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Hey all, i have a question. I've been lurking here for a while, and i like the looks of this crew. I've trolled enough to notice that to become a member i would need to come up with a survival plan, and i was wondering if there was any sort of template i should know about/follow before i start putting a plan together. By template i mean any sort of guidelines, things i should definitley include in my plan, or anything else like that. In addition if anyone has any suggestions for a good plan, i would love the advice. I'm pretty new to the zombie world, and anything at all will help. Thanks.

At 11/19/07 04:22 PM, Xtesh wrote:

At 11/19/07 03:57 PM, Knorpfdog wrote: I've trolled

And now you have no chance at getting in. We don't allow trolls in here, excepting smeagol1. Even then, he's getting better.

:(

hahaha... you guys are fucking evil in here. (/goes and joins the "pussies" crew)

.....NOT

At 11/19/07 04:22 PM, Xtesh wrote:

At 11/19/07 03:57 PM, Knorpfdog wrote: I've trolled

And now you have no chance at getting in. We don't allow trolls in here, excepting smeagol1. Even then, he's getting better.

That's not the kind of trolling he was talking about. He MEANS he's been paying attention. This is the kind of member we need.

At 11/19/07 03:57 PM, Knorpfdog wrote: Hey all, i have a question. I've been lurking here for a while, and i like the looks of this crew. I've trolled enough to notice that to become a member i would need to come up with a survival plan, and i was wondering if there was any sort of template i should know about/follow before i start putting a plan together. By template i mean any sort of guidelines, things i should definitley include in my plan, or anything else like that. In addition if anyone has any suggestions for a good plan, i would love the advice. I'm pretty new to the zombie world, and anything at all will help. Thanks.

Well one thing to look into is seperateing your post up a little, thier not that bad but, capitalize some "I's" and use a few periods instead of comas. Possibly some paragraphs, but other than that your a good poster.

That said, I used a priority template. I sectioned off: "Weaponsand Armor, and what and when thier used", "Shelter, where will you make your base, and how will you fortify it", "Supplies, what medical, food, energy and other supplies will you need, how will you try to get them", and you may want to add some other collum.

Now when you make your plan, really think about what you would do if flesh eater undead bodies were roaming around. Imagine the possible thing that could happen, phyco people could attack you, survivor's could try to break in and steal your gear, or most likely, zed-heads will suround your shelter, entrapping you for days, months even, depends on if they find and intrest on something else or not.

Alright, thanks for the advice. I think I'll start working on my plan as soon as I can, although that may be a little while depending on school. Once again, thanks, Jak.

And yes, just to clarify, by "I've trolled..." I meant that I've been paying attention to the thread and the posts, "learning" from them, if you will. =)

:D im seriously going to spent most of my school day tommorrow thinking of a survival plan to post so i can join

At 11/19/07 04:22 PM, Xtesh wrote:

At 11/19/07 03:57 PM, Knorpfdog wrote: I've trolled

And now you have no chance at getting in. We don't allow trolls in here, excepting smeagol1. Even then, he's getting better.

What? Smeagol1's a troll?

Did anyone actually bother to read my post?

At 11/17/07 09:17 AM, vXTheUprisingXv wrote: How's it going in Zombieville fellas? I've been reading this thread for the past couple of hours and would like to make a small contribution if you don't mind. I've been a daily user at NG for a few years but never even bothered to see what there was to being a member. Well, I'm here now and I hope that i can make my first post a logical one since it's almost 6am here in california and i haven't slept a minute.

I've been ill for the past few days with a runny nose, light-headedness and slight-headaches.

Surviving a Class 4 Zombie Outbreak in Moreno Valley, CA, USA:
Part 1: Initial Planning - Moreno Valley, CA lays on the eastern edge of the Los Angeles metropolis and is exactly a one hours drive from both the ocean and the mountains, as well as the high desert. One of the only places in the country with such a location. To the North is Big Bear Mountain, a large pinewood mountain range. Here I could potentially "camp" out and survive as a hunter/gatherer until... (insert own ironic fate here). To the east is the desert, the location of 29palms(USMC main live fire base). Here i could hope for the hospitality and protection of the marine corps, but take the risk of being shot on sight in an effort to maintain the integrity of the military. South of here is the ocean... well there isn't much i could see doing there. My house, specifically, is on the base of a small mountain along with 250+ other residences. My desicion: Take initial equipment and personell into the nearby mountains. Play the situation by ear; listen for emergency radio broadcasts, survey the immidiate area for zombie whords that may be an upcomming threat. In due time, either make way to the mountain range up north or to the desert to the east dependant on current events.

