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At 3/8/05 03:16 AM, Zendra wrote:

:Because most people also stop depositing after level 9.

Exactly my point :-D


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I'm not sure about the member search entirely, I believe it was removed in the first place because the severs couldn't handle it or something, but making it available to level 10's only is a good idea.

I'd like to see that as a secret, a priviledge as it were maybe for those who have stayed with Newgrounds.


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Please note: this is not a thread for exchanging one-line replies. Please go and read the first post in the topic if you need more information.
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I don't know if this has been said before, but maybe the voting panel should have a little time limit before it loads up entirely (only on submissions under judgement). Maybe like a 10 second wait after the movie loads.


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At 3/8/05 08:23 PM, unowned wrote: I don't know if this has been said before, but maybe the voting panel should have a little time limit before it loads up entirely (only on submissions under judgement). Maybe like a 10 second wait after the movie loads.

Something like that was implemented a while (year or two) ago, but was removed because too many people were having problems with the voting panel never appearing.
What you have to bear in mind is that to code something like that, James has to make it compatible with several different browsers and OSs. And even if that works, the code can still get fucked up by other software like popup filters, firewalls, and so on.

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At 3/9/05 09:35 AM, Denvish wrote: Something like that was implemented a while (year or two) ago, but was removed because too many people were having problems with the voting panel never appearing.
What you have to bear in mind is that to code something like that, James has to make it compatible with several different browsers and OSs. And even if that works, the code can still get fucked up by other software like popup filters, firewalls, and so on.

Yeah, I guess you're right, Denvish. Never thought about that.

But you're talking about that it could get fucked up by pop-up filters, etc. But this could also happen now. Because we don't see the vote panel - when the movie is still under judgement - if you haven't launched the movie.
So then the problem you are talking about, we already have...

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Thx to Denvish for redirecting me here.

Personally, i would be happy if just the Audio Portal experienced this kind of change. This might be a pain in the ass for the admins, but i think it would be cool if they or someone(s) they deem worthy could look through the submitted stuff and give it a "NG Score" or something, along with the average user score. Since I have seen (and experienced) the bad rating habits of NG users, i think having an score given by someone trustworthy would be a great resource, and something serious users could respect. There are too many crappy and not enough good audios in the 4-5 range, and the good ones down in the 2-3 range are never heard.


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At 3/9/05 09:39 PM, lord-south-park wrote: when you review a movie and the author replies to your review shouldint the author beable to turn a option on/off to let you reply back to his reply does any one agree with me that thay should add this option?

It's better for the author to get the final word. He made the flash of course.

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At 3/9/05 10:24 PM, Dave wrote: It's better for the author to get the final word. He made the flash of course.

One thing that I think review mods should be able to do is ban authors from responding to reviews. There are some people that submit flash just so they can abuse people that review it because they get off on it or something, no matter what the content of the review was.

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I don't know if this has been suggested before (I'm sure it probably has), but I think an upgraded personal profile is in order. I not saying there should be many changes, but I think a list of "favourite audio" is a really important thing missing from the current one. This would only help generate interest in the Audio Portal. This could also apply to reviews as well (ie a link to Flash reviews, and a link to Audio reviews). Also an extra digit for voting power would be neat.

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At 3/9/05 10:43 PM, TheJoe324 wrote: One thing that I think review mods should be able to do is ban authors from responding to reviews. There are some people that submit flash just so they can abuse people that review it because they get off on it or something, no matter what the content of the review was.

Yeah, I've seen a few people post about this. I don't know how hard it would be to implement, or whether it would even be seriously considered. Although I'm fully on the Author's side, there will always be users that take the piss of whatever system is currently in place, and there should be some way to smack them down if they're being deliberately antagonistic or abusive.

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At 3/9/05 10:43 PM, TheJoe324 wrote: One thing that I think review mods should be able to do is ban authors from responding to reviews. There are some people that submit flash just so they can abuse people that review it because they get off on it or something, no matter what the content of the review was.

Hmm, never really though about that. But people also abuse that too. :\
Would be a good feature, and keep things clean.

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I was making some drum synths in FL3.4 and I got an idea. Because I was having trouble making synths and melody's for a song I thought it would be a kool thing to have here on NG where people could submit different beats, sounds, synths, anything! in mp3 form just like they have now BUT you also submit the .flp file for people to download and use in their music!

