit like this. People die every single fuckin' day from various reasons spanning from getting your head shot off by a US soldier in Iraq to dying from ebola in Africa... I'm not gonna pretend I care, 'cause I don't. It's tragic for sure, but I just don't care... sorry. So much shit going on in the world, so little time to give a damn...

This little shock value cutie is...

A.) Only pretending he feels this way to look "cool."
B.) Competing with Eminem.
C.) In need of psychological help.
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Correct answer is D.) All of the above.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 03:23:04 Reply

At 3/26/05 12:57 PM, hofi8 wrote: Okay I want to say that most of Americans are faktards and their life is based on TV, and Media, think about it do you acctuly care for all does people?? Did it make your life different?? I don't think so it might of changed about 20 peoples lifes, but in life there is a thing thats called shit happens alot, and you can't do nothing about it, it wans't that kids fault that people dissliked him for whom he is, somtimes people get out of control, you just got to get on with your lfie, the sadnes would somtimes go weaker and weaker, Im not saying that its good taht does people died and if I had one wish I would bring them all to life, but you can't judge that kid if you don't know him, he just amde a mistake in his life, oly it was a big one, but i bet most of you people never amde an mistake.

This affects anyone who goes to school & their families. It can also be prevented. Shut up?

At 3/26/05 11:42 PM, hofi8 wrote: omg stupid people that say they have rights piss me off, you have shyt, gov. just tells you you have free dom, in reality you can't even shyt in the park, and you can express all you want, but if yous ay somthing agains the gov. people will hate you, personaly i do say that the gov. is stupid, but I'm not anarchy, but people that say patriotic shyt piss me off, look how this country of the united states is, all the states are separate, and have diffrences, it's like they are different countries, or i hat how amaricnas are just going to wear american flag undear wear is that respect, or patriotism?? no.

I have read all the garbage you are spewing out & you have a lot of learning to do, baby anarchist.

For one that's called FEDERALISM. Go read the US Constitution or something. It's the backbone of our government & also the oldest codified written national constitution still in in effect today because it's that damn good. Thomas Jefferson is a genius. It will blow you away.

For two you're exercising rights you take for granted right now. In some countries you probably couldn't use the internet to write this because that's not allowed & if you expressed this in public they'd probably cut out your tongue & toss you in a jail cell & let you eat rat meat for the rest of your life.

For three taking a shit in the park is against the law for good reason. Besides the fact that it's just fucking weird, do you think people want to take their kids to play or their dog for a walk or go running or biking there & see piles of human excrement all over? Once you even complained that you weren't truly free because you don't have the right to just kill people whenever you see fit. NEWS FLASH! Freedom isn't about allowing you to infringe upon the rights of others. A society needs laws to ensure peace & order. Duh.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 04:08:31 Reply

I saw the movie, thought it was ok. But I dont care about the news coverage.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 04:38:07 Reply

I like the clown one man that clown was weird he kinda freaked me out ok so does anyone else think the clown made him do it

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 05:44:18 Reply

Oh why do I feel so ill sympathetic for this guy... Im so used to these things now... T.V. makes it all look like little deal. Oh.. er.. school gets shot up by Jeff Weise... Oh oh whats this another 9-11 tribute!? oh i gotta see this! Oh the days of columbine were great for me, i remember the threats and the pull-string-fireworks i brought in and the dirty looks when i got flame to drop off the blackened strings and the dean threatening to expel me and Mr Smith having that long talk with the class about school shootings as he glared at me while talking about how upset he would be if one of his three attending kids got hurt. I dont think its so bad. You dont know how many people go day to day thinking about killing people. I know for a fact at least one person wants me dead dayly just because of how ugly my face is. Or maybe its just the depressive shit talking people i hang out with that makes me so paranoid. I think its okay... i mean one kid got to kill alot of people who he didnt like. You all see it like hes awful, and those kid probably didnt do a thing to provoke it. well the way i see it. He isnt suffering anymore. The victims who died arent suffering anymore. and the wounded ones have a new-found respect for the common depressive lowlife. Im so happy for him. He doesnt feel bad at all now. And somehow i think the victims understand... its ok, it'll be ok. There will always be a certain admiration for someone who will kill himself for what he believes. This kind of killing is equivilant to the 9-11 killings but on a smaller scale. Both of the "terrorists" believed what they were doing was right. Who am i to say they were wrong. I say id have to be in their shoes to really know. This is a great coming-of-age leaning experience for everyone. whats worse... tortured for 13 "learning years" of your life by bullys, or a quick frightening death by the bullet? Deaths are quick and unexpected, while the constant tease from jerks is always there. People think and let things get to them... to the point where they cant sleep at night (hey its 4:42 am now). Its easy to just say "oh hes a puss and cant deal with a little tease" but you dont know what goes on in the mind of the victims. We end up torturing ourselves into thinking death would be a better way out of a bad situation. Sad but true ... what can we do.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 06:37:56 Reply

At 3/25/05 04:27 PM, mackan_ wrote:
you're a stupid fucking moron and you're 15 years old, you don't KNOW anything, you THINK you know everything...

