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At 3/28/05 02:36 PM, ZeroAsALimit wrote:

At 3/27/05 06:38 PM, -Manic- wrote: How much was it,if you don't mind me asking,.

About 38 pounds. You wont have to pay, I am sure of it. :)

I should bloody well hope not. My Family have done much for this country so we shouldn't be forced to pay for such menial thigns liek Dentist bills!

At 3/28/05 02:26 PM, Coop83 wrote: My word, that sounds like a marvelous idea! Tell me more about it, over a glass of Brandy, Manic.

Of course. Simmons pour a glass of Brandy for Coop. Now then my plans were that we should just sit here in front of the fire and discuss the world events and sip brandy. Good plan don't you think? I'm rather pleased I came up with it.

Oh on a different note the BNP are on the rampage the blighters tried to recruit me. Parents were out and they knocked on me door asking me to donate money to their campaign. Naturally one laughe din their face and sent them packing. Ones hounds got lots of excercise that dayi must say.

At 3/30/05 01:28 PM, -Manic- wrote:

At 3/28/05 02:26 PM, Coop83 wrote: My word, that sounds like a marvelous idea! Tell me more about it, over a glass of Brandy, Manic.

Of course. Simmons pour a glass of Brandy for Coop. Now then my plans were that we should just sit here in front of the fire and discuss the world events and sip brandy. Good plan don't you think? I'm rather pleased I came up with it.

How interesting *sips brandy*

Oh on a different note the BNP are on the rampage the blighters tried to recruit me. Parents were out and they knocked on me door asking me to donate money to their campaign. Naturally one laughe din their face and sent them packing. Ones hounds got lots of excercise that dayi must say.

Well, they do embody the true values of the British Empire: Sexist, Racist, Minds stuck in the 1870s. Which is one of the reasons one prefers to refer to oneself as English (No offence intended to any Scots, Irish or Welsh. (Well, maybe the Welsh, a little)

In the Football tonight, England remain on course for a berth in the 2006 World Cup finals in Germany, beating Azerbaijan 2-0. Steven Gerrard and David Beckham got the goals. We remain a point ahead of Poland, who won 1-0 against Wales.

Sorry to change the subject... But one has the blues... As Easter holidays draws ever closer to an end... and one must return to that Hive of stupidity... know as 'High School'...

At 3/30/05 04:31 PM, LordGoulden wrote: Sorry to change the subject... But one has the blues... As Easter holidays draws ever closer to an end... and one must return to that Hive of stupidity... know as 'High School'...

Well, at least you get a holiday. One must toil at one's workplace for all but 4 weeks of the year. Don't knock it, you will only get one better chance to do very little: University! When you reach the big wide world, you will find it isn't all fun and games.

At 3/30/05 04:49 PM, Coop83 wrote: Well, at least you get a holiday. One must toil at one's workplace for all but 4 weeks of the year. Don't knock it, you will only get one better chance to do very little: University! When you reach the big wide world, you will find it isn't all fun and games.

Good God! Is that all yuo get old boy? When one inhabits number 10 I shall endeavour to get you more holiday time........or at leats a later startong time. One be;lieves 9 to 5 is stupid i think 12-7 is better as it lets people get proper sleep and it still gets roughly the same amount of work done.

At 3/31/05 03:40 PM, -Manic- wrote: Good God! Is that all yuo get old boy? When one inhabits number 10 I shall endeavour to get you more holiday time

Get in the queue, One believes I was there first

At 4/1/05 03:58 AM, Coop83 wrote: Get in the queue, One believes I was there first

Hold on chaps first of all we need a get that tramp out of it. How did that fool get in......I mean apart from no one else being up for the vote that could do the job.

At 4/1/05 03:58 AM, Coop83 wrote: Get in the queue, One believes I was there first

We shall see Coop. we shall see. depending on your political allegiances one will be quit ehappy to step down.....provided of course you are not a labour or Conservative supporter. If you are a libDem man then one will quite happily step aside for you. just make sure I get to be Chancellor of the exchequer or whatever post it is that Gordon brown holds.

At 3/30/05 03:58 PM, Coop83 wrote:

In the Football tonight, England remain on course for a berth in the 2006 World Cup finals in Germany, beating Azerbaijan 2-0. Steven Gerrard and David Beckham got the goals. We remain a point ahead of Poland, who won 1-0 against Wales.