This could be incorporated to support many of the most popular music programs like Fruity Loops. I think this idea would be good for everyone. Audio artists could find and use sounds on newgrounds, and use them to create a new song to submit to NG and even flash artists could benefit from this because they could use the songs made or the beats themselves in their flash animations.

This would require new catagorys and programming from newgrounds. I'm not asking for this to be done. But I would like to see this happen. I think it would benefit many many people and be a good way to help new audio artists develope.

Just an idea I got while making a song on Fruity Loops. Tell me what you think.


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I think the audio portal should have sound effects as well music, that way you can find all your flash movie sound needs on one site.


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At 3/11/05 02:31 AM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: I think the audio portal should have sound effects as well music, that way you can find all your flash movie sound needs on one site.

I'm pretty sure there is.
Or was.


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At 3/11/05 02:38 AM, unowned wrote:
At 3/11/05 02:31 AM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: I think the audio portal should have sound effects as well music, that way you can find all your flash movie sound needs on one site.
I'm pretty sure there is.
Or was.

Im not sure if there was but there definatly isnt now, I've looked.


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Since Denvish locked my topic in the General forum, and told me to post it here. So that's what I'm doing now.
But I thought it would be better to have an overall vote, for what kinda lists that should be in.

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As you can see in the users list there are some things listed. But I think there could be some more lists.

Should there be more lists? Like:

- Top BBS posters?
- Top reviewers?
- A crew list, who are the BBS, review- moderators?
- Or something else?

I do think it would be nice to have more things listed. As many people can see, that there are many threads that are listing things. It would be nice to see something of them back in the new user list database, if they gonna improve it. :)

What do you think?

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Sounds like a eally good idea Zendra and something i would like to see implemented ! ,

However i do not agree with having a top posters list as public as on the users data base, it woud encourage spam, I don't think it would be too hard for James to do, but probably not at the top of his list of things to do, he's a busy guy. And i think the main people who like this type of lists (the stat whores) already know about ShittyKittys list and are happy with that for now, i know i am.


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Zendra when you say a crew list do mean just a list of all the various crews or are they ranked somehow?


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At 3/12/05 05:28 AM, Zendra wrote: As you can see in the users list there are some things listed. But I think there could be some more lists.

Should there be more lists? Like:

- Top BBS posters?

They never will do this one. Mostly because of the spam issue.

- Top reviewers?

I would not mind a top 50 reviewers vs the top 10.

- A crew list, who are the BBS, review- moderators?

There are a lot of crews and clubs, it not always eays to determine who are the active and inactive ones.
As far as listing review and audio moderators, that has been suggested before, I know I was for all that idea before.

- Or something else?

I would not mind if they listed top VP people.


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At 3/12/05 07:27 AM, Tom_s00 wrote: However i do not agree with having a top posters list as public as on the users data base, it woud encourage spam, I don't think it would be too hard for James to do, but probably not at the top of his list of things to do, he's a busy guy. And i think the main people who like this type of lists (the stat whores) already know about ShittyKittys list and are happy with that for now, i know i am.

Hmm, good point. It will courage people to spam. And that is a bad thing. Top BBS posters has been cancelled then.

At 3/12/05 07:54 AM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: Zendra when you say a crew list do mean just a list of all the various crews or are they ranked somehow?

No. The people who are working for NG. Like the admins, mods, affs, etc.

At 3/12/05 08:13 AM, ramagi wrote: I would not mind a top 50 reviewers vs the top 10.

That is a yes. :)

There are a lot of crews and clubs, it not always eays to determine who are the active and inactive ones.

I mean the NG crew. Not clubs and crews.

As far as listing review and audio moderators, that has been suggested before, I know I was for all that idea before.

So that is a yes again. I think it's just nice to see a list of people who are working/helping on Newgrounds.

I would not mind if they listed top VP people.

Ah, very good one. Would be a nice list too.

At 3/12/05 09:35 AM, Chrome- wrote: I think he means a "crew" list, the moderating crew, admin crew,ect.

Though maybe I'm wrong.

