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I have a new Gardevoir and I already figured out it's final moveset:

Gardevoir -Naive Nature -Expert Belt
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Calm Mind/Shadow Ball

Tell me which should I get rid of, Calm Mind or Shadow Ball. Or tell me other
moves I should let it learn.


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Preparing for PtHGSS when I eventually get it (my b-day is in 1 1/2 months, so I might have a shot of getting Pt then, at least), I built a test team on Shoddy; I haven't broken it out yet, and figured I'd bring it up here first. Keep in mind, I'm the unconventional type. I'd like suggestions on the order, since I'm still new to the 'lead' concept.

Claydol (Shiny)
Bold / 252 Def / 252 SpD / 4 SpA
@Light Clay

Light Screen
Reflect
Stealth Rock
Earth Power

With both defenses at 339, this becomes one bulky little bastard, perfect for setting up defensive measures early on. Can't touch Levitators/Flyers, but it ain't meant to have to.

Machamp (Shiny)
Adamant / 252 ATK / 68 Def / 188 SpD / No Guard
@Leftovers

Bulk Up
Dynamicpunch
Stone Edge
Payback

Been wanting to utilize No Guard Machamp for some time now; it'll be fun to have Dynamicpunch actually hit. :P

Typhlosion
Modest / 4 HP / 252 Spe / 252 SpA
@Choice Scarf

Eruption
HP Grass
Focus Blast
Lava Plume

Saw this variant on Serebii, and it looked awesome. Nice to have a Pokemon who can actually make use of Eruption at full power - even those who resist it oughtta take a giant dent. I went LP over Flamethrower for the added Burn chance when necessary.

Sceptile
Modest / 12 HP / 252 Spe / 244 SpA
@Petaya Berry

Substitute
Endeavor
Energy Ball
Dragon Pulse

One of the other Typhlosion variants showcased on Serebii inspired me to make a version for one of my personal favorites. After Overgrow and the Petaya both kick in, Energy Ball should be scary enough. Endeavor was an idea to make giant special walls more manageable.

Tentacruel (Shiny)
Timid / 252 Spe / 4 SpA / 252 SpD / Clear Body
@Black Sludge

Rapid Spin
Toxic Spikes
Surf
Ice Beam

Removes entry hazards, then goes & lays some, all while being able to take a few hits & dish 'em back out.

Miltank
Jolly / 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe / Scrappy
@.........not sure on the item yet........

Milk Drink
Heal Bell
Body Slam
Earthquake

A horribly underused choice that pretty much does everything; hopefully HGSS will remind everyone else of its worth on a team - esp. with the addition of Scrappy. Chose Body Slam over Return for paralysis, which helps keep it around longer.

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Suggestions welcome here, since I'm still a noob to this gen's scene.

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For Claydol, if you want to to be bulky, you gotta max out that low base HP before anything. Same goes with Tentacruel.

For Sceptile... I guess it's a nice idea to use Endeavor to deal with things like Blissey, but if you're running a SubPetaya set, it might seem like a better idea to just use another move for more coverage, I'd recommend Hidden Power Fire.

For Tentacruel, if you want to use him as a tank that does the job of laying entry hazards, why are you worried so much about its Speed? It isn't a sweeper. Tentacruel's base stat for HP is lower than his Special Defense base stat, so if you want to take as many Special hits as possible, max his HP, then add some EVs on Special Defense. Remove the 252 EVs from Speed and put them in HP. I also recommend you put in some EVs in Defense, because it's really weak, and use a Bold or a Calm nature.

Give Miltank Leftovers.


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For those of you that are interested, the Shaymin Wifi Event has started.

I got mine yesterday... might train it up, might not... I'm undecided as of yet, and it kinda depends on what kind of IVs it has, which I haven't checked yet.

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At 9/29/09 07:48 PM, verycoolguy wrote: For Claydol, if you want to to be bulky, you gotta max out that low base HP before anything.

Alrighty, I've adjusted it to:

252 HP / 132 Def / 128 SpD

So it's still almost even on both defensive ends, but with maxed HP.

For Sceptile... I guess it's a nice idea to use Endeavor to deal with things like Blissey, but if you're running a SubPetaya set, it might seem like a better idea to just use another move for more coverage, I'd recommend Hidden Power Fire.