Okay...

Part 2: Resources - First thing that comes to mind is self preservation; grab the shotgun and the revolver. It may be loud, it may be wasteful, but it will damn sure keep me alive until a better means presents itself. Make sure all doors and windows are properly secured. Unless someone is already infected in my house, the zombies shouond't have a reason to bust in right off the bat.

They do have a reason and that's to have you for a bloody dessert.

Contact family and friends. Set up potential rally points and radio contact frequencies for future communication.

What's the power situation of the rally points? Batteries? You are aware that shortly after the undead arrive, power stations will stop running.

Gather all of my backpacking/survival equipment and empty out my pantry. Shove everything i have gathered thus far into hefty trashbags and pile them by the front door. don't forget to throw a few shovels and picks in the pile. Now, if i had to get the hell out of dodge in a hurry, i have a better change of taking what i'll need to survive. Oh, and as far as a melee weapon, a pair of 23in Sais should do the trick for me(tucks them under belt).

Sais are horrible weapons. What you need to use are blunt weapons. The objective to kill a zombie is to destroy the brain. If you use bladed weapons, you're likely to get the blade stuck in the skull. While with blunt, it's very unlikely to get it stuck but you're still going to destroy the brain more effectively.

Part 3: On the Move - Quickly throw the trash bags onto the truck and try to get a hold of your contacts. Swing by the preset rally points and see if anyone made it that far, if so, then convoy to the nearest sporting goods store or walmart. If the joints are overrun, pass them up.

They most likely will be over-run and very packed. At least Walmart will be. If it isn't, you'll most likely find that either:
A. Someone has made a small "base" there already.
Or.
B. No one is alive there but the resources are used up.

If you have a chance of getting in and getting out with what you need, i'd go for it. Pick up extra ammo, dry freezed foods, white gas, anything you may need(assuming looters haven't already emptied the place).

Again, they most likely will of emptied the place. That or someone is already "camping" there. Which in that case, they wouldn't be too happy about you coming into the mall and stealing their goods.

Don't take the freeways or main any enclosed roadway, you may need to make a quick escape incase the road is blocked. make way to the nearby mountain and drive a dirt road to the peak.

Do you know how to repair your truck in case it breaks down? What happens if the truck breaks on you and it appears you can not fix it?

Part 4: Your new home - This is where you will be living for the next few weeks(at least). If you have the engineering know-how(which i do) dig a small underground tunnel system for emergency situations.

I think you might be dreaming too much. A small under-ground tunnel system would not only take too long, but it'd also be too risky. Undead could ambush you from them, undead could destroy it from above ground. So on.

Live off of whatever you have, as well as what you can hunt(in this case it would be cayotes and mules). If you see a group of survivors through your scope down in the city, signal them if possible, and stay alert at all times. Constantly survey the city below and scan radio frequencies for signs of hope.

One problem about being alone is if you're sleeping, what happens when a zombie wonders in your general direction? You may not wake up at all and just become a bloody pile of bones at the base of a tree. How will you ensure that does not happen?

Part 5: What to do now? - A few options. Stay local and play out your childhood fantasies as a zombie slayer(plausible, wouldn't hurt to try) or respond to radio traffic from the marine base out east and move out.

How would you hear any radio traffic? You didn't mention anything about having a radio (besides the walky-talky system I think you were on about earlier).

Last but not least, you could give up all hope of ever having a normal life again and move north to waste your life in the high mountains.

Can you expand on this?

How would you transport yourself? Beats me... i'm getting too tired to include details.

PS: Sais are fork-like japanese weapons used mainly against katanas and eventually evolved into a greater range of uses. This would be my main weapon against the zombies(in event of a whorde, i'd use the firearms, but try to conserve ammo). With a couple quick blows you could a) bash it's head in b) stab through it's brain c) hook an extremity do disable it in preparation for the final blow d) use your imagination.

