Finnally, something is getting done about this, though the people doing this probably don't care for their NG account(s) anyway. All the better I say, to see them go.

If I may make a suggestion, perhaps a new NG account could not be used until after a week from activation. Only viewing and voting, but no submitting. This may prevent spamming in the portal, and even spamming anywhere, like "Oh I was banned in the BBS, I'll just make a new account and continue my spamming".

I know about that spam. I've had some responses advertising that sort of site and it was annoying. One was just saying that such and such is the best site ever. That one was stupid, but I'm happy to hear that you're sorting this problem out Wade. Thanks!

At 3/10/05 07:30 AM, deck_head_tottie wrote: Give it an hour, it will say eventually say: "Someone is stealing our bandwidth".

Yes, it may say that, but what if someone links to .swf directly? It can be VERY easily digged up by looking into the source and searching the submissions .swf file address. What am I talking about? About this.

BTW... Half day past... it's still there. Wade, you aren't cleaning up blammed crap from fileserver?

~juraj

At 3/10/05 02:50 AM, HellaBAD1 wrote: So yeah, I attended the GDC and since I was there I went to the IGDF. Alien Hominid on two or three awards (can't remember as I'm rather drunk from the reception.) Gish won two, I believe, and Edmund proposed to his GF on stage and she said yes. Discuss, and now I must sleep.

How is it that no one read this?
Alien hominid won 3 awards this year
Visual Arts - Alien Hominid
Technical Excellence - Alien Hominid
Audience Award - Alien Hominid

Gish won 2 awards
Game Design - Gish
And the grand prize, Indie Game of the Year - Gish

and like he said i proposed to danielle on stage, im sure tom will make a front page post about this soon enough, with pics!
-Edmund

So, we cant mention sites in Review responses, but we should in our movies? Have I got that right?

Thanks for the heads up.

At 3/10/05 10:38 AM, Admiral8Q wrote: If I may make a suggestion, perhaps a new NG account could not be used until after a week from activation. Only viewing and voting, but no submitting. This may prevent spamming in the portal, and even spamming anywhere, like "Oh I was banned in the BBS, I'll just make a new account and continue my spamming".

That is a silly idea.
One week will make no difference at all in a new users habbits and overall knowledge.
And alt accounts used after being banned will get both your accounts deleted.

At 3/10/05 03:12 PM, black_power_ranger wrote:
That is a silly idea.

No way, so what if alt accounts already exsist. It's just that you would not be able to submit 30 flash a day under 15 new accounts.

One week will make no difference at all in a new users habbits and overall knowledge.

I'm not talking about newbies, I'm saying people who create alts to spam

And alt accounts used after being banned will get both your accounts deleted.

If only that could be tracked or moderated...

At 3/10/05 03:34 PM, Admiral8Q wrote:

At 3/10/05 03:12 PM, black_power_ranger wrote:
That is a silly idea.

No way, so what if alt accounts already exsist. It's just that you would not be able to submit 30 flash a day under 15 new accounts.

Ha, its possible. But if its shit flash I'm not complaing.
yay. blam points :)

If only that could be tracked or moderated...

Moderators have the ability to check IPs, so they can match up accounts.
And there aren't enough people that spam to really ruin any of ngs awesome features.
people that waste there time submitting crap that rarely makes it through and posting shit on the forums should be dealt with harshly, yet within reason.

If you create that 'one week' account rule, then new members won't be able to submit to the portal. Not every noob is an alt you know. Your post is a bit unclear on what exactly your trying to say.

i hate people who do those kind of things

At 3/10/05 03:53 PM, black_power_ranger wrote: If you create that 'one week' account rule, then new members won't be able to submit to the portal. Not every noob is an alt you know. Your post is a bit unclear on what exactly your trying to say.

Well, when your new it's all learning, and yes I agree it may be unfair to newbs. 1 week may seem unfair but if it elliminated most spam, I'd agree to that upon creating my account. But I mean, let's say I started spamming you with useless crap, got this account banned, yet reset my IP then created a new account 2 minutes later and continued to spam, got banned again. New account, now I think I'm smart and continue to spam.