I'll think about it, but I want to give the Endeavor idea a test drive first.

For Tentacruel, if you want to use him as a tank that does the job of laying entry hazards, why are you worried so much about its Speed? It isn't a sweeper. Tentacruel's base stat for HP is lower than his Special Defense base stat, so if you want to take as many Special hits as possible, max his HP, then add some EVs on Special Defense. Remove the 252 EVs from Speed and put them in HP. I also recommend you put in some EVs in Defense, because it's really weak, and use a Bold or a Calm nature.

Actually, I meant more that it CAN take hits if it needs to, not so much being made specifically to do it. It's supposed to be a fast Rapid Spinner that just happens to be able to throw down its own set of hazards when the moment arises & be able to take the occasional hit.

However, with that said, I think I'll take the EVs out of Special Defense & stick em in Defense instead.

Give Miltank Leftovers.

Uh, Item Clause - Machamp has em already, and I'm quite happy keeping those on him.

I'm starting to debate Miltank anyway; I just wanted an excuse to use it, and I didn't want a damn Blissey - way too many of those already.

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At 10/1/09 07:12 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote: For those of you that are interested, the Shaymin Wifi Event has started.

I got mine yesterday... might train it up, might not... I'm undecided as of yet, and it kinda depends on what kind of IVs it has, which I haven't checked yet.

I just got mine too. Even though 99% of us will never use our ubers, it's still really cool that Nintendo is finally giving away all the really good event items.

twiddles thumbs waiting for azure flute giveaway

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The Speed on Tentacruel is absolutely useless. If you just waste your EVs in Speed instead of using them on defensive stats, Tentacruel won't live long enough to throw in a second layer of Toxic Spikes, or maybe even a first layer.


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At 10/1/09 05:59 PM, Fox wrote: I just got mine too. Even though 99% of us will never use our ubers, it's still really cool that Nintendo is finally giving away all the really good event items.

Yeah, they're nice to show off to friends who don't have them >:)


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Me too...

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At 10/1/09 05:59 PM, Fox wrote:
I just got mine too. Even though 99% of us will never use our ubers, it's still really cool that Nintendo is finally giving away all the really good event items.

Ubers are always awesome to have as show-offs. 'Hey check out my shiny Adamant Kyrogue!' 'Wow billy!' Jokes aside I don't think I ever mentioned that I started a game once and named everything after my favourite band System of a Down.
The main character was called 'Soad' and my *adamant* Starly was named 'P.L.U.C.K' while my electric dog thing was called 'Roulette'. I though it was neat anyway :(

What are these chemicals in my head, that tell me I should be dead?
Cause no-one's this lucky not even the man, who won the lottery again and again.

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At 10/2/09 12:07 AM, Aci6 wrote: Jokes aside I don't think I ever mentioned that I started a game once and named everything after my favourite band System of a Down.
The main character was called 'Soad' and my *adamant* Starly was named 'P.L.U.C.K' while my electric dog thing was called 'Roulette'. I though it was neat anyway :(

That sounds like fun, but I would think something TOO gimmicky like that would get old quick. Well, for me, anyway.

I've actually thought of putting together a different kind of gimmick team, like my "turtle team" - Venusaur, Blastoise, Lapras, Shuckle, Torkoal, and Torterra. It would be fun to use a team like this, but due to the inevitability of getting raped in any standard battle, they would only be used in-game.


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At 10/1/09 08:02 PM, verycoolguy wrote: The Speed on Tentacruel is absolutely useless. If you just waste your EVs in Speed instead of using them on defensive stats, Tentacruel won't live long enough to throw in a second layer of Toxic Spikes, or maybe even a first layer.

Ok, took the advice & stuck Speed EVs in HP.

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Ahem, I slightly screwed up that post........I meant to say I took out all of the Speed EVs & stuck them in HP.

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WWHHHAAAATTT????? What could I possibly be doing here?????

Posting. For once. Ever.

Haven't played Pokemon games for a while, hopefully Explorers of the Sky will be good.
It comes out on Oct. 12 for the U.S. members of the crew. Cartoon Network is also airing the Pokemon Explorers of the Sky Special on Friday night around 7:00 i think (Eastern Standard Time) and a DVD is being given out if you preorder the game.

