When you say 'world w/o guns'...?

[tre-x]

...Do you really mean "world without violence?"

[JoS]

At 1/23/05 12:40 AM, -trex- wrote: ...Do you really mean "world without violence?"

No because then we would say a world without violence. Thats a silly question.

[Reverend-Kyle]

At 1/23/05 12:43 AM, JusticeofSarcasm wrote:

At 1/23/05 12:40 AM, -trex- wrote: ...Do you really mean "world without violence?"

No because then we would say a world without violence. Thats a silly question.

Really, now. We can still create violence with other objects.

[bombkangaroo]

Like crossbows, they're not as efficient as guns, but they're almost completely silent.

[Reverend-Kyle]

At 1/23/05 12:50 PM, bombkangaroo wrote: Like crossbows, they're not as efficient as guns, but they're almost completely silent.

And you can attach disgusting, pornographic images to the bows. ;D

[specimen56]

At 1/23/05 11:54 AM, ohp-kyle wrote: Really, now. We can still create violence with other objects.

Thats a pure and blatent lie! Guns are the source of all evil in this world! W must melt them down and turn them into a giant metalic rainbow going around the whole of the world, so that we may once again frolock naked in the sand dunes and the forests...

[MembrsOfBushWhackers]

Guns don't kill people, bullets do.

"I think all bullest should cost 5000 dollars" -Chris Rock

[Ebolarama]

At 1/23/05 12:40 AM, -trex- wrote: ...Do you really mean "world without violence?"

Ever hear of swords and knives?
Or maybe.. Just maybe.. fists and feet?

[Ravens-Grin]

At 1/23/05 03:57 PM, MembrsOfBushWhackers wrote: "I think all bullest should cost 5000 dollars" -Chris Rock

"Because then there wouldn't be no innocent bystanders"

[Proteas]

At 1/23/05 12:50 PM, bombkangaroo wrote: Like crossbows, they're not as efficient as guns, but they're almost completely silent.

I'm amazed more murders aren't committed with those. An arrow fired from a crossbow (or just a hunting bow) is far more powerful than any round fired from a handgun. That's why bowhunting is so popular for larger game.

But alas, people would rather ban the firearms that are "high capacity killing machines" than go after weapons that are actually banned under the Geneva Convention for use during war time.... like hunting firearms.

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(before anybody says "you can't hunt with a crossbow," I would like to say that in the state of Tennessee you can hunt with a crossbow if you have a valid medical condition that prevents you from being able to hunt with a traditional hunting bow.)

[The-Bi99man]

At 1/23/05 03:57 PM, MembrsOfBushWhackers wrote: Guns don't kill people, bullets do.

This reminds me of a great Far Side comic I read. It was an alien in his flying saucer or whatever and he had a bumber sticker that said, "Ray guns don't vaporize zorbonians, zorbonians vaporize zorbonians".

Anyway, I completely agree. If you wan't to put an end to violence, don't go after the guns. Go after the people who use the guns to kill people. If there was no guns, there would still be violence. It would just be much more brutal and murders would probably be more painful. Just think about it, I think getting beat to death with baseball bats and fists would probably hurt more than a bullet in the brain.

[MembrsOfBushWhackers]

But alas, people would rather ban the firearms that are "high capacity killing machines" than go after weapons that are actually banned under the Geneva Convention for use during war time.... like hunting firearms.

That's because, as you said, people don't use bow and errows to kill people. If 10,000+ people were killed a year by bow and arrows, I'm sure people would want restrictions on those.

Anyway, I completely agree. If you wan't to put an end to violence, don't go after the guns. Go after the people who use the guns to kill people. If there was no guns, there would still be violence. It would just be much more brutal and murders would probably be more painful. Just think about it, I think getting beat to death with baseball bats and fists would probably hurt more than a bullet in the brain.

Are you actually arguing people should easily be able to have guns so it's easier for the murderers to murder?

You should have to pass a test to get a gun, and wait a week to get it. Innocent bystanders are killed by gun violence, and people are accidentally killed by guns. When you stab someone to death its not an accident, with guns you could get drunk shoot some shots in the air and kill any random person, kids find guns and accidentally kill their siblings, there are drive-bys where you can just shoot a 100 bullets, and have no idea who your killing.

[Proteas]

At 1/23/05 08:12 PM, The_Bi99man wrote: If there was no guns, there would still be violence. It would just be much more brutal and murders would probably be more painful.

Case in point...

"And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. " Genesis 4:8

According to some texts, Cain crushed Abel's skull between two rocks. In others, Abel was stabbed to death with a farming implement.

Violence is in our nature, removing things that can help us commit violent acts won't do anything to stop them altogether. Why? Because when it comes down to it you can still strangle or beat someone to death with your bare hands.

(and now I'm going to sit back and be flamed for posting scripture, poor me)

[FLCLmonkey]

At 1/23/05 03:57 PM, MembrsOfBushWhackers wrote:

"I think all bullest should cost 5000 dollars" -Chris Rock

So Chris Rock is saying that we should stop the violence in the ghetto and suburbs and increase it in Malibu and Beverly Hills.

[Maus]

No, I really mean a world with armless people.

[Memorize]

* guns are banned*
*people all over cheering because they ended violence*

News Alert!: some kid just got knocked the fuck out with a baseball bat!
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[Jbravo27]

how would hunters hunt without guns then

[Maus]

At 1/24/05 12:09 AM, Pyro88 wrote: how would hunters hunt without guns then

Crossbows. Or bows and arrows. Bear traps. IMAGINATION, IT KNOWS NO BOUNDS!!!!

I can go an-y-wheeeeeerrrrrre
Just take a look
Pick up a book

The Reading Rainbowwwwww

[Conflicted]

At 1/23/05 03:57 PM, MembrsOfBushWhackers wrote: Guns don't kill people, bullets do.

"I think all bullest should cost 5000 dollars" -Chris Rock

Guns don't kill people.
People kill people.

[LazyDrunk]

At 1/24/05 12:13 AM, Maus wrote:

At 1/24/05 12:09 AM, Pyro88 wrote: how would hunters hunt without guns then

Crossbows. Or bows and arrows. Bear traps. IMAGINATION, IT KNOWS NO BOUNDS!!!!

Or some strange invention where a mysterious powder propels a round ball through a metal tube at marvelous velocities. I wonder who thunk that one up to begin with. . . SATAN, perhaps?

[Maus]

At 1/24/05 10:15 AM, -LazyDrunk- wrote: Or some strange invention where a mysterious powder propels a round ball through a metal tube at marvelous velocities. I wonder who thunk that one up to begin with. . . SATAN, perhaps?

Either you didn't get it, or you suck really hard at sarcasm.

[LazyDrunk]

At 1/24/05 10:25 AM, Maus wrote:

At 1/24/05 10:15 AM, -LazyDrunk- wrote: Or some strange invention where a mysterious powder propels a round ball through a metal tube at marvelous velocities. I wonder who thunk that one up to begin with. . . SATAN, perhaps?

Either you didn't get it, or you suck really hard at sarcasm.

What's your best guess? I'll refrain from killing the Easter bunny this year if you get it right.

[Maus]

I already ate the Easter Bunny. Rather gamey.

[CodeRedClock]

a world w/o guns or voilence would be boring and funless