By this I mean spamming the portal.

Okay.

Ah, it is quite an annoyance when people decide to promote sites just for the hits. :'(

At 3/9/05 08:19 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

but it stars with Cyber.

you fucking idio you forgo he fucking tee!!!!

At 3/10/05 04:54 PM, Tal-con wrote: When your DT collection page is turned down I'm gonna laugh it up =)

You obviously didnt see Tom's reply to PsychoJester's email.

'll admit, we pretty much snubbed the Daily Toons after the Star Syndicate
proxy voting scandal. I might still put together an acknowledgement page but
I haven't been making it a huge priority. It really was kinda cool that
otherwise blammed artists got to share some time in the spotlight. :)

-Tom

j00bieXZ: alright, I guess Zero and I will just fiddle with the list a bit.
j00bieXZ: he has 20, and I have 21.. im sure we can find something to argue about ;)

FDA ALL DAY: narrow it to 25 or so
FDA ALL DAY: between the both
FDA ALL DAY: also have a comment about both and an introduction about the history
FDA ALL DAY: ;-)

j00bieXZ: thanks 8-)
j00bieXZ: I got a list, and description for all the Daily Toons to be in the collection

:::or::::

N O H I M N 0 1: but the collection pages are mostly done in HTML
N O H I M N 0 1: so couldn't me and j00bie construct the page?

FDA ALL DAY: well... if you wanted I could send over a past collectiong page and you could modify it if you wanted
FDA ALL DAY: let's start off with just spotlighting the ones you sent me
FDA ALL DAY: ya know?

N O H I M N 0 1: hmm

FDA ALL DAY: if there are too many then people get thrown by it
FDA ALL DAY: believe me
FDA ALL DAY: right now I just want to highlight them
FDA ALL DAY: ok?

N O H I M N 0 1: alright

::::

When we do get the Daily Toons collection, I'm going to laugh it up, and youre going to become even more of a whiny hoe.

At 3/9/05 08:20 PM, -stem- wrote: lol @ the bad guys.

lmao wow that sucks for them if they get caught... not only that thats so gay and retarded it pisses me off that people are wasting NG's good bandwidth and disk space to have it on their crappy sites.... and probably dont even thank or care about ng

At 3/9/05 08:19 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Be sure to read my post below if you were planning to attend the IGF show in San Francisco that Tom was attending! It is NOT free and open to the public like he originally thought!

We have recently had some people spamming links to websites, other than their own personal website, in the comments for their portal entries and also in their reponses to their entry's reviews. I won't mention the website, but it stars with Cyber. Anyone submitting

wade, your cool, so please dont ban me for this.... but i know the person who did that, and he DID only spam for his own site. I know you probably wont read this post, but he didnt spam for other sites. Even though his messages were obnoxious "OMGOMGOMGBALMVISITCYBERWARS" He really was just prmoting his site. It wasnt until AFTER you banned him he spammed for surfjunky. Now again, please dont ban me from your site, but I gave him two of the screenames he used for submitting AFTER he was banned. So sue me. Please reconsider he deltion of his accounts, because, unless he did something i dont know about, he technically didnt do anything wrong...

At 3/9/05 08:55 PM, swive wrote:

At 3/9/05 08:49 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

or in this case "CYBER-SPACE.COM"

*cyberwar

law suite?

At 3/9/05 08:50 PM, Meoman wrote:

why the FUCK would you post a link to goatse when you say they are spamming it. I hate you! arghhhh.

lol. sorry i didn't think about that. But the link didn't work anyway, cause i guessed the URL for the site. lol

wtf is up with surfjunky? it's not like the site brings you to some disgusting picture like gotse and tubgirl

me no like spam or posting adds for a website on the forum it not nice. Buuuuttt i do like pie as it says on my sig.