I'm gonna get a guide for the game(if there is one) and go for Riolu as myself, and Pikachu as my partner. Frankly, if Cubone was in the game, that's who I'd go for. Cubone and Pikachu= kickass.

I'll post later today to make up for all the time I've been gone.


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Taken from Bulbanews today regarding the 2010 Pokemon video game world championships:

Another update of the World Championships site features some of the rules of the Video Game World Championships. Among these is the notable new rule regarding legendary Pokémon. It is now confirmed that not all legendary Pokémon will be allowed to enter, with Pokémon that can only be obtained from events being ineligible. These are Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys (all Formes), Phione (an offspring of an event-only Pokémon), Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin (both Formes) and Arceus (all types). The Pokémon legendary Pokémon no longer banned are Mewtwo, Ho-Oh, Lugia, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina (both Formes). Of these Pokémon, only two at most may be used in the same team.

What the HELL just happened? I think the entire metagame just turned upside-down.


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O_O

Well, on the upside, only two out of those per team.........on the downside, they're usable period........... >_< WTF!?!?!?!?!?

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At 10/9/09 06:58 PM, Assi9 wrote: O_O

^This.

This will completely ruin the metagame, like you said Fox. I have no idea what the organisers were thinking with that one. Also, it's going to be much more boring, since we all know that everyone's going to be packing two Ubers now, and most likely a Blissey to deal with the Special attack threat posed by these.

Seriously, if you're going to allow some Ubers, it might as well be all of them, at least then there would be some variety.

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At 10/9/09 05:30 PM, Fox wrote: Mewtwo, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia allowed

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Kyogre's Water Spout anyone? ...Not only are the offensive stats of these Pokemon are too good, but all of them, can be walls...


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How can they be legendary if there's like 50 of em....

So, the metagame sucks, a team without a legendary or uber is now rarer than finding 10 shinies in a row without poke'radar or hacks, and the people who thought the thing up are jerks.

In other news, I saw the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of the Sky special last night on Cartoon Network, and it was worse than the normal series.

Chimchar was going through puberty, which you can tell from his voice, Piplup sound like he was kicked in the crotch, and no joke here, but I think that Grovyle was actually voiced by the person who was Vegeta in Dragonball Z. "Look out Piplup! Dusknoir's power level is over 40!!!!"(Dusknoir is actually level 45 when you fight him.)

On an unrelated note, I just got Scribblenauts yesterday, and it's really good. If you don't have it, GET IT.

Well, that's it. Except that Explorers of the sky comes out in America this week. YAY.


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At 10/6/09 12:35 AM, Fox wrote:
At 10/2/09 12:07 AM, Aci6 wrote: Jokes aside I don't think I ever mentioned that I started a game once and named everything after my favourite band System of a Down.
The main character was called 'Soad' and my *adamant* Starly was named 'P.L.U.C.K' while my electric dog thing was called 'Roulette'. I though it was neat anyway :(
That sounds like fun, but I would think something TOO gimmicky like that would get old quick. Well, for me, anyway.

I just like nick naming my pokemon and thought it was a fun idea. The tricky yet best part was naming them after the songs - which reminds me that I had a Rapidash (sic) named 'Snowblind' :P

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Just now I encountered a shiny Lairon, but unfortunately that asswipe used roar. Although I didn't save the game but I don't think it would've matter anyway, oh well.

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At 10/12/09 12:54 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Just now I encountered a shiny Lairon, but unfortunately that asswipe used roar.

Quick Balls are your friend.

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Once I get the HGSS moves into Shoddy, I'm going to switch the Miltank to a Poke I've REALLY wanted in there since its return announcement - ExtremeSpeed Dragonite.

Hmmmm.......if they're really going to go through with this 'some Ubers allowed' crap, then fuck it - I'll pop in a Modest CB Mewtwo with BoltBeam, Aura Sphere & Pysychic for the lulz. Or maybe a Lugia.

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At 10/12/09 12:54 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Just now I encountered a shiny Lairon, but unfortunately that asswipe used roar. Although I didn't save the game but I don't think it would've matter anyway, oh well.

Damn, I feel your pain. I hate it when you encounter shiny Pokemon with Roar, SelfDestruct/Explosion or in the Safari Zone.

