Global warming reaching critical?

[ReiperX]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/01/24/climate.change.ap/index.html

The latest from the Liberal Propoganda machine that we call CNN :)

Just wondering what you guys think about it.

[BeFell]

There is so little we know about climate change that some scientists have speculated that the greenhouse effect may have been putting off an ice age we're overdue for.

[SPQRI3]

I don't think it's taking effect. We had 3 feet of snow yesterday.

[Hedonist-Hammurabi]

At 1/24/05 04:18 PM, ReiperX wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/01/24/climate.change.ap/index.html

The latest from the Liberal Propoganda machine that we call CNN :)

Just wondering what you guys think about it.

CNN liberal propaganda? That's a laugh. Conservatives like to call it that because it's slightly less conservative than Fox News and is not outright conservative propaganda. So, CNN is liberal propaganda because it is SLIGHTLY less right-wing than Fox News. That's interesting.

Well, I think we'll adapt to global warming like we always do. Sure, a lot of people will die, and a lot of species will become extinct, but I have faith in the survival skills of the human race. In other words, W3 H4V3 M4D 1337 5URV!V41 5K!11Z!!!!!!!!1

[Skizor]

Darwinian mode: Those with genetic adaptations and variations best suited to a change in environment and condition will live on to produce more offspring, which will carry those adaptations and will be more able to survive in the given environment, and so on, and the species will change until adaptation becomes unnecesary to survive.

We'll all become lizardmen able to adapt to warmer climates, (kidding), no, but we'll have to adapt to overpopulation and environmental hazards at some point within the next 4 or so decades, because we're just using up too many resources and poisoning too much of the land, air and sea. Plants which can survive warmer climates will survive and adapt, and mammals (including humans) which can survive the warmer climates, the higher water levels, and the rearrangement of the foodchain will survive as well, those who can't because they're not fitted to do so will die out.

[tre-x]

I want global warming! Turn up the heat!

[FeatherSnake]

At 1/24/05 04:27 PM, SPQRI3 wrote: I don't think it's taking effect. We had 3 feet of snow yesterday.

It is taking effect. The winter where I live is already beginning to change. Only a few years ago I remember me going ice-fishing and playing in the snow most of the winter. But the last couple of years there has been only a few weeks with thick enough ice to go fishing on, and this year it's almost been no snow, although we are in the last part of January, which is supposed to be the coldest month.

Although the snow-level have been high a few times the last couple of years, it has rarely lasted long.

I know this may only be a coincidence, but I don't belive so, taking in account how much reduced some of the ice caps in Norway is, and seeing how the climate have become so extreme in some parts of the world.

[BigBlueBalls]

Why is it that Americans can completely deny, what mainstream science states, by just declaring it "Liberal Propoganda"?

No really, I think the damaging effects of "Fox News" is about as bad as global warming itself. All you have to do is convince the American public anything that conflicts with American corporate interests, is just "Liberal Propaganda". Which explains the reason why Americans are the only ones I ever see denying the existence of global warming or trying to pass it off as a good thing in some way.

[ReiperX]

At 1/25/05 03:55 PM, BigBlueBalls wrote: Why is it that Americans can completely deny, what mainstream science states, by just declaring it "Liberal Propoganda"?

They thought the invasion of Iraq was good dispite what most of the world thought, they deny global warming dispite what I would say a majority of scientists think. A lot of the US government only hears what it wants to hear. President Bush for example ignored some FBI/CIA warning that a lot of his information may be wrong, and went ahead with the invasion anyways.

[Tombulgius]

I agree with the opinion that global warming is happening and that we can defend ourselves against it, if we prepare with the right technologies.

I won't say Bush is central to this, but if he were in any way competent, we would already have quite an extensive plan in motion for this.

[The-King-of-Wolves]

When Tuvala sinks under the ocean that will be our red flag.

[Rob-Moseley]

It's not unjust to be worried about global warming, but after reading Michael Chriton's (sp?) State of Fear, signs seem to point to at best inconclusive, and at worst false.

[Mr-Silv3r]

At 1/26/05 04:03 AM, Rob_Moseley wrote: It's not unjust to be worried about global warming, but after reading Michael Chriton's (sp?) State of Fear, signs seem to point to at best inconclusive, and at worst false.

I'd say at best overrated, and at worst false. Good read though, and suprisingly good resources.

[Reezzy-Frizez]

Global warming is impedning, we have to take actions to reduce and let the ozone heal,

I have a major question to bring up and i would like some feedback on it.

If there is so much pollution in the world and there is a impending global warming that will hit our planet in some due time, why is no one doing anything about it:

Countries spend billions on war, and military,
Countries spent a couple billion dollars on the recent Asia Tsunami
these are a couple examples of where money has been going, and you never hear anything about new environmental ways to improve the conditons of our planet,

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of activists out there, many may be not for profit organizations that could use more money to reach their objectives or maybe there are not just enough people to voice out a opinion
We have people that recycle, waste plants and so forth, but are we really putting that much towards the most impending of all to come?