Again, it's a bladed weapon, even then it's a pretty blunt bladed weapon only sharp at stabbing. I think you may want to leave your Sais at home, as much as you think they are useful, and pick up something like a good-old metallic baseball bat. Granted, baseball bats are slower, bigger and require two hands instead of one; but you will be less likely to get it stuck in the skull and smashing it with a baseball bat continuously is more destructive than stabbing a brain.

Final Statement: I undestand that my post may have had any number of grammatical, punctual, or spelling errors, and i apologize. Like i said.... I am very tired. Also i apologize that i kept changing the point of veiw.

As long you're not spelling this bad usually, it doesn't matter.

PSS: Please criticise my plan down to every detail if you like, i would like to hear what you think. And I welcome flammers ;-)

Done and done. Please improve and we'll see if you're getting in.

At 11/21/07 01:50 AM, vXTheUprisingXv wrote: Did anyone actually bother to read my post?

Nope.

Well, Uprising, your plan for underground tunnels is good, but oviously digging one is out of the question. There are sewer tunnels, with the manholes on no zombie would be able to get in, but then you have many other problems, like if it floods your pretty screwwed, if someone leave a manhole open the zombies could fall in by the masses, again your screwed, what were to happen if it's an old tunnel and a part collapses, screwed.

So this being said, I ask you fellow zombie fans, what would be a good sheltered place, now keep in mind of other people and the places strategic location, what are the pros and cons?

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Oh and Lost, I was thinking...would a aluminum bat really be better? I mean oviously it's stronger and more durable, but it is also pretty light. Where-as a wooden is heavier but will also bust easily, hmm I think this equation solves it.... Durability > Attack Power.

COCK JOKE!!!!!

At 11/21/07 03:33 PM, JakFro5t wrote: Well, Uprising, your plan for underground tunnels is good, but oviously digging one is out of the question.

There's also the possibility of suffocation. Without any air conditioning or filtration, it will be hard for CO2 to escape and O2 to get in.

So this being said, I ask you fellow zombie fans, what would be a good sheltered place, now keep in mind of other people and the places strategic location, what are the pros and cons?

A place where a zed, no matter what, couldn't reach. High places are very good, because if you destroy the stairs or ladder to your position, it will be very difficult for a zombie to reach you.

Exceptions are made when there are extreme numbers of zombies that could climb over each other in a writhing pile. In that situation, you want to either-

A: Barricade the entry point

or

B: Retreat to a higher point, assuming you can. If not, maintain a constant standoff against the zombies. If the odd one that makes it to the top is plugged in the forehead, it won't matter anymore, now would it?

Oh and Lost, I was thinking...would a aluminum bat really be better? I mean oviously it's stronger and more durable, but it is also pretty light.

The problem with a wooden bat is that it's harder to bust a skull with it. Try beating somebody's head in with a 2X4, then try to do that in the time span that you effectively have an offensive advantage over a zombie for.

At 11/21/07 03:33 PM, JakFro5t wrote: Oh and Lost, I was thinking...would a aluminum bat really be better? I mean oviously it's stronger and more durable, but it is also pretty light. Where-as a wooden is heavier but will also bust easily, hmm I think this equation solves it.... Durability > Attack Power.

Some aluminium bats are pretty heavy. You can also put a hole in it and put a couple of weights in if you feel the need to make it heavier some how. But aluminium is a lot stronger than wood. Don't want your bat breaking during the action.

At 11/21/07 07:34 PM, silentkat wrote: First, I'll join. Okay, on with the plan.

Lost has not bothered with checking this plan. Ark me, ark ark.

1. I'd get a Uzi and some ammo (about 300 rounds) and a bottle of water, and 7 grenades and 7 smoke grenades.

Civilian gun stores have begun selling automatic weapons? I'm sure they haven't. Notice how you say "get an uzi". Where will you get it? There aren't many, if at all, people who can just pull weapons out of their ass.

Also, I know of no place that gives away, let alone sells, grenades. The closest you'll get to those is fireworks, and we all know those do shit to zombies. To kill one requires sufficient damage to the brain, and even a heavy explosive does not not ensure that.

A bottle of water? Only one? Why not three?

An outbreak might last longer than one bottle of water can keep you alive. Why leave a place where you can get plentiful water, anyways? Your home can easily give you more, if limited to a point, water supplies. It also most likely contains food.