If i must say so myself, that was a dismal match, one did not feel proud to be english. I do not know what the devil Michael Owen was up to. Perhaps he has gone a bit crazy whilst being in sunny Spain. Wouldn't you agree?

At 4/1/05 11:38 AM, xsmorrisx wrote: If i must say so myself, that was a dismal match, one did not feel proud to be english. I do not know what the devil Michael Owen was up to. Perhaps he has gone a bit crazy whilst being in sunny Spain. Wouldn't you agree?

One has no idea what you are reffering to as one did not watch the match. What ar eyou on about old boy?

At 4/1/05 10:12 AM, -Manic- wrote:

At 4/1/05 03:58 AM, Coop83 wrote: Get in the queue, One believes I was there first

We shall see Coop. we shall see. depending on your political allegiances one will be quit ehappy to step down.....provided of course you are not a labour or Conservative supporter. If you are a libDem man then one will quite happily step aside for you. just make sure I get to be Chancellor of the exchequer or whatever post it is that Gordon brown holds.

One is a member of the Independant Tea Party. We strive to cut ties with Europe, strengthen the pound even more and end world poverty. We have other policies, but one can't think of them at the moment.

At 4/1/05 11:38 AM, xsmorrisx wrote: If i must say so myself, that was a dismal match, one did not feel proud to be english. I do not know what the devil Michael Owen was up to. Perhaps he has gone a bit crazy whilst being in sunny Spain. Wouldn't you agree?

At the end of the day it does not matter weather we won 1-0, 2-0 or 10-0. The point is that we won. We can't get any more points for winning 10-0 that we get for winning 2-0, so let's just get on with it and book ourselves a place in Germany.

At 4/1/05 04:47 PM, Coop83 wrote: At the end of the day it does not matter weather we won 1-0, 2-0 or 10-0. The point is that we won. We can't get any more points for winning 10-0 that we get for winning 2-0, so let's just get on with it and book ourselves a place in Germany.

Indeed, its not the taking part, but the beating the johnny forgeiners that counts.
What was all this about the Tea Party again. Does this mean the party is starting back up just in time for the general?

At 4/1/05 04:47 PM, Coop83 wrote: One is a member of the Independant Tea Party. We strive to cut ties with Europe, strengthen the pound even more and end world poverty. We have other policies, but one can't think of them at the moment.

If you are an independent then hwo can you be part of a party? And if you are independent then you can't become P.M. as its the party with the majority ( I think) that gets the residency at number 10.

besides one thinks being part of Europe is a good thing personally. The bits about the pound getting stronger and ending poverty I like the sound of.

At 4/3/05 02:40 PM, -Manic- wrote: If you are an independent then hwo can you be part of a party? And if you are independent then you can't become P.M. as its the party with the majority ( I think) that gets the residency at number 10.

By 'Independant Party', one means a party which runs seperately from the Big Three (Labour, Tory and Lib Dem) Our views are the best bits from all of them, plus a few of our own.

besides one thinks being part of Europe is a good thing personally. The bits about the pound getting stronger and ending poverty I like the sound of.

Being a part of Europe, as far as we are on the same continent, so freedom of movement rules, etc. However, being governed by Brussells, one wants no part of thankyouverymuch.

Have any of you dear chaps been to The Slimelight club in Islington ?

I am considering paying it a visit when I have a job.

At 4/3/05 03:18 PM, Coop83 wrote: By 'Independant Party', one means a party which runs seperately from the Big Three (Labour, Tory and Lib Dem) Our views are the best bits from all of them, plus a few of our own.

ah I see. Best of luck old bean. you'll be needing it one thinks. Unless you have a secret plan to win the election that is?

Being a part of Europe, as far as we are on the same continent, so freedom of movement rules, etc. However, being governed by Brussells, one wants no part of thankyouverymuch.

why? it isn't that bad really. It may mean we eventually become the United states of Europe but that would create a stronger Europe and would ensure that if anyone in europe got invaded then they would definetley get help form everyone else.

I saw the second last episode of Upstairs, Downstairs today. It was very touching, as I am fond of selfless, tragic gentlemen as the main characters (How I would have it, they would not be tragic, but it is so often the case). I managed to retain my stiff upper lip, I never even formed a solitary tear.

