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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:26 PM Reply

At 3/23/05 04:24 PM, JustLikeFrank wrote: Isnt there a way you can use sessions so that when the movie window is opened a session var is set with the current time, then on the vote page it compares the time the var was set to the current time. That could be used for when people deposit as well, to see if people just vote on 5 movies quickly to get the experience

I believe this is only possible if both windows are coming from the same domain. However, since the content window is coming from a different domain (the .swf file is on another domain), variables like this can't be shared.


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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:31 PM Reply

At 3/23/05 03:54 PM, TheShrike wrote: It needs a solution.

If you got on AIM, I could work this through with you.

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:33 PM Reply

At 3/23/05 04:32 PM, Lilj wrote: I dont think you should put time limits on everything because when there are those annoying songs with gay porn and tubgirl, you shouldnt make us wait 15-30 seconds to blam that.

If it's annoying, close the window, and wait for the vote bar appear.


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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:34 PM Reply

ah forgot about them being on ungrounded.net, ive just read some more of the comments and the one about hiding the details sounds good. It would change the way the portal works but maybe having the judgement stage as anonymous and then have a second stage where you can report it as stolen. Not the greatest idea, but hiding the details should be thought about.

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:36 PM Reply

At 3/23/05 04:23 PM, WadeFulp wrote: How am I supposed to react to that? You're telling me I'm a little late? If you weren't trying to be a smart ass, you sure came across that way.

You're in a position of authority. Why should I be coming off as a smart ass to you, especially considering that if I were it could be construed as mocking the administration which is a ban worthy offense. My sign up date should have been adequate indication that I'm not like all the rest of the ungrateful n00bs.

For the record I was going to make a post about this feature immediately upon it's release, but I was told to wait to see if any problems developed.

Again, I said fine. That's ok. Thank you for clearing that up.

Your statement is kinda like "Thanks for the old news dummy! There are aleady threads about this, so why are you making another one? But thanks anyway, dummy."

I apologize for it coming across as such. If you care to remember, I will never mock you without making it blatantly obvious, not that I see that ever being a problem in the future.

So in case it wasn't blatantly obvious, Thanks a lot Wade and James. I look forward to this addition helping my flash pass in the coming years.

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:41 PM Reply

I use a mac, and the bar didn't appera even after 2 minutes of waiting on a 1 KB movie. It never shows up anymore for me. WAHHH! NO MORE BLAM/SAVE POINTS! *cries*

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:42 PM Reply

Have you thought about hiding the author's name so at least people will watch the flash for long enough to get an indication?

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:43 PM Reply

^^ Greatest Idea ever,
but what about stolen movies?

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:44 PM Reply

This has probobly got the best solution for the blamming problem. Great idea.

But ....

I can see someone with a slow internet have an error and the bar would not appear at all, or would take a long time to appear.

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:46 PM Reply

I have a fast internet and it doesn't appear. (But I am using a mac, if that makes any difference.)

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:47 PM Reply

At 3/23/05 04:36 PM, FatherVenom wrote: I apologize for it coming across as such. If you care to remember, I will never mock you without making it blatantly obvious, not that I see that ever being a problem in the future.

It's okay, it can be hard to read people's emotions or expressions over the web.


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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:48 PM Reply

At 3/23/05 03:19 PM, WadeFulp wrote: We have decided to experiment with a timer on the vote bar for users who watch entries that are "Under Judgment."...

I think this is an excellent idea. A great way to help good movies be protected and shitty movies be blammed.

In layman's terms, get more accurate votes.


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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:50 PM Reply

What about my problem?

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:51 PM Reply

Well, I think j00bie certainly showed NG here... good implementation though, Wade. All the under judgement movies i've seen today have been under 100k or so, so I haven't had a chance to see it working, but I'm sure it'll really help clear out all those buggers who vote on batting average and authorage.

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 04:58 PM Reply

At 3/23/05 04:43 PM, Glaiel_Gamer wrote: ^^ Greatest Idea ever,
but what about stolen movies?