2.Sneak out at night with a flashlight and a dagger (still all supplies with me), and head near the closest roof, and keep an eye till 7 in the morning.

At night? Well, why the hell not?

A flashlight does not turn night into day. everything is deadlier because of the darkness, and your morale would most likely drop know zacks are out. Also, your light will attract people, and zombies.

A dagger? Why not a crowbar? A crowbar has many more uses than a dagger, and it kills things more efficiently. Almost any other household tool would work in its absence, like an axe or hatchet.

3. If the neighborhood is clear, I'll take a bike (for no noise) and zoom down to the closest mall. Break inside, take the flashlight, and look for a light switch panel. Turn on that panel and head up the stairs.

Where is the mall? If you live where you are, you most likely know where the nearest mall is.

Also, a mall isn't a good place to stay. Contrary to Dead Rising, not only will it be packed with people, but with undead. If there are light switches, then what if there is no power?

4.Get right on the roof, and sit back with my bottle of water. Once the zombies start to huddle around the edges of the mall, I'll take the smoke grenades and toss 1 of 'em on each corner.

If you're at the top of a damn building, there's no way for the zack to get to you. Smoke grenades? I'll assume you meant those little fireworks that light up into puffs of colorful smoke, which will not affect the zack at all, since vision obscuration is a problem for you, not for them.

Then just start blasting them.

I'll explain something again. Zombies can only be killed with sufficient damage to the brain. Other bodily damage will never kill them.

Now, the Uzi. The Uzi is an automatic weapon developed by our wonderful mother country of Jews. Have you had training with any kind of firearm? If you somehow get an Uzi, you'll be firing at Zombies from the top of a mall for no apparent reason, save if you're guarding the way you got up there in the first place. Defending a ladder only involves placing the gun to the head of a zed and blowing them away before they climb up, but you make it out like you'll just be shooting them from the top of a mall.

Automatic weapons have kick. Any aim you had will be gone once you let more than one bullet spit out of the gun. A headshot will be very difficult to perform if you simply fire into a crowd, the weapon jerking everywhere. Not only that, but the smoke you yourself placed might obscure your aim!

5. If some Zombies are smart, and decide to climb the walls,

The only way zombies can climb walls is if the human they were could also climb walls. Zack does not "get smart". They have less intelligence than an insect, and will continously try and fail the same task, over and over again.

I'll just shoot 'em down. Next, throw 4 of the bombs. 2 at a time. Then throw another bomb, and start blasting.

What if your Uzi jammed, or it ran out of ammo? Would you defend yourself with your puny little dagger? Most likely you would not own these "bombs" at all, even if you had them they would have little effect.

6. Use up the rest of my bombs, and take a break with my bottle of water. Since the rest of them are still there, take out my Uzi and shoot 'em.

Fun fact: it only takes one bite from a zombie to penetrate your system and infect you. Infection results in death and reanimation.

7. Once they all are gone, walk down the stairs and get out the door. RUN. Get to the bush, get my bike, and start pedaling to Civilization.

What if they aren't all gone? What if somebody stole your bike?

You mention no cooperation with any other survivors. Are you assuming that the mall is empty? It won't be. The way you're going, you'd be better off just kicking zombies off the roof until outside assistance comes.

Thankyou Kuro, I read that persons post last night, but it made my brain hurt, the amount of total stupidity in it was overwhelming.

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So I suppose that we have decided that the axe or hatchet, or a crowbar, is the optimum melee zed-head defence weapon.

So what would be a good ranged weapon? It can be anything that shoots some sort of munition, whether it be a nail gun (I have one that shoots nails 50 ft) or a shotgun. Remember to post the pros. and cons. about the weapon, quit (or loud) ness, reload capabilities, possibile damage per shot, bullets per clip, rate of fire, and any other stats that could be a factor against the undead.

At 11/22/07 01:37 PM, JakFro5t wrote: Thankyou Kuro, I read that persons post last night, but it made my brain hurt, the amount of total stupidity in it was overwhelming.

I love it how you're making it sound like you're a life-long member.

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So I suppose that we have decided that the axe or hatchet, or a crowbar, is the optimum melee zed-head defence weapon.

Just about, if by just-about I mean no.