I'm at a loss on who I shall vote for. I'm a Nihilist (A Nihilist gentleman ?!). People always say "So you wont vote then.", but different parties will give us greater degrees of personal freedom, and as a Nihilist, I feel I must oppose Nihilism.

At 4/3/05 03:24 PM, -Manic- wrote: why? it isn't that bad really. It may mean we eventually become the United states of Europe but that would create a stronger Europe and would ensure that if anyone in europe got invaded then they would definetley get help form everyone else.

You obviously haven't seen it from one's point of view. If we become part of the USE (United States of Europe), we will have to put up with certain indignities:

1) Loss of our national identity. I don't want to be classed as a European, because most Europeans are inferior to us. There are a few, who could actually be equals to us. I am English, Dammit!

2) On a similar theme, one does not want to be ruled by a Frenchman, they would have everyone learn that exceptioanlly boring language, with no use whatsoever.

3) One does not want to use foreign money. One is quite happywith the Pound and how strong it is. The Euro is severely flawed at the moment and shows no sign of recovery in the near future. (Much like the Dollar)

4) I am in favour of a Monarchist Democracy at the moment, for it works (In the most part) I would not like to see the government shifted from Westminster, to Brussels, where the Europeans, who have never set foot on England's green and furtile lands, decide what is right for us.

There are more, but I shall leave you with the first few for now.

At 4/5/05 06:23 AM, Coop83 wrote: 1) Loss of our national identity. I don't want to be classed as a European, because most Europeans are inferior to us. There are a few, who could actually be equals to us. I am English, Dammit!

That would be a small problem yes but if each of the countries became the equivalent of the states in America then we would still have an identity. But Americans already class us as Europeans and don't we class the as Americans? we don't refer to thos from Texas as Texans or those from New York as New yorkers do we?

2) On a similar theme, one does not want to be ruled by a Frenchman, they would have everyone learn that exceptioanlly boring language, with no use whatsoever.

I alreayd learn french so that doesn't bother me much but I can't dee a frenchman ruling over us really.

3) One does not want to use foreign money. One is quite happywith the Pound and how strong it is. The Euro is severely flawed at the moment and shows no sign of recovery in the near future. (Much like the Dollar)

Adapting the Euro could prove beneficary to the Country though. It'sd possible thta us changing to the Euro could decrease inflation which would be very good.

4) I am in favour of a Monarchist Democracy at the moment, for it works (In the most part) I would not like to see the government shifted from Westminster, to Brussels, where the Europeans, who have never set foot on England's green and furtile lands, decide what is right for us.

As I'm sure the French don't want a Brit to rule that hasn't been to France. That is just a matter of NAtional pride no country wants to be ruled by a foriegner.

All those concerns you brought up are legitimate but hey are all issues that could be dealt with besides if youre so Anti-Europe then go vote for UKIP.

But onto different news! The general election has been announced and there is a chance of a Hung Parliament. One thinks this election could be very interesting.

At 4/5/05 03:27 PM, -Manic- wrote: That would be a small problem yes but if each of the countries became the equivalent of the states in America then we would still have an identity. But Americans already class us as Europeans and don't we class the as Americans? we don't refer to thos from Texas as Texans or those from New York as New yorkers do we?

Yes, but that's different. Most of the states of America weren't countries in their own rights before the Union occured. They were just colonies from European settlers. I want no part of a united Europe, because it just doesn't feel English. (Most Americans refer to us as Brits, not Europeans)

I alreayd learn french so that doesn't bother me much but I can't dee a frenchman ruling over us really.

Open your eyes, Manic, it's closer than you think.

Adapting the Euro could prove beneficary to the Country though. It'sd possible thta us changing to the Euro could decrease inflation which would be very good.

I don't understand what you're getting at here. Inflation is at it's BEST possible rate in the past 50 years. Gordon Brown has done a great job as chancellor in the past 8 years. We don't need inflation to decrease, that would weaken the pound and destabilise the whole economy.

As I'm sure the French don't want a Brit to rule that hasn't been to France. That is just a matter of NAtional pride no country wants to be ruled by a foriegner.

I'm an Englishman who's been to France. I'm just as sure they don't want me ruling, either.

All those concerns you brought up are legitimate but hey are all issues that could be dealt with besides if youre so Anti-Europe then go vote for UKIP.