[1Shot-Paddy]

I don't want to fight with anyone here but global warming is just a theory and won't happen. No point in believing it because whether it happens or not you can't do anything about it. In 20 years you'll look back and realize how stupid you were for believing that, and many other things.

[MembrsOfBushWhackers]

At 1/26/05 02:56 PM, 1Shot-Paddy wrote: I don't want to fight with anyone here but global warming is just a theory and won't happen. No point in believing it because whether it happens or not you can't do anything about it. In 20 years you'll look back and realize how stupid you were for believing that, and many other things.

O, ok, well I guess then I'll ignore every credible scientist on earth, and believe the opinion of this random kid on the internet.

[ReiperX]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/01/27/climate.temps.reut/index.html

Just a quick update on this. Seems like Greenhouse gases could have a bigger impact than previously thought.

[Tombulgius]

Whether it's happening or not, preparing is absolutely necessary. We KNOW we are polluting. We just don't know it's full effects, other than "bad".

[ReiperX]

At 1/27/05 04:12 PM, Tombulgius wrote: Whether it's happening or not, preparing is absolutely necessary. We KNOW we are polluting. We just don't know it's full effects, other than "bad".

Sad thing is that many people, and certain governments do not want to do anything to improve the situation by cutting down emissions, and many people just want to ignore it thinking it won't happen in their life time.

It may not, but kinda sucks for their kids.

[RedSkunk]

Global warming is complete bollocks. If you liberals could can it with your anthropocentric world view for two seconds, you'd realize that humanity has only been on the world for a mere instant. To say that we understand complex geothermic processes is laughable, to say that we're affecting them is ridiculous.

[Draconias]

Global warming is interesting . . . We know for a fact (indisputable) that the world is warming up on average. However, we do NOT know if we have anything at all to with it, whether it is a natural warming cycle (the world has these, if you didnt know), orwhether we can even affect the planet at all. But we DO know that quite a few pro-environment/anti-human groups are manipulating the information just like politicians do to advance their political agenda. Why do you think that committee suggested massive green spending increase if not the fact that they supported the green spending in the first place? We have 0 evidence telling us conclusively that WE caused it. We only have evidence to tell us that it is happening.

[BigBlueBalls]

At 1/27/05 04:18 PM, red_skunk wrote: Global warming is complete bollocks. If you liberals could can it with your anthropocentric world view for two seconds, you'd realize that humanity has only been on the world for a mere instant. To say that we understand complex geothermic processes is laughable, to say that we're affecting them is ridiculous.

Case in point. You hardly ever hear any crap like this being repeated from anyone, except people from the U.S. Isn't a coincidence that the U.S. is also known to be the biggest consumer of oil in the world? Heh no wonder they're the ones trying so hard to defend their weak points that Global Warming doesn't exist. These facts are a threat to their biggest industry. I'm surprised that your government has done such a good job duping such a large number of Americans into believing the rest of the world, including most promninant scientists, are all evil liberals who make up lies like Global Warming. I have to hand it to your government, they sure do know how to brainwash their population into believing whatever they want. If they want you to believe that Iraq = 9/11, then they do that. If they want you to believe that all the facts are wrong, that prove global warming exists and is caused by man, then they'll do that.

Global Warming is pretty much accepted as fact around the world, except of course in oil hungry U.S. Sometimes I wonder what kind of information they are feeding you.

Maybe this might help understand the American mindset and how your government controls information...

Bush Stifles Global Warming Evidence
http://www.space.com/news/bush_warming_041027.html

[RedSkunk]

At 1/28/05 01:39 AM, BigBlueBalls wrote: Global Warming is pretty much accepted as fact around the world, except of course in oil hungry U.S. Sometimes I wonder what kind of information they are feeding you.

Whether it's "accepted as fact" is irrelevent. Just because people believe it doesn't make it true. Or do you think there are WMDs in Iraq because Americans beleive it to be so?

There is no proof that global warming is a man-made phenomena. All of your whining to the contrary won't change that.

[Tombulgius]

Someone made a point that the Earth is warming up on average, and it doesn't necessarily mean we did it. That could be true. But still, if it's getting warmer, then we've still got a problem.

A large cause of these opinions and conclusions from scientists is the gap in the ozone; we also know that is happening, though we may or may not be involved.

List of facts:
The Ozone is getting smaller.(for better or for worse)
The world is getting hotter.(for better or for worse)

That's about where the facts stop and the opinions begin.

So I'll stop here.

[RedSkunk]

At 1/28/05 03:09 PM, Tombulgius wrote: A large cause of these opinions and conclusions from scientists is the gap in the ozone; we also know that is happening, though we may or may not be involved.

We solved the hole in the ozone problem by banning CFCs. If you don't know what you're talking about, then don't bother posting.

List of facts:
The Ozone is getting smaller.(for better or for worse)
That's about where the facts stop and the opinions begin.

You wish.

[Tombulgius]

OK then. I hope the ozone really does repair itself.
I also hope we aren't effecting the atmosphere......It's just that alot of evidence points the other way. I tend to believe that we aren't being enough of a problem to the world for things like this to happen; unfortunately, it looks like we're in for something bad.