So what would be a good ranged weapon? It can be anything that shoots some sort of munition, whether it be a nail gun (I have one that shoots nails 50 ft) or a shotgun. Remember to post the pros. and cons. about the weapon, quit (or loud) ness, reload capabilities, possibile damage per shot, bullets per clip, rate of fire, and any other stats that could be a factor against the undead.

We just about concluded that a rifle for long rang and a 9mm handgun for short-range would be enough.

At 11/22/07 01:37 PM, JakFro5t wrote: Thank you Kuro,

Kuro is a member of the Anime crew, and a different person altogether than I. I go by Felis, since I loathe how nobody can change their alias anymore. There's almost nothing keeping me from making a new account, but I won't.

Ok im doing mine in point form here it is (my plan):

- Initial Plan & shelter: In the near outskirts of Winnipeg MB, Canada, living in the country with farmland facing my house, and both neighbors not too distant between, 10 minute drive into the murder capital of canada, no known places useable for a outpost, i would attempt to border down my own house, after ridding all the zombies from the immidiate area, leaving the back door sligtly accessable. After fortification easily to use as a rendevous-point i would hop on my quad and search my neighbor's houses to see if they have yet been infected, i would, with all survivors be ready on the move to the city, trying to find more living creatures, knowing that the city is quite large it would be quite risky, or we would be able to travel down to gimili which is an hours drive, but it would probably be already infected, Another plan would be to just fortify my house, close off all the windows and hope for the best living off my current supplies hoping military forces send help

- Weapons & Equipment: In my basement, i have a selection of 3 rifles each with a scope, one unscoped high powered rifle, and a pump shotgun, all inside a locked guncase easily openable by smashing the glass, or by crowbarring the door open. Limited ammo for the shotgun to 60 shells, 40 slug, 20 buck, and aprox 150 bullets for the rifles, and aprox 65 for the high powered rifle, i would grab the pump shotgun, and my switch blade i keep in my room.

- Supplies, Power & energy: In current supply of MY own house, theres over 3 months at least, if well rationed can be up to 5 for one single person, after then i could go raiding the neighboring houses for extra food, supply of water is thought of as infinate as my water tap system is hooked up to a well, which would be fine for water. Power may be a problem, if the living dead would be to have ripped down any of the power poles, my house would be un powered risking many crucial things like Frozen & refridgerated foods, and light, also electronical appliances like Radio's and computors

- What to do After Fortification and supply loss:

-I would more than likely than if by myself drive off in my dad's 10 wheeler, for extra protextion and look in the city for wandering survivors, if not any i would have to live my life raiding grocery stores, and reporting back to base

-If with a group the plan would be to split into 2 groups, traven to the city in differentr planned routes covering mas muhc area per time as possible looking for Food & ammo stores, and any survivors, as well as any apperent fortified areas

Yeah i know its not all that great, i did put some time into it though, also there may be some grammatical errors, as well as spelling errors

nd if any1 wants to comment on mine or point out whats wrong, etc or what i could improve on for grammer please do

At 11/23/07 12:20 PM, BigDates wrote: nd if any1 wants to comment on mine or point out whats wrong, etc or what i could improve on for grammer please do

Come back in 24 hours and maybe, just maybe, I'll get around to doing it.

So anyway in my top dresser drower (grr spelling?) I have about 10, M-70 fire crackers, pretty loud, and I thought that maybe if I needed to get inside a place but alot of Zeds were around it, I could throw one away from the area, and hopefully the dim witted undead will go after the sound. The draw back is that it may attract nearby zombies to my location. Hmm think it's worth it?

I'll do it now...

At 11/22/07 10:16 PM, BigDates wrote: Ok im doing mine in point form here it is (my plan):

Worse. Attempt. At. Point. Form. Ever. Paragraphs =/= point form.

- Initial Plan & shelter: In the near outskirts of Winnipeg MB, Canada, living in the country with farmland facing my house, and both neighbors not too distant between, 10 minute drive into the murder capital of canada, no known places useable for a outpost, i would attempt to border down my own house, after ridding all the zombies from the immidiate area, leaving the back door sligtly accessable.

Detail detail detail. How will you border it up? How will you leave the door slightly accessible? How will you get more petrol (or gas) for your car (if that's what you plan to use)? What are the advantages and disadvantages of the materials you're using to border it up? Why not use other materials?