UKIP doesn't have ANY other policies except exit from Europe. I want to be able to use my vote to achieve something, but not to neglect other things, like services and taxes.

But onto different news! The general election has been announced and there is a chance of a Hung Parliament. One thinks this election could be very interesting.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Manic. There is NO CHANCE of a hung parliment. Labour will lose some of it's majority, the Tories might lose out their second place to the Lib Dems, but Labour will still win. This is due to the fact that there has not been an effective opposition party since 1997, when Labour stopped being the opposition and became the government.

At 4/5/05 03:44 PM, Coop83 wrote: (Most Americans refer to us as Brits, not Europeans)

I've been reffered to as A european before just because Im form a country in Europe and it came from an american.

Open your eyes, Manic, it's closer than you think.

My eyes are wide open. A French ruler isn't veyr likely even if we did join a USE situation as their is so much resentment between us Brits and France that the mere thought of us being ruled by them would set the british public to arms. And if it came to a vite then they would vote against the french candidate.

I don't understand what you're getting at here. Inflation is at it's BEST possible rate in the past 50 years. Gordon Brown has done a great job as chancellor in the past 8 years. We don't need inflation to decrease, that would weaken the pound and destabilise the whole economy.

Gordon has done a good job as chancellor but I still think their would be benefits for joining the Euro. Sheer conveiniencefor a start. Saves all the problems of having to swap currency over when we go to mainland Europe so it cuts out a lot of hassle. Granted yes their will be setbacks but their were setbacks when we went form the shilling system(dunno if that's the proper term) to the deciaml system we use now.

I'm an Englishman who's been to France. I'm just as sure they don't want me ruling, either.

Which was the point I was tyring to make( I think :S) It's all national pride and national pride isn't always a good thing. Look at the Americans. They are damn proud of their country to the point of idiocy at times.

UKIP doesn't have ANY other policies except exit from Europe. I want to be able to use my vote to achieve something, but not to neglect other things, like services and taxes.

I fidn the whole idea for UKIp rather ridicoulous and as soon as thye got Kilroy involved with them I stopped taking them seriously. I'll take your word that they don't have any real agenda.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Manic. There is NO CHANCE of a hung parliment. Labour will lose some of it's majority, the Tories might lose out their second place to the Lib Dems, but Labour will still win. This is due to the fact that there has not been an effective opposition party since 1997, when Labour stopped being the opposition and became the government.

I'm not saying its going to happen but their is a probability that it could happen. If the Tories gain an extra 7% then we have a hung parliament and ,according to some polls, the tories are more likely to be able to get that extra 7% as, due to the low turnout rates for elections, a larger percentage of the people that aren't sure if they are goin to vote yet are,apparently, more likely to vote Conservative than Labour and if those people do get off their asses and vote conservative then that makes the taks of getting that 7% increase slightly more realistic.

At 4/5/05 04:10 PM, -Manic- wrote: I've been reffered to as A european before just because Im form a country in Europe and it came from an american.

Okay, the point I was making is that I've met lots of Americans and they all called me a Brit, not a European. So you've met some yank, who called you European. Good for you.

My eyes are wide open. A French ruler isn't veyr likely even if we did join a USE situation as their is so much resentment between us Brits and France that the mere thought of us being ruled by them would set the british public to arms. And if it came to a vite then they would vote against the french candidate.

They already rotate the Presidency of the EU, so France get a stint ruling as do we. If they did the same for a USE, then we'd have to accept, because it's the way it works. I'm not happy with it.

Gordon has done a good job as chancellor but I still think their would be benefits for joining the Euro. Sheer conveiniencefor a start. Saves all the problems of having to swap currency over when we go to mainland Europe so it cuts out a lot of hassle. Granted yes their will be setbacks but their were setbacks when we went form the shilling system(dunno if that's the proper term) to the deciaml system we use now.

So that's what this is all about? You want to join the Euro, because you don't want to waste time changing currency when you go to the continent. That's a pretty lame argument.

Which was the point I was tyring to make( I think :S) It's all national pride and national pride isn't always a good thing. Look at the Americans. They are damn proud of their country to the point of idiocy at times.