True that would be one problem. But the name would appear after judgement so people could then see who made it and maybe keep the flagging option until it's off the Most Recent Top 50

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:02 PM Reply

Wow, I was actually thinking of suggesting something like that a while ago, but never got around to it. I am actually really sick of crap movies getting top spots just because the preloader looks really snappy, or good movies getting crap scores because 80% of people who vote for under judgement movies only watch the first few seconds. Best new addition to Newgrounds yet, in my opinion.

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:05 PM Reply

This is something I've been talking about in Newgrounds Evolution topic, now some 'fair' voting can come into play. Thanks Wade.

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:13 PM Reply

Yes, another step towards equalizing the portal. I hate it when I look at something, its crud, and then it passes, because a person sees who the author is. I sure hope that this is only the first step, I do not know what others steps should be taken, but I am sure there are some. I do have to say that the majority of flashes being submitted are improving. Except for the ones that are meant to be crap, or the ones submitted by people who do not understand that sound is very important, especially when you have bad graphics.
Let us rejoice over this wonderful occasion. A toast, to those who are making the portal more fair, as well as to all the inspiring animators out there.

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:13 PM Reply

Its a good very good idea. Good job Wade.


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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:14 PM Reply

Very Great Stuff^^ *newground rulez*

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:16 PM Reply

At 3/23/05 03:19 PM, WadeFulp wrote: We have decided to experiment with a timer on the vote bar for users who watch entries that are "Under Judgment." Basically it delays the vote bar from appearing for a certain amount of time based on the size of the entry. So a 5MB entry would result in the vote bar being hidden for about 50 seconds. If the entry is 10k, the vote bar will appear almost instantly after the movie/game window is launched. We may play around and adjust the length of time the vote bar is delayed.

We award BLAM and SAVE points as a reward for taking the time to wade (har har) through all the new entries that flood into the Flash Portal on a daily basis. We want people to take their time and vote fairly.

Thats a good idea. keep people from being a holes and blaming the possible next best thing.


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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:20 PM Reply

my problem?

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:21 PM Reply

At 3/23/05 04:50 PM, Glaiel_Gamer wrote: What about my problem?

If you read a little, you will see that Liljim is well aware of the problem already, and is trying to find a way to fix it. :)

Patience, young grasshoppah.

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:23 PM Reply

Maybe you should have the author's name and information hidden while the movie/game is under judgement so people can't see who it is and won't vote because of the person who submitted it.


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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:24 PM Reply

Maus, since you're also a Mac user and may have been experiencing the same problem, try now and see how you get on.

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:25 PM Reply

At 3/23/05 05:23 PM, That-Is-Bull wrote: Maybe you should have the author's name and information hidden while the movie/game is under judgement so people can't see who it is and won't vote because of the person who submitted it.

This hasn't been suggested once, replied to, then suggested again a few times since in this thread alone....

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:30 PM Reply

At 3/23/05 05:25 PM, liljim wrote: This hasn't been suggested once, replied to, then suggested again a few times since in this thread alone....

Sorry, I'm lazy as hell.


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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:32 PM Reply

Hmm..I had an idea, but I am not quite sure you can even do this:
Is there a way, possibly, that the timer would start after the movie is loaded? Like say there is a large submission, but people see like a name that they hate, even though the movie might be good. They could possibly vote 0 on it before the movie is loaded, especially with slow connections, even with a 50 second wait. So if it could be done, this timer starts AFTER the movie is fully loaded, not just after you click "watch this movie". I'm not really sure if there is a way to do this, but just an idea.

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:32 PM Reply

I'd test it now, but nothing is under judgement.

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Response to Under Judgment Voting Mar. 23rd, 2005 @ 05:33 PM Reply

Denvish claimed that Firewalls and Pop-up blockers can effect it from loading. <>
Could that be a bad thing for my Kerio? I'm going to try voting in IE.