After fortification easily to use as a rendevous-point i would hop on my quad and search my neighbor's houses to see if they have yet been infected, i would, with all survivors be ready on the move to the city, trying to find more living creatures,

On a quad-bike? You would go with all the survivors go to the city with just your quad-bike? You know they can only hold two people?

knowing that the city is quite large it would be quite risky, or we would be able to travel down to gimili which is an hours drive, but it would probably be already infected, Another plan would be to just fortify my house, close off all the windows and hope for the best living off my current supplies hoping military forces send help

I think you're hoping for way too much.

- Weapons & Equipment: In my basement, i have a selection of 3 rifles each with a scope, one unscoped high powered rifle, and a pump shotgun, all inside a locked guncase easily openable by smashing the glass, or by crowbarring the door open.

Call me crazy: A pump shotgun is a rifle? Since when?

Limited ammo for the shotgun to 60 shells, 40 slug, 20 buck, and aprox 150 bullets for the rifles, and aprox 65 for the high powered rifle, i would grab the pump shotgun, and my switch blade i keep in my room.

Because a switch-blade is really handy to kill a zombie with?

- Supplies, Power & energy: In current supply of MY own house, theres over 3 months at least, if well rationed can be up to 5 for one single person, after then i could go raiding the neighboring houses for extra food, supply of water is thought of as infinate as my water tap system is hooked up to a well, which would be fine for water.

You've never seen cabin fever I see.

Power may be a problem, if the living dead would be to have ripped down any of the power poles, my house would be un powered risking many crucial things like Frozen & refridgerated foods, and light, also electronical appliances like Radio's and computors

Unless wind up?

- What to do After Fortification and supply loss:

-I would more than likely than if by myself drive off in my dad's 10 wheeler, for extra protextion and look in the city for wandering survivors, if not any i would have to live my life raiding grocery stores, and reporting back to base

You don't have any idea how hard they are to drive, let alone the very slow acceleration and poor handling with let you down.

-If with a group the plan would be to split into 2 groups, traven to the city in differentr planned routes covering mas muhc area per time as possible looking for Food & ammo stores, and any survivors, as well as any apperent fortified areas

Who said you're the group leader?

Yeah i know its not all that great, i did put some time into it though, also there may be some grammatical errors, as well as spelling errors

Some? I lost fucking count.

So what have I missed? Also everyone here needs to go read Zombie Hunter. Even if it does feature a chapter that is full of bare-chested women, it is a good manga to read full of violence and - you guessed it - ZOMBIES!!

Hey guys whats up. Im megaman12345. Just call me Mega. if zombies did hit the earth Here is what i would do.

get A light armor to portect me from A zombies bite. and swored crobar or something like that. and A gun. im sure i wouldnt have to much troble finding one. as for armor and A melee wepon i guess A musame or something like that would have armor. and the melee wepon wouldnt be hard to find. and here is what i would do. FInd as many survivers as possable. go to A home depo. build A barracation after filling the store with guns food electric generateors and other things. as for water well....i would get survivers to bulid a pipe lind to pure clean water or something like that. i would post snipers on the roof to kill zombies all day. if we ever ran out of bullets well then we would run out of bullets. but as long as the barracation held out we would be fine. and also the zombies would die out soon. there feash is rotting. they are hungry. they would starve to death or eat each other. when the zombies died out in the city me and the survivers are in we would go out and collect more supplies then go back to our home depo fortress. most supplies would be from walmart. lol.

At 11/28/07 05:52 PM, Twilight-Knight wrote: So what have I missed? Also everyone here needs to go read Zombie Hunter. Even if it does feature a chapter that is full of bare-chested women, it is a good manga to read full of violence and - you guessed it - ZOMBIES!!

You make the second part seem like a bad thing. Suspicious...

Lol yeah i did have some things wrong but no1 is perfect right?

At 11/28/07 06:37 PM, megaman12345 wrote: Hey guys whats up. Im megaman12345. Just call me Mega. if zombies did hit the earth Here is what i would do

You'd use the wall of text to barricade your house with. You'd then attack the living dead with all the misspellings and poor grammar in that wall. You'd never run out of ammunition.

i would effectively barricade myself in asda's (like a walmart for you americans) and then break out the baseball bat and the nailguns

asdas has enough food,supplies, backup generators, ect, to last about a year

clearing it, thats gonna be a problem