I'm proud of being ENGLISH! I don't want to be absorbed into a society that tells me I can't be known as ENGLISH. I was born an Englishman, I want to die an Englishman too, not a European

I fidn the whole idea for UKIp rather ridicoulous and as soon as thye got Kilroy involved with them I stopped taking them seriously. I'll take your word that they don't have any real agenda.

Kilroy left. He formed his own party, Veritas. (Latin for truth) They have much the same agenda, but kilroy is in charge (UKIP wouldn't let him, so he left.)

I'm not saying its going to happen but their is a probability that it could happen. If the Tories gain an extra 7% then we have a hung parliament and ,according to some polls, the tories are more likely to be able to get that extra 7% as, due to the low turnout rates for elections, a larger percentage of the people that aren't sure if they are goin to vote yet are,apparently, more likely to vote Conservative than Labour and if those people do get off their asses and vote conservative then that makes the taks of getting that 7% increase slightly more realistic.

The tories are in a mild form of dissilusion. They squabble internally and the Lib Dems may just be able to steal their thunder. Three out of four polls on Sky News gave the election to Labour, but with hardly any majority. The tories TIED with labour in the fourth. I don't buy it, because you can prove anything with statistics and the polls are taken from only small ammounts of the populous. Nothing will be proven until May 6, whenn the results are announced.

At 4/6/05 11:25 AM, Coop83 wrote: Okay, the point I was making is that I've met lots of Americans and they all called me a Brit, not a European. So you've met some yank, who called you European. Good for you.

not just one yank. I've met a couple who called me European and not british. I dunno if it's just the yanks I met but if a few of them think that then what's to say that mroe don't? Considering the way Americans, form what i've seen, do tend to all think alike on certain isues.

They already rotate the Presidency of the EU, so France get a stint ruling as do we. If they did the same for a USE, then we'd have to accept, because it's the way it works. I'm not happy with it.

yeah but that's the EU. If they Created a USE then they would more or less be forced to hold democratic elections and if a French men was up for election you cna bet your bottom dollar that the British public would vote against him/her and if an entire Country ( or state I suppose considering we are discussing a USE situation) votes against them then they probably won't get in as No where will there be a whole a country that will completeley support him to balance out the votes that the british cast against him.

So that's what this is all about? You want to join the Euro, because you don't want to waste time changing currency when you go to the continent. That's a pretty lame argument.

No I'm not in favour of joining the Euro cause of that. I never siad I was in favour of the Euro. You said that you didn't want to use foreign currency and I just gace that as an example as to why maybe joining the Euro is a good thing. Honestly I'm not to fussed about the whole EURO issue. Yes the Euro isn't as strong as the pound at the moment but who cna tell what will happen in the future? For all we know we could have a stock market crash that could devalue the pound immensely and we don't know if the EURO will remain weak it can (and probably will) get stronger) it is a relativley new currency and it is having problems big deal. As I've said when we decimalised we suiffered larger rates of inflation (I'd call that a problem wouldn't you?)so maybe the EURO is having a problem like that? Maybe in a few years ,or however long, it will sort itself out. And who knows maybe a USE Situation is exactly what is needed to sort out the Euro as it would have more resources to back up its worth as it would have the combined wealth of the nations of Europe.

I'm proud of being ENGLISH! I don't want to be absorbed into a society that tells me I can't be known as ENGLISH. I was born an Englishman, I want to die an Englishman too, not a European

As Texans are proud of being Texans but we still call em all Yanks and that is really stupid really as the Yanks are form the North and Texas is in the south. But being English isn't just a case of being form England and living in England. Being English about (and this is very stereotypical but meh) drinking tea, playing cricket, watchign Tim Henman lose at Wimbledon, Supporting the underdog. if we did become " European" we would STILL be English.

Kilroy left. He formed his own party, Veritas. (Latin for truth)

Turth? The truth of what? What doe Veritas stand for asides form not being part of Europe I'd guess?

The tories are in a mild form of dissilusion. They squabble internally and the Lib Dems may just be able to steal their thunder. Three out of four polls on Sky News gave the election to Labour, but with hardly any majority. The tories TIED with labour in the fourth. I don't buy it, because you can prove anything with statistics and the polls are taken from only small ammounts of the populous. Nothing will be proven until May 6, whenn the results are announced.