No, you're not. That's exactly what I mean. If I ment the clubs and crews, I would say clubs and crews. Lol. :)

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We already have the game or movie icons on the portal frontpage, but I'd like to see the icons in the entry listings as well. Example:

Here is the list of the past daily features. I don't know which of these are movies and which are games, but then I go to the games-only daily feature listing and I can't see the movies either. Sure, I could go back and forth and eventually figure out by process of elimination which are movies and which are games, but I think it would be reasonable to put the movie/game icon next to the title of the movie. It looks like there's enough space to the left of the ranking to fit the icons in.


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Ok liljim explain this to me. Why is it when I try to post my 4096 character review that it still says it is over the character limit? I'm really ticked off. I already had to shorten it and it still says it is over. I mean, I even compared with the character counter that is here on the BBS and the one of spellcheck.net, and both read 4096 characters. I don't know what's wrong with it all. I mean, everything checks out for it all. I even tried docking down to 4095 just to see if that would work and it didn't. Has it been lowered to some other number that I am oblivious about for whatever reason? Is it counting the 50 characters that I used for the "summary of my review" line? I don't understand this at all. It should work based on all information I have. I mean, I know it's counting spaces and enters and colons and such, but it's still giving this annoying error. What is wrong with the review? I have no clue why it is saying it's above the character limit when it is exactly at the character limit. Please, what's wrong with this and what can you do to fix this?


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Ehm...liljim, I think their may be some flaws in your new voting system. -_-;;

You gave this entry a 0, lowering its score from 5.0027 to 2.4186!
If this movie is blammed you will get a BLAM point!

How in the world can a flash be above a 5.0000? That doesn't make sense to me either.

If you can view logs of scores or something like that then this is the flash I voted on. :(


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At 3/12/05 08:27 PM, Inuzuka-Kiba wrote: You gave this entry a 0, lowering its score from 5.0027 to 2.4186!
If this movie is blammed you will get a BLAM point!

That's just internal rounding errors. Most programs that use variables such as "float" or "double" have a very hard time rounding a number at exactly _.0000...

Probably the same thing here.
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At 3/12/05 09:24 PM, RedCircle wrote: Probably the same thing here.

So you mean they can't put a cap on it or anything? That's odd. Oh well, it was just freaky. ;P

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At 3/12/05 08:27 PM, Inuzuka-Kiba wrote: Ehm...liljim, I think their may be some flaws in your new voting system. -_-;;

There's no new voting system, there was just a change in the number of digits after the decimal shown. It has most likely ALWAYS been 5.0025 and 5.0031 and whatever, it's just that when it was displayed with 2 digits, it would only show the 5.00 part.

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I was trying to search the BBS for a particular thread, I didn't remember the name of the thread but I remembered who created it. Unforunately the author was a regular and had thousands od posts so it would take forever to find the thread by searching through all his posts. I was woundering if it was at all possible to have it so that instead of viewing all of a users posts you could view just the threads that someone has created.

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At 3/12/05 10:36 PM, jercurpac wrote: I was trying to search the BBS for a particular thread, I didn't remember the name of the thread but I remembered who created it. Unforunately the author was a regular and had thousands od posts so it would take forever to find the thread by searching through all his posts. I was woundering if it was at all possible to have it so that instead of viewing all of a users posts you could view just the threads that someone has created.

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OK, I started another post in the general thread about stuff that belongs here, but I'll copy and paste the list on it. We should delete all those old topics that haven't gotten any new posts in like a year. They just take up space and limit the stuff we casn do in the BBS. Here's how it would help to delete them:

A.It helps us by giving us more topic choices. ALot of people don't know about those old topics and are too lazy to open up like 5 windows to search at least 3 times to make sure theor topic wasn't done before. No one remembers them anyway, so it should be OK to make them again

B. No one will bump them, and cause about 15 other guys to get banned for the first guys mistake. No one pays attention to the dates, and because some geniuses bump them, about 15 other users get banned because they thought it was a regular topic.

C.The mods don't have to worry. Mods will have a little less work on their hands, they won't have to ban all those users for one little mistake.

D.It saves Tom some bandwidth. It'll make the BBS run a little faster, it'll save TOm a bit on his site bill, and all he has to do is use his magic internet powers to delete the thread.

The BBS is in a bit of a deppresion now. Choices are limited and topics are boring. Tom could make an automatic feature that deletes old threads if they haven't gotten any replies in a set amount of time. This would make the BBS more fun, and more easy. I really hope this one gets noticed by you guys, it would really help us.


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