Ok. That shit really gets annoying. Not only shoulder every site IP ban people who post those links but those sites themselves should be illegal for promoting the flooding of other websites. Why cant damn hackers be good for once and crash their servers and wipe their servers. I would love to see that damn outwars shit gone from the net. I would love to see the top spammers kill themselves after they found out all their spam efforts have been for nothing and their life has been a waste. There's no point to that stuff. Why not change the terms of agreement to "If you spam outwar links or any links of such a nature then you're IP adress will become public in a frontpage post. Then you could legally post those asshole's IP adresses and let some wanna-be hackers try their skills out on it. Lol. Like target practice. I think that would kick ass. Site visits would increase because hackers would want more noob IP's to hack. Heh. That would kick. But seriously. I dont think those sites have a place on the net. Im not about to compare those sites to kiddy porn but both have to go. Lol. Quite the reference hm? Not to mention that outwars and other sites automaticly download spyware and other stuff to your computer so they should be shut down just for that. Why cant we legally shut them down? Damn bastards. Anyway that's been my rant. If anyone bothers to read this without going crosseyed then I'll dedicate my daily front page message to you if you're the first to reply. LOL. Damn Im weird. Ok. That's enough outa me.

Fear not, Newgrounds Users! The Whackmiester (a.k.a Battlebaron, Morok_Firebelch, JusticeClock) is here to kick all the spammers in the ass until it bleeds!

I Had A Buddy That Told Me About This Being A PROBLEM She Experienced @ OTHER Game/Flash Sites ... THANX 4 Puttin The Word Out; BTW NewGrounds Has A LOT Of GR8 Artists & Content ... EVEN HORRIBLE Submissions Can INSPIRE Some1 2 TRY 2 SUBMIT Something BETTER ;p ... ~ PEACE & CRE8TIVITY ~ Mr W.A.D.2

At 3/9/05 08:19 PM, WadeFulp wrote: I won't mention the website, but it stars with Cyber.

And the flash was called
"SECKSAY AZNZ"

At 3/10/05 09:55 PM, Flameo-Ninja wrote: And the flash was called
"SECKSAY AZNZ"

Flameo-Ninja, what the hell are you talking about? SECKSAY AZNZ? You people make no damn sense.

At 3/9/05 11:37 PM, -Noir wrote:

At 3/9/05 11:29 PM, gfoxcook wrote: Review mods were able to unflag unfairly whistled portal entries from March of 2004 to June of 2004. I myself unflagged around 6 or 7 movies, I believe, in that 3 month period.

I had no clue about that.
I am a fairly oblivious person when it comes to little things like that.

No problemo. Lots of people who've been here for a loooong time and had ample opportunity to have found out how some things they end up being interested in work... they still often are ignorant about some stuff.

Most of the stuff that's been said about the unwhistle-ability of review mods for those few months was either on the review mod forum (not your fault for having not seen that stuff, obviously!) or perhaps in the "abusive reviews" topic on Where is/How to?, which I suppose you might not be an avid reader of. No biggie, again.

[I just recognized the 'characters remaining' feature yesterday . ]
was it in a front page post? Non of you guys ever brought it up again to the admins?

I don't believe it ever was, no. But little features, such as that one... or the new 4 decimal digits thanks for voting score display, as another example... aren't really worth making front page posts (or any topics about, really).

Obviously it's just a matter of time and work before review mods can do different things and before a portal mod system is set up as well, blackpowerranger.

I was in that thread, but ,sadly, didn't get to read through it all.
I am glad the crew is thinking of implamenting such features -
I think it will really improve the portal system.

thank you for the informative response, gfoxcook. :)

You're quite welcome. Thanks for showing an interest, it's okay that you can't read through everything. That's what I'm here for: to summarise. #;-}>

At 3/10/05 12:38 AM, Master_Inuyasha wrote: Well I know some mods will become portal mods, probably ramagi, Denvish, TheJoe324, and among others who go there everyday. But who knows, lets just give liljim all the time he needs for his current work you know. I'm sure by summertime portal mods shall be afoot.