Well those polls are different to the ones that were shwon when the Election was announced on the BBC. Those polls showed that labour had a 3% lead in 3 and the fourth showed that the tories were ahead by 7%. Either those are completley different polls to the oens I saw or they are updated ones that I haven't seen yet. And your'e right we can't trust the polls to predict the outcomes as they change and no one can truly predict human behaviour but Polls can be pretty accurate as often as they can be inaccurate.

At 4/6/05 01:45 PM, -Manic- wrote:

At 4/6/05 11:25 AM, Coop83 wrote: They already rotate the Presidency of the EU, so France get a stint ruling as do we. If they did the same for a USE, then we'd have to accept, because it's the way it works. I'm not happy with it.

yeah but that's the EU. If they Created a USE then they would more or less be forced to hold democratic elections and if a French men was up for election you cna bet your bottom dollar that the British public would vote against him/her and if an entire Country ( or state I suppose considering we are discussing a USE situation) votes against them then they probably won't get in as No where will there be a whole a country that will completeley support him to balance out the votes that the british cast against him.

Drawing yet another parallel with the American way, each state has its own elections. They then give a number of votes to a body of representatives, who vote for which party should win. Even if the hypothetical French candidate lost England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland, they could still win the election.

So that's what this is all about? You want to join the Euro, because you don't want to waste time changing currency when you go to the continent. That's a pretty lame argument.

No I'm not in favour of joining the Euro cause of that. I never siad I was in favour of the Euro. You said that you didn't want to use foreign currency and I just gace that as an example as to why maybe joining the Euro is a good thing. Honestly I'm not to fussed about the whole EURO issue. Yes the Euro isn't as strong as the pound at the moment but who cna tell what will happen in the future? For all we know we could have a stock market crash that could devalue the pound immensely and we don't know if the EURO will remain weak it can (and probably will) get stronger) it is a relativley new currency and it is having problems big deal. As I've said when we decimalised we suiffered larger rates of inflation (I'd call that a problem wouldn't you?)so maybe the EURO is having a problem like that? Maybe in a few years ,or however long, it will sort itself out. And who knows maybe a USE Situation is exactly what is needed to sort out the Euro as it would have more resources to back up its worth as it would have the combined wealth of the nations of Europe.

I know a lot more about money and the stock market than you appear to, Manic. If we have a stock market crash, this would cause ripples throughout the world (Namely the US, Europe and the Far East.) Their stock markets would follow suit and their currencies would also suffer. leaving us in a slightly weakened position, but still stronger overall.

I'm proud of being ENGLISH! I don't want to be absorbed into a society that tells me I can't be known as ENGLISH. I was born an Englishman, I want to die an Englishman too, not a European

As Texans are proud of being Texans but we still call em all Yanks and that is really stupid really as the Yanks are form the North and Texas is in the south. But being English isn't just a case of being form England and living in England. Being English about (and this is very stereotypical but meh) drinking tea, playing cricket, watchign Tim Henman lose at Wimbledon, Supporting the underdog. if we did become " European" we would STILL be English.

You may be being very steriotypical, but I do actually take part in all of those activities you listed. I see it as a matter of pride to sing the national anthem, bearing the cross of St George, setting myself aside from other europeans (Even the Welsh, Scots and Irish.) I could not honestly agree to joina union which would put an end to all of that, which my ancestors gave so much for.

The tories are in a mild form of dissilusion. They squabble internally and the Lib Dems may just be able to steal their thunder. Three out of four polls on Sky News gave the election to Labour, but with hardly any majority. The tories TIED with labour in the fourth. I don't buy it, because you can prove anything with statistics and the polls are taken from only small ammounts of the populous. Nothing will be proven until May 6, whenn the results are announced.

Well those polls are different to the ones that were shwon when the Election was announced on the BBC. Those polls showed that labour had a 3% lead in 3 and the fourth showed that the tories were ahead by 7%. Either those are completley different polls to the oens I saw or they are updated ones that I haven't seen yet. And your'e right we can't trust the polls to predict the outcomes as they change and no one can truly predict human behaviour but Polls can be pretty accurate as often as they can be inaccurate.

Well, in the case of all the arguments, we shall have to agree to disagree. Would you like a spot of tea? And perhaps a spot of Birthday cake, for it is one's anniversary today.

At 4/7/05 09:41 AM, Coop83 wrote: Well, in the case of all the arguments, we shall have to agree to disagree.