At 10/12/09 11:19 PM, Aci6 wrote: Quick Balls are your friend.

No more so than any other type of Ball that gives a x4 catch rate multiplier. Unless he was extremely lucky, there would have been only a minute chance that he would have caught a Lairon in a Quick Ball while it was undamaged/high health.

Also, I was messing around with Photoshop and made a crappy picture of what Weavile might look like in real life. Don't ask me why I was thinking that, but I was.

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At 10/12/09 11:39 PM, Assi9 wrote: Hmmmm.......if they're really going to go through with this 'some Ubers allowed' crap, then fuck it - I'll pop in a Modest CB Mewtwo with BoltBeam, Aura Sphere & Pysychic for the lulz. Or maybe a Lugia.

I hope to God you meant choice specs.

At 10/13/09 12:50 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote: Damn, I feel your pain. I hate it when you encounter shiny Pokemon with Roar, SelfDestruct/Explosion or in the Safari Zone.

A wild Abra appeared!
Oh wow it's a shiny-
Wild Abra used teleport!
FFFFFUUUUUU-

Also, I was messing around with Photoshop and made a crappy picture of what Weavile might look like in real life. Don't ask me why I was thinking that, but I was.

That reminds me of that IRL Pokemon contest Worth1000 had a few years ago. You've probably seen pictures of them floating around the internets.


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At 10/13/09 11:30 AM, Fox wrote:
At 10/12/09 11:39 PM, Assi9 wrote: Hmmmm.......if they're really going to go through with this 'some Ubers allowed' crap, then fuck it - I'll pop in a Modest CB Mewtwo with BoltBeam, Aura Sphere & Pysychic for the lulz. Or maybe a Lugia.
I hope to God you meant choice specs.

Fuck.....yes, I meant Specs. Thanks for fixing that. :P

At 10/13/09 12:50 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote: Damn, I feel your pain. I hate it when you encounter shiny Pokemon with Roar, SelfDestruct/Explosion or in the Safari Zone.
A wild Abra appeared!
Oh wow it's a shiny-
Wild Abra used teleport!
FFFFFUUUUUU-

I think that happened to me with a Shiny Tangela in Ruby once......or was it Crystal?........I can't remember......

Also, I was messing around with Photoshop and made a crappy picture of what Weavile might look like in real life. Don't ask me why I was thinking that, but I was.
That reminds me of that IRL Pokemon contest Worth1000 had a few years ago. You've probably seen pictures of them floating around the internets.

I've seen some really shitty ones in that vein - like an IRL Squirtle made with a squirrel....

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Is it bad that I'm having trouble getting over the incident with shiny Lairon? Right now I trying to hatch a shiny by turning the game off every time a normie hatches before turning it back on.


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At 10/13/09 04:14 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Is it bad that I'm having trouble getting over the incident with shiny Lairon? Right now I trying to hatch a shiny by turning the game off every time a normie hatches before turning it back on.

Nah,It takes me a while to get over a shiny loss,it just depends on the shiny,but it should not last for up to a week

Now with the egg hatching thing ...
Did you save before you got your egg from the day care?If so,then your doing the egg hatching thing right...
But if not,then you are going to get the same pokemon down to it's IV's and shininess...


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At 10/13/09 12:50 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote:
No more so than any other type of Ball that gives a x4 catch rate multiplier. Unless he was extremely lucky, there would have been only a minute chance that he would have caught a Lairon in a Quick Ball while it was undamaged/high health.

Really? I was just chucking them out and catching them all the time when I wanted one...

Also, I was messing around with Photoshop and made a crappy picture of what Weavile might look like in real life. Don't ask me why I was thinking that, but I was.

let me see... it was pretty neat, I left a review :D

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At 10/14/09 12:44 AM, Aci6 wrote: Really? I was just chucking them out and catching them all the time when I wanted one...

Hmm... maybe I'm giving Lairon's catch rate a bit too much credit.


let me see... it was pretty neat, I left a review :D

Cheers :D

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Hey Guys! I haven't been on Newgrounds on a while and I plan on being active more more. Anyways, the reason I'm posting is for the news of an offical US Arceus event! It runs through November 7th-15th. It's (unfourtanantley) a Toys R Us Mystery Gift event. It works for Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum.

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