(cough)... ramagi and Denvish vote on more stuff than me in the portal, yes... but why on earth did Joe get a mention before *I* did, eh? I'm about to hit 53,000 b/p and I'm second only to ramagi in "total time spent voting on UJ movies in the portal," quite obviously. #;-}>

Meanwhile, Joe, as he will tell you, hasn't been voting on much more than the 5 movies for his experience per day... since April 2004, almost a year ago. He's cut way down on his portal usage AND his review modding, he's just not into those areas of NG much anymore. Just posting and exp, it seems.

At 3/10/05 04:36 AM, Back_Door_Baron wrote: I haven't been on this site that long (just over a year) and I have seen that there are far too many links to websites in reviews, many of them not at all related to one's own personal website.

Greg, you mentioned that they've been working on this for years, but it really doesn't seem to make any difference. Even submissions will still get their say before anyone sees anything wrong with it. While I applaud this effort to rid the portal of spam, I honestly think that it is futile, as people will always find a way to promote a site in who's promotion said people will get some benefit.

Of course it's futile if the effort is to COMPLETELY stop such things. But the goal really isn't that... it's to LOWER the amount of such shit to as little an amount as possible.

And some things, such as the "banned people's reviews don't show up to anyone but mods/admins unless it's the most recent review on a movie" policy.... and the "you can't review faster than 1 review per 3.5 minutes" policy... are making a positive difference. That's all we can do: find small changes to enact and hope they work, yanno?

Anyway, at first I thought you were Baron Von Bad Guy with a new username for some reason (because you have Baron in your name and called me Greg). If you've only been on the site for a year, how on earth did you find out my name is Greg? #;-}>

At 3/10/05 04:44 AM, juraj wrote: BTW I've noticed that blammed flashes are still available on NG's fileserver (uploads.ungrounded.net). What does that mean? NG keeps blammed .swf files? You don't delete that crap?

Here's the proof.

This crap has been blammed
http://newgrounds.com/portal/rip.php?id=223964

And it's still available on NG's fileserver
http://uploads.ungrounded.net/...1&uj=1&w=550&h=400

WTF!?

~juraj

This is well known to most hardcore NG-informed regulars, man. What's the big deal?

NG has practically infinite hard drive space, it's the least of their problems (bandwidth and database server strain are much higher up on the list). There's nothing wrong with hanging on to blammed flashes just in case... at least for a certain amount of time. No one can access them unless they snagged the SRC URL before the flash was blammed, as you figured out how to do. Good job with that, BTW, but you ain't the first to think of it. #;-}>

Well, accually, I bought some tickets off of Creig's List for 50 bucks each, and could get in even though I was only 14, I even met Tom and Dan.

Wow, finally Wade. I sent you an email about this guy 13 days ago.

At 3/10/05 11:26 PM, gfoxcook wrote: (cough)... ramagi and Denvish vote on more stuff than me in the portal, yes...

Yeah, they prowl it like nobodys buisness, especially Denvish, he's gotten tons of stars and broken a few records.

but why on earth did Joe get a mention before *I* did, eh? I'm about to hit 53,000 b/p and I'm second only to ramagi in "total time spent voting on UJ movies in the portal," quite obviously. #;-}>

XD HAHA! ...um......cause you special. :D But yeah, I'm sorry, you kind slipped my mind since you've been gone for quite a bit. :P They better make you a portal mod when it comes down to it.

Meanwhile, Joe, .... Just posting and exp, it seems.

Yeah. :/ He needs to hit that 20k save mark someday.

At 3/10/05 08:32 PM, Psycho_Nuts wrote: Why not change the terms of agreement to "If you spam outwar links or any links of such a nature then you're IP adress will become public in a frontpage post. Then you could legally post those asshole's IP adresses and let some wanna-be hackers try their skills out on it. Lol. Like target practice. I think that would kick ass. Site visits would increase because hackers would want more noob IP's to hack. Heh. That would kick.

You know, I really like his solution. Promise to share the IP if they keep on spamming, and then let the script kiddie wannabe hackers sort them out afterwards. Sounds like a fair deal where everyone but the spammer goes home happy.