One was going to suggest this as no one is going to win any of these arguemnts.

Would you like a spot of tea? And perhaps a spot of Birthday cake, for it is one's anniversary today.

Is it? Well Happy Birthday old bean :P Had anything nice?

Btw are the BNP out in force where you are? Ive had 2 leaflets through my door since the election was announced and Ive had them knocking at my door again trying to recruit me for their campaign.

At 4/7/05 01:35 PM, -Manic- wrote:

At 4/7/05 09:41 AM, Coop83 wrote: Would you like a spot of tea? And perhaps a spot of Birthday cake, for it is one's anniversary today.

Is it? Well Happy Birthday old bean :P Had anything nice?

Thank you. One has had some money towards one's automobile repairs. A new catalytic converter, more road taxes and an MOT test. 'Tis the way of the world.

Btw are the BNP out in force where you are? Ive had 2 leaflets through my door since the election was announced and Ive had them knocking at my door again trying to recruit me for their campaign.

I would just keep calling them Nazis and shut the door on them. I would also tell them that Hitler is dead and they should quit trying to revive his doctrines. (Whilst they try to look up the words doctrine and revive in the dictionary, I shall get my gun.)

At 4/7/05 03:00 PM, Coop83 wrote: Thank you. One has had some money towards one's automobile repairs. A new catalytic converter, more road taxes and an MOT test. 'Tis the way of the world.

Oh dear. That is a rather nasty thing to happen on ones Birthday

I would just keep calling them Nazis and shut the door on them. I would also tell them that Hitler is dead and they should quit trying to revive his doctrines. (Whilst they try to look up the words doctrine and revive in the dictionary, I shall get my gun.)

One would grab ones gun but ones Mp (labour) is going on about stricter Gun Control in the newspaper so if one did draw oens weapon on these Nazi wannabes one feels the press one would recieve would be very negative and would damage ones reputation.

At 4/7/05 06:06 PM, -Manic- wrote:

At 4/7/05 03:00 PM, Coop83 wrote: Thank you. One has had some money towards one's automobile repairs. A new catalytic converter, more road taxes and an MOT test. 'Tis the way of the world.

Oh dear. That is a rather nasty thing to happen on ones Birthday

Well, one doesn't have to pay anything until the end of the month, so that's three weeks of financial freedom left.

I would just keep calling them Nazis and shut the door on them. I would also tell them that Hitler is dead and they should quit trying to revive his doctrines. (Whilst they try to look up the words doctrine and revive in the dictionary, I shall get my gun.)

One would grab ones gun but ones Mp (labour) is going on about stricter Gun Control in the newspaper so if one did draw oens weapon on these Nazi wannabes one feels the press one would recieve would be very negative and would damage ones reputation.

True. However, one thinks that the tighter gun control proposals are worthwhile. Of course you could think the radical way and if we don't control the gun laws, the ones who don't pay attention are the ones who die. However, since having looked at the good old USA, these theories have been disproved, so one shall be sticking with the original proposal.

Tis great that we can argue and debate so opposingly and still come to a polite and agreed end, with no bad after taste...

At 4/8/05 10:21 AM, Coop83 wrote: True. However, one thinks that the tighter gun control proposals are worthwhile. Of course you could think the radical way and if we don't control the gun laws, the ones who don't pay attention are the ones who die. However, since having looked at the good old USA, these theories have been disproved, so one shall be sticking with the original proposal.

Whislt I'm all in favour of tighter gun control Mr Burden(MP I was on aboout) is seemingly taking out his plan of actio onan inncoent man who makes his living by seling replica guns(Which don't actually work) and Knives. Gun Control is needed but when you take away someones livelihood when all they have done is obey the law as it currently stands it makes one rather annoyed especially as the man that is bearing the brunt of Burdens plan in question is a very decent chap who does obey the law. He doesn't sell anything to anyone under 18( i know casue I tired to buy a scorpion figure that was made out of metal which pincers were amd eout of blades and was refused) and sticks entirely to the rules yet he is being punished for doing it more or less. If Mr Burden wants to use an example of "un lawful weapon selling" or whatever then maybe he should use an example that is actually unlawful.

And It appear one is in a very god location to see politicians for one I'm ina amrgnal constituency but with Rover going under and the election fraud that happened in Brum one feels that there will be a large amount of politicinas around :-)