Who the fuck are you to judge that?? Who decides if he knows a lot or not??
what he said is true. WE are controlled since we are lil babies. we are so used to live in this way that we don't even notice, that's the beauty of it.

Example: Saudi Arabia, Afeghanistan. there are the "terrorists" groups, but who called them terrorists, US, for them, we are the ones who are oprresing them, and in a way we are...

the "Civilized" world looks down on everything that isn't like us, since the dawn of man that Europe and the Us as discriminated others nations, 1st africa, then asia, now the midle-east. it was us that started this war(Iraq)

Sure they attacked USA, but U GUYS DROVE THE WORLD INTO WAR!!, look what happened in Spain. they didn't wanted to go to Iraq.

Violence, makes violence. Iraq will never be free, cause US and the others countries will not allow, they have too much petrol and stuff

Don't say we don't know nothing, because we are the future, and some of us are trying to make a difference.

What have u done to change thins?? NOTHING. because you think its pointless. and you are afraid to get arrested.

See the sistem controls us, and the more tech we use, the better can they control us.

(sorry if i got a lil of the subject.)

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 08:23:27 Reply

At 3/27/05 04:38 AM, Gheyz0r wrote: I like the clown one man that clown was weird he kinda freaked me out ok so does anyone else think the clown made him do it

lol he created the clown... how could it make him do it...|

annyways the movies have nothijng to do with it

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 10:12:34 Reply

At 3/27/05 12:43 AM, Grecoism wrote:

its a shame that sometimes some of the smartist people are so messed up on the inside

i found this amusing. i shouldn't have opened this topic, because i know i would have to say something, lol. just to let you know, the smartest people in the world are the most capable of going insane. they know too much of the truth to bask in the bliss of ignorance.

Steering back onto this little thing. I find it funny how people are judging him now and blaming this, that and the other thing. there's this thing called RESPONSIBILITY. if you do something, you don't push the blame off on someone else or an inanimate object. if you do something, you are the sole blame for that action. i'm pretty sure he realized that and didn't stick around to receive consequence from a third party.

As for putting this on the site, i think it was a good idea. not to get attention, not to pull the media here, not for that database thing tom was talking about, but for a peek into this guy's mind. while it's only a vague reference, sometimes it's good to see through the eyes of the ones you fear.

As for taking it off the front page, i think it should stay until people are disinterested in it. i always look for things that will catch my attention on the front page, and this is no exception. Respect for the dead? yeah, they died and all, but i don't see where respect is deserved. you can miss somebody when they die, but i'm pretty sure i'm not gonna get any respect when a crackhead shoots me in the face for five dollars. people only want to give the dead respect when they're on tv, and i think that's disgusting, petty, and pathetic.

anyway, i know my opinion means like jack shit on here, and i've only posted like what, twice on this message board? i just wanted to say something, because of all these overhyped religious nuts, hate-mongers, hypocrites, and retards getting crazy because an ex-killer made flash animations. it just shows that even in times where we need to come together, we're still poking out each others' eyes with our blaming pointed fingers.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 10:32:59 Reply

I am not saying I support what he did, in fact I think taking your anger out on others is a very bad thing. I hate the fact that art will always immitate life, but I think his parents should've paid more attention to him rather than say "oh it's just a phase." That's every parent's excuse for child that is acting up. My parents will always ask if anything is wrong and they will always pry it out of me (they're Cuban, they're good at these things.) They would always listen when I have something to say and they always respect my opinions. I think that's what Jeff's parents should've done. I think he was ignored and people, and I mean everyone hates being ignored. The way I see it, it was far from a cry for help, but he got all the attention he wanted. Instead of killing people to get attention, he should've been able to vent his anger through writing and art. I don't support what he did and what he did was very wrong.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 11:34:22 Reply

As long as we're talking about it and trying to make sense of a tragedy, I think it will help us in the future on how to prevent something like this from ever happening. I agree with most posts, but someone saying that thst they support the gunman, I think that is unusual, but everyone is entitiled to their own opinion after all. It is a free country, or so we like to believe. That's my 2 cents.

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 12:27:37 Reply

Well, he was a neo nazi, that kinda points that he was just sick in the head to join! People who kill other people in murder are crazy to begin with! Dosent matter what you see on T.V, if the person couldent tell the difference between a production on T.V. and actually killing someone, then they're a nuthouse. But anyways, if he was real dark in school all the time, then that was a cry for help! That just shows what a bunch of shitheads people are!!! If you play Halo and shooters, and M rated games, It dosent mean anything! It all depends on how the person feels and acts!

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Response to Jeff Weise's Flash 2005-03-27 12:33:12 Reply

damn October 2, 2004
Reviewed by: YoinK_VineS

Overall Score: 10
This is a very well animated flash movie with a lot of violence. this was insane, that guy killed almost everybody around even the kkk dude.

Graphics: 10 Sound: 8 Interactivity: 0 Style: 9 Violence: 10 Humor: 8

Regret's response:
I'm a big fan of overkill.

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lol