Hotmail owns you.

[Shrapnel]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18002.html

All your data (and biz plans) are belong to
Microsoft
By: Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Posted: 30/03/2001 at 15:07 GMT

With Microsoft's HailStorm .NET initiative hinging on the company's
very own PassPort service, you'd think Redmond would be bending
over backwards to stress the confidentially of user information.

Well, if that's the case, it hasn't started yet.

The current Passport Terms of Use agreement not only fails to
guarantee confidentially, but actually gives Microsoft and its
business partners the right to own your information, and do pretty
much what they want with it. That encompasses all your Hotmail and
MSN Messenger communications today.

As the Terms state:

"By posting messages, uploading files, inputting data,
submitting any feedback or suggestions, or engaging in any
other form of communication
with or through the Passport Web Site ... you are granting
Microsoft and its affiliated companies permission to:

1. Use, modify, copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display,
publicly perform, reproduce, publish, sublicense, create
derivative works from, transfer, or sell any such
communication.

2. Sublicense to third parties the unrestricted right to exercise
any of the foregoing rights granted with respect to the
communication.

3. Publish your name in connection with any such
communication."

And it doesn't stop there. Are you emailing a contact about a hot
idea or business plan of your own? Hand that over, too:

The foregoing grants shall include the right to exploit any
proprietary rights in such communication, including but not
limited to rights under copyright, trademark, service mark or
patent laws under any relevant jurisdiction. No compensation
will be paid with respect to Microsoft's use of the materials
contained within such communication.

After the eFront debacle, we're baffled why anyone would want to
trust confidential communications to any of the big IM services, let
alone MSN Messenger.

Apple originally launched its iDisk service with a similar landgrab,
but was quickly forced to retreat.

As reader Ken points out, 'All Your Data Belong To Us'. He's not
kidding. ®

The moral of the story?
Hotmail owns you.

-Shrapnel

[Pantomime-Horse]

I've known for the last 18 months that if you set up a hotmail account you are a target for every spammer there is, even if you select no special offers & to be unlisted, Being unlisted is Supposed to mean that your details aren't given to spammers, maybe the Spam companies are invading the server without Bill's knowledge & intercepting all new sign-ups.

[Slizor]

I don't like the wrd "modify"
And they only own the information you give them

[Shrapnel]

At 4/3/01 05:19 AM, Pantomime_Horse wrote: I've known for the last 18 months that if you set up a hotmail account you are a target for every spammer there is

Actually, I never get spam from my hotmail e-mail address.
No joke.
If I do get spam it's twice a year.
You get spam if you have a common name or letters with numbers in your e-mail.
People write scripts that mass e-mail random combinations of words...
If you make an account with a word that doesn't exist you're most likely not going to get spammed.

The issue I have a beef with is that anything you write in your e-mails, such as a documents for a new invention, hotmail has the right to take that information and use it for themselves.

[DrLavaGoddess]

Oh shit. Now I am scared. See even my hair stands on end

[Freakapotimus]

At 4/3/01 05:27 PM, Shrapnel wrote: Actually, I never get spam from my hotmail e-mail address.
No joke.
If I do get spam it's twice a year.
You get spam if you have a common name or letters with numbers in your e-mail.
People write scripts that mass e-mail random combinations of words...
If you make an account with a word that doesn't exist you're most likely not going to get spammed.

The issue I have a beef with is that anything you write in your e-mails, such as a documents for a new invention, hotmail has the right to take that information and use it for themselves.

That's bullshit... stupid Hotmail! Well, I don't think anyone can complain really, since it is in the agreement, which people should read, although many don't. At least the only thing I'm using my Hotmail account for is plans for Thursday night.

I used to get spam all the time in my old Hotmail account (woodysgirl - which I don't think works anymore) and although it wasn't that original wasn't exactly common either.

[D2Kvirus]

That's bullshit... stupid Hotmail! Well, I don't think anyone can complain really, since it is in the agreement, which people should read, although many don't. At least the only thing I'm using my Hotmail account for is plans for Thursday night.

I used to get spam all the time in my old Hotmail account (woodysgirl - which I don't think works anymore) and although it wasn't that original wasn't exactly common either.

The only real problem I get is they keep deleting the most important messages I get because the memory space limit is always about 3kb lower.

[nafs]

I'm not using hotmail to send site info and stuff anymore...

[Shrapnel]

At 4/5/01 09:37 AM, hannetz wrote: I'm not using hotmail to send site info and stuff anymore...

Well just not for "important" stuff.

^_^

[shorbe]

That's bullshit... stupid Hotmail! Well, I don't think anyone can complain really, since it is in the agreement, which people should read, although many don't.

That's the bottom line. Simple solution. Don't use hotmail. If you do, read the agreement.

People are stupid.

shorbe

[Slizor]

That's the bottom line. Simple solution. Don't use hotmail. If you do, read the agreement.

People are stupid.

Wrong matey, people are lazy

[Shrapnel]

At 4/7/01 12:58 PM, Bugger_all_99 wrote:

Wrong matey, people are lazy

Yep.
Very lazy.
And eat up free stuff.

[Bezman]

At 4/4/01 10:14 AM, Freakapotimus wrote:

At 4/3/01 05:27 PM, Shrapnel wrote: The issue I have a beef with is that anything you write in your e-mails, such as a documents for a new invention, hotmail has the right to take that information and use it for themselves.

That's bullshit... stupid Hotmail! Well, I don't think anyone can complain really, since it is in the agreement, which people should read, although many don't. At least the only thing I'm using my Hotmail account for is plans for Thursday night.

Yeah, yeah. I know all the stuff you lot've said about people being stupid and lazy and whatnot, but I do think that this is an implortant thing since it seems representative of Microsoft's evil manipulative ways, and their attempt to rule the world using whatever means possible.

I never knew about this before. I'll definitely be telling my friends about this.

[Bomb-Clock]

Quiet... they are listening for you now.